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New printer new profiles new problems

New printer new profiles new problems

2006-07-29 by Johnny Eades

Help folks,

I have a new Epson R2400 printer and am having great difficulty
creating a workable profile with PFP 1.1.1. I have followed the same
procedure as when creating profiles for the Epson 1280, but seem to
get very dark prints. The monitor is calibrated with the Spyder with
PFP as the profile creator. The prints from within PFP look ok, but
using the profile to print from Photoshop is where I am obviously
making my errors. I set up the printer in Photoshop to let Photoshop
determine colors. The workspace is Adobe RGB 1998. In the printer
driver settings I choose Quality option=Photo;
Advanced=colormanagement=ICM with Off(no color admustment), assuming
that means color management off for the printer and letting Photoshop
manage it.

Re: [colorvision_group] New printer new profiles new problems

2006-07-29 by CDTobie@aol.com

One possible cause for such a discrepency is that your proofing light 
is dimmer than your monitor, so it looks bright on screen, and darker 
in print. This is only an issue for LCDs, for the most part. Try the 
Ambient Light feature in Spyder2PRO v2.2. And be sure to use Custom 
Proof Setup in Photoshop. Are your prints too dark from PrintFIX PRO's 
Print Preview screen, or only from Photoshop?

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision, Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: jeades1@...
To: colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:14 PM
Subject: [colorvision_group] New printer  new profiles new problems

   Help folks,

I have a new Epson R2400 printer and am having great difficulty
creating a workable profile with PFP 1.1.1. I have followed the same
procedure as when creating profiles for the Epson 1280, but seem to
get very dark prints. The monitor is calibrated with the Spyder with
PFP as the profile creator. The prints from within PFP look ok, but
using the profile to print from Photoshop is where I am obviously
making my errors. I set up the printer in Photoshop to let Photoshop
determine colors. The workspace is Adobe RGB 1998. In the printer
driver settings I choose Quality option=Photo;
Advanced=colormanagement=ICM with Off(no color admustment), assuming
that means color management off for the printer and letting Photoshop
manage it.






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Re: New printer new profiles new problems

2006-07-30 by Johnny Eades

CD,
It's when I print from Photoshop with the created Printer Profile from
PFP. In photoshop the image is bright and clear, and on paper it is
much much darker with little shadow detail showing. For example in a
portrait that appears correct in photoshop, the skin tone is about 1-1
1/2 zones darker that it should be. The photoshop and printer settings
are described below in a proevious message that is quoted. Other than
a little different location in the driver for the 2400, it's pretty
much straightforward and very similar to the settings for the 1280.
The same image printed on the 2400 and the 1280 is very different with
the 2400 being much darker on the scale of values from dark shadow to
bright highlights.

Still confused as whether it is PFP, PShop, or me!!!!????



--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:
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>
> One possible cause for such a discrepency is that your proofing light 
> is dimmer than your monitor, so it looks bright on screen, and darker 
> in print. This is only an issue for LCDs, for the most part. Try the 
> Ambient Light feature in Spyder2PRO v2.2. And be sure to use Custom 
> Proof Setup in Photoshop. Are your prints too dark from PrintFIX PRO's 
> Print Preview screen, or only from Photoshop?
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> ColorVision, Inc.
> CDTobie@...
> www.colorvision.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeades1@...
> To: colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:14 PM
> Subject: [colorvision_group] New printer  new profiles new problems
> 
>    Help folks,
> 
> I have a new Epson R2400 printer and am having great difficulty
> creating a workable profile with PFP 1.1.1. I have followed the same
> procedure as when creating profiles for the Epson 1280, but seem to
> get very dark prints. The monitor is calibrated with the Spyder with
> PFP as the profile creator. The prints from within PFP look ok, but
> using the profile to print from Photoshop is where I am obviously
> making my errors. I set up the printer in Photoshop to let Photoshop
> determine colors. The workspace is Adobe RGB 1998. In the printer
> driver settings I choose Quality option=Photo;
> Advanced=colormanagement=ICM with Off(no color admustment), assuming
> that means color management off for the printer and letting Photoshop
> manage it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email 
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Re: New printer new profiles new problems

2006-08-01 by Johnny Eades

Well, who says miracles don't happen!! I made another printer profile
for Epson HW Matte paper and it worked just fine. Now that I have one
bullet in my gun, so to speak, I may go back and redo the one for HP
Brochure paper to see what I did wrong. I went to MIS inks and ordered
the refillable/filled carts and the inkset with the universal ink if I
print any glossy prints. Life is good again. It's such a shame I
allowed something as trivial as a computer/software/printer to disturb
me as much as it did. Well, it was a lesson telling me to retrain my
patience some more. Now to go to QTR and refine those profiles/curves
to create an ICC for the paper(s)/ink combinations. The search for the
Holy Grail of printing never ends. I'll get back to taking images when
the weather cools down a little in the sunny South.

Your happier friend in Photography,

Johnny

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "Johnny Eades" <jeades1@...>
wrote:
>
> CD,
> It's when I print from Photoshop with the created Printer Profile from
> PFP. In photoshop the image is bright and clear, and on paper it is
> much much darker with little shadow detail showing. For example in a
> portrait that appears correct in photoshop, the skin tone is about 1-1
> 1/2 zones darker that it should be. The photoshop and printer settings
> are described below in a proevious message that is quoted. Other than
> a little different location in the driver for the 2400, it's pretty
> much straightforward and very similar to the settings for the 1280.
> The same image printed on the 2400 and the 1280 is very different with
> the 2400 being much darker on the scale of values from dark shadow to
> bright highlights.
> 
> Still confused as whether it is PFP, PShop, or me!!!!????
> 
> 
> 
> --- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@ wrote:
> >
> > One possible cause for such a discrepency is that your proofing light 
> > is dimmer than your monitor, so it looks bright on screen, and darker 
> > in print. This is only an issue for LCDs, for the most part. Try the 
> > Ambient Light feature in Spyder2PRO v2.2. And be sure to use Custom 
> > Proof Setup in Photoshop. Are your prints too dark from PrintFIX
PRO's 
> > Print Preview screen, or only from Photoshop?
> > 
> > C. David Tobie
> > Product Technology Manager
> > ColorVision, Inc.
> > CDTobie@
> > www.colorvision.com
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jeades1@
> > To: colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:14 PM
> > Subject: [colorvision_group] New printer  new profiles new problems
> > 
> >    Help folks,
> > 
> > I have a new Epson R2400 printer and am having great difficulty
> > creating a workable profile with PFP 1.1.1. I have followed the same
> > procedure as when creating profiles for the Epson 1280, but seem to
> > get very dark prints. The monitor is calibrated with the Spyder with
> > PFP as the profile creator. The prints from within PFP look ok, but
> > using the profile to print from Photoshop is where I am obviously
> > making my errors. I set up the printer in Photoshop to let Photoshop
> > determine colors. The workspace is Adobe RGB 1998. In the printer
> > driver settings I choose Quality option=Photo;
> > Advanced=colormanagement=ICM with Off(no color admustment), assuming
> > that means color management off for the printer and letting Photoshop
> > manage it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
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