Dear David
Thank you very much for your support and comments.
First of all, I shall change now my workflow towards Tiff's (as I
would get an even worser result on the jpeg-route since I use Neat
Image as well sometimes).
Second, I shall try to find the correct printer setting to print
without driver color management. With this printer, it is - at least
for me - not the easiest thing to do. I think now that there is the
rub...
With kind regards
Rolf
--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:
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>
> In a message dated 12/8/06 5:26:15 AM, colorolf@... writes:
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>
> > Hi
> >
> > I would like to discuss the best workflow for color management on
a
> > step by step basis. May I start with a proposal?!
> >
> Okay...
> >
> > I am working with
> > - Nikon Capture (or any RAW-converter)
> > - Photoshop CS2
> > - ColorVision Spyder2Pro
> > - ColorVision PrintFixPro
> > - Canon iP8500
> > - Nikon D2x
> >
> All sound reasonable, as long as you aren't printing B&W images for
show or
> sale...
> >
> > Step 1
> > Color calibration of the computer screen with ColorVision
Spyder2Pro;
> > ADOBE gamma deactivated in the start-up menu (Windows XP); Result:
> > Screen shows colors perfectly calibrated
> >
> Okay...
> >
> > Step 2
> > Define color space of the fotographs to be taken (Adobe RGB);
shoot
> > RAW.
> >
> Good good choices...
> >
> > Step 3
> > Transfer fotographs from the camera to the computer; verify that
> > information of the selected colorprofile (step 2) remains
unchanged.
> >
> Okay...
> >
> > Step 4 (based on Nikon Capture)
> > Make the basic picture adjustements (like white balance);
Optional:
> > Change colorspace; Save final files as jpeg (within the preferred
> > colorspace).
> >
> Sad choice to limit to low bit jepgs at this point; any further
changes will
> require rejpegging, which lowers quality even further. I'd save
High Bit
> Tiffs, and live with the space costs...
> >
> > Step 5
> > Calibrate your printer/paper-combination with PrintFixPro;
> >
> Right...
> >
> > Step 6
> > Open jepg-files (step 4) in Photoshop CS2; make the final
> > adjustements.
> >
> See above <G>...
> >
> > Step 7
> > (1) In Photoshop, define the printer profile from step 5 to the
> > picture to view it on screen in the colors of the printer output.
> >
> Soft Proof using Photoshop's Custom Proof Setup, Yes...
> >
> > (2) Make the final adjustements.
> >
> Further adjustments to a Jpeg... such a waste!
> >
> > (3) Print by letting Photoshop determine the color management of
the
> > printer and choose again the printer profile (step 5) as the
relevant
> > color management.
> >
> Correct...
> >
> > (4) Verify that the Canon software chooses not automatically a
> > default color profile (manuell / deactivated Canon-ICM-profiles of
> > the printer)
> >
> This isn't the normal way to print without driver color management.
Usually
> there is a setting called "no color adjustment" or "ICM > None"
that is used
> for this purpose. Just deactivating the default profiles is not the
same as
> turning of color adjustment in the driver...
> >
> > (5) Print
> >
> > I think most of you will agree on step 1 to 6.
> >
> Other than the Jpeg choice, yes...
>
> > As far as I can see, step 7 makes us most of the problems.
> >
> Only if you do it wrong, or have a printer that makes it
difficult...
>
> > Is thisÂ
> > workflow really the "king's road"? I am asking that because there
are
> > many ways to create systematic errors â" and I am still not
convinced
> > by the results I am getting by this procedure.
> >
> I'm not convinced that your proceedure is even correct...
>
> By the way, great workflow analysis! Not many people are willing to
take the
> time to present a full case, with most of the info already in place
in their
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> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> ColorVision Business Unit
> Datacolor Inc.
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