Recomendations for optimum room lighting when calibrating moniter
2007-03-18 by tech4x5
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2007-03-18 by tech4x5
I am designing a new workroom where I will place my computer and moniter. I use Spyder Pro 2.2 to calibrate my moniter and PrintFix Pro 2.1 for my profiles. Any suggestions on preferences for overhead and/or room lighting which would help in the most reproducible and easy calibration. At this point in time, I could put in pretty much what I want. Flouresecent vs incandescent, color temp, etc. Thanks. Matthew Kraus
2007-03-19 by pjb74nz
I have set up 2 offices in 2 cities in New Zealand with silver blinds to keep out the external light and installed 5000 kelvin temp lights. That way I can work day or night without too much variations. It works for me and I am get fairly consistent prints. Both offices are also in the bottom storey of my 2 houses and the temperature is fairly constant since they both have concrete walls. I think that helps with any paper problems. Peter Banks NZ --- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "tech4x5" <mkraus1044@...> wrote: > > I am designing a new workroom where I will place my computer and > moniter. I use Spyder Pro 2.2 to calibrate my moniter and PrintFix Pro > 2.1 for my profiles. Any suggestions on preferences for overhead > and/or room lighting which would help in the most reproducible and easy > calibration. At this point in time, I could put in pretty much what I
> want. Flouresecent vs incandescent, color temp, etc. > > Thanks. > > Matthew Kraus >
2007-03-19 by CDTobie@aol.com
2007-03-19 by tech4x5
Thanks for the thoughtful and detailed response. Just want to make sure I understand how to measure the candelas of my moniter. I think I go to tools/coloritmeter and then take a reading. Am I correct that the CIE xyY is the candela value? If not how do I find it? Mine measures 122. Does that mean that's as bright as my moniter goes? Please remind me how to measure the ambient light? --- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/18/07 3:52:05 PM, mkraus1044@... writes: > > > > I am designing a new workroom where I will place my computer and > > moniter. I use Spyder Pro 2.2 to calibrate my moniter and PrintFix Pro > > 2.1 for my profiles. Any suggestions on preferences for overhead > > and/or room lighting which would help in the most reproducible and easy > > calibration. At this point in time, I could put in pretty much what I > > want. Flouresecent vs incandescent, color temp, etc. > > > > The first consideration is consistancy. Yes, daylight is a wonderful thing > that makes us happy and healthy; but it is incompatable with serious image > editing. You need a room with no window light, or a dead minimum once the > blinds/drapes whatever are in place. And the blinds/drapes need to be neutral, they > can't be glowing purple or orange! > > Next is luminance level. If you are not using a proofing booth, then overall > room lighting needs to be correct for the brightness of your monitor. You > don't want to be using your monitor at full brightness; so it will remain capable > of the same setting over time, and won't burn out prematurely, as well as to > obtain a reasonable calibration. So no higher than 175 candelas on the monitor, > with something in the 125 to 150 range being the most reasonable choice. Then > you can use Spyder2PRO's ambient light feature to measure your room light and > tell you if its too much, too little, or about right. Basically, if it seems > somewhat dim, that would balance with a bright LCD, is it seems fairly dim, > that will match with a moderately bright LCD, and if it seems dim, that would > balance with a dim LCD or a bright CRT. If it seems like a cave, then you have > managed standard CRT levels. If you are using a proofing light, your ambient > can be dimmer, but doesn't have to be. Don't fall into the trap of using a > totally dark room and a bright LCD, that will cause glare and percieved contrast > increases that will ruin your print to screen match. > > Next is ambient light color: something in the 5000k to 6000k range is best. > Something resembling full spectrum (CRI of above 90) is best. But your monitor > is enough brighter than the room (if you follow the instructions above) so the > monitor, not the ambient lighting, will define your eye's whitepoint. > > Next would come proofing lights, but its a topic unto itself so I'm leaving > it for last, I'll cover room color next. Munsel gray paint gets a lot of > airtime; but its TOO DARK for most people's taste Kodak gray card gray, on large > wall and ceiling areas is quite opressive!). So get some light gray paint samples > from your paint store, use the spot measure function of PrintFIX PRO to > measure each sample, and chose the one with the smallest a* and b* values. This > will give you a light gray paint for the room. If you want to use a darker gray > below the wainscott line (chairrail) then thats good too, and battleship gray > floor paint is great for slabs. > > But all of this paint colors stuff is ignored by many users. If you ignore > it, then at least go to the efforts of hanging a large piece of neutral gray > fabric behind your monitor(s) so that there are not bright colors biasing your > eye while looking at the monitor. Ditto for the viewing box if you use one. > > Guess that brings us to the proofing light issues: get a 5000k proofing light > of some type, and set it up; ideally perpendicular to the monitors, not > directly beside them. If you proof under room light, then follow these directions > using the location where you place prints to view them. Put idential B&W test > image prints on both whitened and unwhitened sheets of paper in it (one sheet > Entrada Natural, one Entrada Bright, is good). If your box does not offer > luminance adjustment, make sure its at least a bit brighter than the room lighting; > meaning the paper looks dimmer, not brighter, when you withdraw it from the > box. Compare both prints to the same image in Photoshop softproofed to one > paper, then the other paper profile (paper white and ink black checked, BPC > unchecked). > > Which appears brighter; the monitor, or the print? How is the midtone > brightness, and the shadow detail. If you have an adjustable box, you can work with > that control, if not, you have to adjust the backlights on your LCD until you > have the right balance. If you adjust using the monitor backlights, then next > you need to recalibrate at your new white luminance level, and define that as > your target whitepoint for future calibration as well. If you have another > monitor, it gets set to this same white luminance target as well. > > Is that complicated enough? If not, you can fuss around with the difference > between the whitened paper proof, and the unwhitened one. > > As for room lighting to install: you won't need much, so use what you like. > In a typical office, I have to loosen three out of four bulbs in the overhead > fluorescent fixtures to get lighting down to even a moderate level, the highest > level that can be color managed. Consider having two levels of lighting > available: general (for vacuuming the floor, finding your glasses, etc...) and > color managed (with just the lights needed for appropriately dim ambient
> lighting). > > C. David Tobie > Product Technology Manager > ColorVision Business Unit > Datacolor Inc. > CDTobie@... > www.colorvision.com > > > ************************************** > AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. >
2007-03-19 by CDTobie@aol.com
2007-03-19 by tech4x5
Thanks again. Would you please refresh my memory how to meaure the ambient room light with the Spyder? --- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/19/07 2:36:24 PM, mkraus1044@... writes: > > > > Thanks for the thoughtful and detailed response. Just want to > > make sure I understand how to measure the candelas of my moniter. I > > think I go to tools/coloritmeter and then take a reading. Am I > > correct that the CIE xyY is the candela value? If not how do I find > > it? > > > Thats one way to find the current native white luminance... > > > > Mine measures 122. Does that mean that's as bright as my moniter > > goes? > > > If you are using the colorimeter window, and measuring white (255,255,255) > that tells you the current native white in little x little y, and the current > luminance as well. 122 with the backlight set to max would be correct for some > LCDs; for instance, thats all I get on my $7000 Eizo. Newer Cinema Displays are
> much brighter than this at full backlight, however. > > C. David Tobie > Product Technology Manager > ColorVision Business Division > DataColor Inc. > CDTobie@... > www.colorvision.com > > > > ************************************** > AOL now offers free email to everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. >
2007-03-20 by CDTobie@aol.com