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R: Re: [colorvision_group] Tip for a newbie (prints darker)

R: Re: [colorvision_group] Tip for a newbie (prints darker)

2009-02-10 by Giorgio

thanks for your quick and kind answer.
In the next few days I'll try applying your hints and I let you know 
here.
Meanwhile thanks again and 
have a nice day



Giorgio





>----Messaggio originale----

>Da: CDTobie@...

>Data: 10-feb-2009 4.44

>A: "colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com"<colorvision_group@yahoogroups.
com>

>Ogg: Re: [colorvision_group] Tip for a newbie (prints darker)

>

>No, 100cd/m2 should be fine, no need to lower it further. But 
whether  

>it matches what you shot will depend on ambient lighting; in a 
darker  

>room it would match at a lower luminance. Similarly, a brighter  

>proofing light may make it match at 100; these things are relative.

>

>Also, I would agree that the blacks are better with BPC unchecked,  

>which is why we recommend it. If you have all your variables 
(ambient  

>light, proofing light, monitor luminance) at optimally matched  

>settings, and you still find your prints to be darker than you 
would  

>like them, you may need to make a slider adjustment to your printer  

>profile to tune this. I would start by opening shadow detail about 
+5,  

>and adding +5 to the brightness as well.

>

>Buona notte,

>C. D. Tobie

>Global Product Technology Mngr.

>Digital Imaging & Home Theater

>Datacolor.com

>CDTobie@...

>

>On Feb 9, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Giorgio <gior.cap@...> wrote:

>

>> My dear,

>> you say that white tile and  printing process are good and this  

>> is .... good  :-)

>> The luminance of the (LCD) monitor is setted to 100 cd/sqm 
(squares  

>> meters):  do you think that a lower level should be better? I.e. 
80?

>> The point is that what I see (on the screen) is just the 
brightness  

>> level  I shooted : recalibrating my monitor, using the 
competition's  

>> product :-),  with a lower level of luminance I certainly will 
match  

>> print with screen but this one should not reflect the scene I  

>> shooted, don't you agree? Or am I wrong?

>>

>> About the refWhite control, do you mean that I redo profile 
process  

>> then, before generating it, I  should set L* value to an higher  

>> level?  Could you tell me your opinion on the working range of 
this  

>> adjust? i.e. starting from 3 figures? or more?

>>

>> Again, you say that BPC unchecked doesnt' make darker blacks: yes  

>> this is true (obviously!), I achieve a little  more  
brightness...  

>> but the blacks are better with BPC unchecked!

>>

>> I'm very happy with this spectro, I only need to work out that  

>> little big trouble :-)

>>

>> tks,

>> Giorgio

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Cdtobie ha scritto:

>>>

>>> Several comments that may be of assistance:

>>>

>>> Your white tile reading is good. (Tuo l'inglese e molto bene, 
anchi)

>>> Your printer profiling process also looks right.

>>>

>>> If you are seeing brighter images on screen than in print, you

>>> probably need to set a lower display luminance when calibrating 
your

>>> monitor. Not my job to tell you how to do that; since you are 
using

>>> the competition's product... ; )

>>>

>>> Softproofing for most gloss media will drop the image brightness 
on

>>> screen, since the media is not very white. To adjust the 
brightness  

>>> of

>>> gloss whites, increase the L* value in the Ref White control.

>>> Similarly, to darken blacks on matte media, lower the L* value in 
Ref

>>> Black.

>>>

>>> If you like the effect of BPC, feel free to use it. However, it 
can't

>>> make your blacks any darker, and on those occasions where it makes

>>> blacks lighter, people tend to get upset.

>>>

>>> You may be "going wrong" from some of the above, or other settings

>>> which can require "dialing in"; or it could be your expectations 
of
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>>> exact and automatic matching.

>>>

>>> Ciao,

>>> C. D. Tobie

>>> Global Product Technology Mngr.

>>> Digital Imaging & Home Theater

>>> Datacolor.com

>>> CDTobie@...

>>>

>>> O

>>>

>>> .

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>> 

>

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