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I`m using an older Spyder and I have the ability to adjust the luminance as well as the contrast with the controls on my monitor. I just profiled the monitor and the luminance was 150. Is this a good reading? What is "optimum"?
Mike

--- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, "leicamike2006" <mikesellers@...> wrote:
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> I`m using an older Spyder and I have the ability to adjust the luminance as well as the contrast with the controls on my monitor. I just profiled the monitor and the luminance was 150. Is this a good reading? What is "optimum"?
> Mike

I have my 23" Cinema Display set to 120. Seems that is what is recommended and what works for me. My client has her new iMac 27" set to 140 and it works well. Also note the brightness of your work environment and your print proofing area. Ideally the monitor brightness should match your print proofing area.

On Mar 11, 2011, at 9:33 AM, leicamike2006 wrote:

> I`m using an older Spyder and I have the ability to adjust the luminance as well as the contrast with the controls on my monitor. I just profiled the monitor and the luminance was 150. Is this a good reading? What is "optimum"?

With more recent versions of the Spyder software we've instituted features to help assure that people are using luminances (display brightness levels) that are appropriate for their type of display, and for their ambient lighting, or proofing lighting. If your product does not offer ambient light measurement and suggested luminance levels, then you have to deal with this yourself. In moderate lighting, with a newer LCD, 150 would not be unreasonable. If your lighting is dimmer, then 120 might be better. If you work in the dark, as in the old days of CRTs, then even 120 would cause a lot of glare and eyestrain, as well as being too punchy to match prints in a dim viewing condition. 90 would be a reasonable choice for such conditions.

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager
Imaging Color Solutions
CDTobie@...

Hi,
Forgot to mention that I am using Photocal 2.7.7-sounds like 150 is about right for my viewing conditions. Thanks for the replies.
Mike

--- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, C D Tobie <CDTobie@...> wrote:

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> On Mar 11, 2011, at 9:33 AM, leicamike2006 wrote:
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> > I`m using an older Spyder and I have the ability to adjust the luminance as well as the contrast with the controls on my monitor. I just profiled the monitor and the luminance was 150. Is this a good reading? What is "optimum"?
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> With more recent versions of the Spyder software we've instituted features to help assure that people are using luminances (display brightness levels) that are appropriate for their type of display, and for their ambient lighting, or proofing lighting. If your product does not offer ambient light measurement and suggested luminance levels, then you have to deal with this yourself. In moderate lighting, with a newer LCD, 150 would not be unreasonable. If your lighting is dimmer, then 120 might be better. If you work in the dark, as in the old days of CRTs, then even 120 would cause a lot of glare and eyestrain, as well as being too punchy to match prints in a dim viewing condition. 90 would be a reasonable choice for such conditions.
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> C. David Tobie
> Global Product Technology Manager
> Imaging Color Solutions
> CDTobie@...
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> Datacolor
> www.datacolor.com/Spyder3
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On Mar 11, 2011, at 10:41 AM, leicamike2006 wrote:

> Forgot to mention that I am using Photocal 2.7.7-sounds like 150 is about right for my viewing conditions. Thanks for the replies.

PhotoCal... then that would be a Spyder1! Wow... haven't seen one of those running in a while. Even the Spyder2 software will no longer run on the Mac as of the next OS X version; 10.7 (Tiger) no longer allows Rosetta emulation, so pre-dual-binary applications won't run on it. 

So: any of you who are using a Spyder2 on the Mac, please remember to keep a copy of an older, Rosetta compatible OS on one of your drives, if you wish to continue using Spyder2 products to calibrate your displays (the profiles you build can be used by any OS version). I suspect that there will be some type of upgrade offer made after Tiger is finally released... but keep in mind that upgrade offers that require new hardware are really user loyalty discounts, so they can't work miracles.

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager
Imaging Color Solutions
CDTobie@datacolor.com

CD,
How good are the profiles from PrintFix Pro?

--- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, C D Tobie <CDTobie@...> wrote:

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> On Mar 11, 2011, at 10:41 AM, leicamike2006 wrote:
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> > Forgot to mention that I am using Photocal 2.7.7-sounds like 150 is about right for my viewing conditions. Thanks for the replies.
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> PhotoCal... then that would be a Spyder1! Wow... haven't seen one of those running in a while. Even the Spyder2 software will no longer run on the Mac as of the next OS X version; 10.7 (Tiger) no longer allows Rosetta emulation, so pre-dual-binary applications won't run on it. 
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> So: any of you who are using a Spyder2 on the Mac, please remember to keep a copy of an older, Rosetta compatible OS on one of your drives, if you wish to continue using Spyder2 products to calibrate your displays (the profiles you build can be used by any OS version). I suspect that there will be some type of upgrade offer made after Tiger is finally released... but keep in mind that upgrade offers that require new hardware are really user loyalty discounts, so they can't work miracles.
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> C. David Tobie
> Global Product Technology Manager
> Imaging Color Solutions
> CDTobie@...
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> Datacolor
> www.datacolor.com/Spyder3
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On Mar 11, 2011, at 11:49 AM, leicamike2006 wrote:

> How good are the profiles from PrintFix Pro?

World Class, in my opinion... I certainly use them for printing the work for major exhibitions, etc. Print Fix Pro can be updated for free to Spyder3Print SR software, which has an even easier interface, faster measuring, and more features.

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager
Imaging Color Solutions
CDTobie@...

--- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, "leicamike2006" <mikesellers@...> wrote:
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> CD,
> How good are the profiles from PrintFix Pro?

Much better than the Color Munki! Right up there with the Eyeone that's 3-4 times the price of PrintFix Pro.

On Mar 11, 2011, at 12:55 PM, johnvphoto wrote:

>> How good are the profiles from PrintFix Pro?
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> Much better than the Color Munki! Right up there with the Eyeone that's 3-4 times the price of PrintFix Pro.

In all fairness to the products noted: the ColorMunki is a low-patch number, no-edits solution, so its not in the same league (even if its in a similar price range) to Spyder3 Print, while the EyeOne system offers a more comparable set of patch number and adjustment options (if at a much higher price). So the fact that PrintFix Pro/Spyder3 Print more closely resembles the latter not the former is to be expected. What confuses the issue a bit is X-Rite's choice to market the ColorMunki against Spyder3Print, and not the EyeOne system; but given the price-points, thats understandable.

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager
Imaging Color Solutions
CDTobie@...

I'm using luminance of 100. I find that if I use higher then my prints appear too dark (because I'm "correcting" an image on screen that is bright by reducing the brightness of the image image via the photo editing software)

--- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, "leicamike2006" <mikesellers@...> wrote:

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> I`m using an older Spyder and I have the ability to adjust the luminance as well as the contrast with the controls on my monitor. I just profiled the monitor and the luminance was 150. Is this a good reading? What is "optimum"?
> Mike
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That would indicate that you use low lighting and dim proofing light. 

C. D. Tobie
Global Product Technology Mngr.
Imaging Color Management
Datacolor.com
CDTobie@...

On Mar 12, 2011, at 2:10 PM, "capesamblue" <martin@...> wrote:

> I'm using luminance of 100. I find that if I use higher then my prints appear too dark (because I'm "correcting" an image on screen that is bright by reducing the brightness of the image image via the photo editing software)
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> --- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, "leicamike2006" <mikesellers@...> wrote:
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>> I`m using an older Spyder and I have the ability to adjust the luminance as well as the contrast with the controls on my monitor. I just profiled the monitor and the luminance was 150. Is this a good reading? What is "optimum"?
>> Mike
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