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RE: [disklavier] external tone generator

2014-01-20 by Geoff Ward

Yes, VanBasco still works but there is a timing mismatch between the melody and the progress of the lyrics.

Geoff

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JORGE FERNANDEZ
Sent: Monday, 20 January 2014 11:26 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] external tone generator

I use Van Basco KAR player, even cascading to an external tone generator, no problems, it works great!

From PC to DKV to generator using MIDI, lyrics delayed by KAR player.

El domingo, 19 de enero de 2014, Geoff Ward <gward1211@...> escribió:

Hello

Another instance where real time play is desirable is where the midi file has on-screen lyrics, such as a karaoke file. I have many of these and the lyrics don\u2019t progress in time with the melody if the 500ms delay is operative.

I therefore have a question: how noticeable is the sloppy timing of soft vs. loud notes and rapidly repeating notes? Is it only a problem for intense classical music and not really a problem for less demanding popular music?

Kind regards

Geoff

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Frederick Litterst
Sent: Monday, 20 January 2014 5:16 AM
To: disklavier@...m
Subject: Re: [disklavier] external tone generator

Good afternoon, everyone.

Sam, I think that the variety of scenarios that have been discussed have confused things. So, I'll lay out the information in a different way:

(1) Playback from internal memory or floppy disk

The MIDI Out port automatically works. All data is sent out the MIDI out port EXCEPT for the data that is played by the piano itself. The MIDI data that is sent to the MIDI Out port will be in sync with the playback of the piano itself.

If you want to send out ALL recorded data during playback (including the data that is intended to be played by the piano), you have to turn on the feature called Piano Part Ensemble Out.

(2) MIDI Out vs. MIDI Thru

You have two choices for the MIDI Out port: Keyboard Out and Delay Out.

If you choose Keyboard Out, the data that you generate by playing the piano yourself in real time is sent out the MIDI Out port without delay. I believe that I am correct in saying that on a Mark II, MIDI data that arrives at the MIDI In port is not sent to the MIDI Out port in this scenario. However, MIDI data that causes the keys to move will be sent to the MIDI Out port.

If you choose Delay Out, the MIDI Out port because a MIDI Thru port. In this scenario, the data that you generate by playing the piano yourself in real time is not sent out the MIDI Out port. Instead, whatever comes in the MIDI In port is passed through to the MIDI Out port. I am reasonably certain that if MIDI In is set to Real Time, there is no delay when the data is passed to the MIDI Out port. If MIDI In is set to the 500ms delay, that same delay is applied to the MIDI Out port.

(3) MIDI In: Real Time vs. 500ms Delay

It is very rare, with a Mark II, that you would want to set MIDI In to Real Time. If you do, playback by the piano becomes sloppy as the timing of each note is related to velocity of each note. Loud notes will be heard sooner than soft notes and rapidly repeated notes will not speak well. All notes will have some amount of delay.



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