Disklavier

sounds like a lot to do compared to a simple disc cloning that takes 
about 30 minutes of unattended waiting for a 1 tb computer drive that 
has about 250 gigs of data on it.

On 1/29/2014 9:04 PM, Bill Brandom wrote:
> NEAL and HORATIO,
>
> I have never experienced the backup/restore problems that Neal has 
> described. I have never found the Mark IV backup/restore function not 
> to work. I backed up last week. After seeing your emails, I decided to 
> do a restore and it looks like it is working perfectly. (I won't know, 
> however, until the process completes in about 3 hours.)
>
> During the last year, I have replaced my hard drive twice. The first 
> time was with a standard hard drive I purchased from an electronics 
> store. The second time I replaced the drive with a SSD drive. In both 
> cases, I did backups before the replacement and then used the restore 
> function to get all of my music to the new drive. To say the least, I 
> have a considerable amount of software (one of the benefits working 
> for Yamaha for 31 years...). As a result, I actually have two 
> different backups (with two different sets of music)  I work from. By 
> using the restore function, I am easily able to switch back and forth 
> between my two sets of music data.
>
> NEAL, my Mark IV operating system is currently DIO 4.21. The two USB 
> hard drives I use have been formatted as MS-DOS FAT 32. The only 
> negative I can find with the Mark IV backup/restore function is that 
> it takes a long time (USB 1.0). So, before I go to bed, I start either 
> the backup or the restore. When I wake up, the job is done. Neal, give 
> it a try. Just make sure that your external drive is formatted MS-DOS 
> FAT 32.
>
> HORATIO, first of all, there is an easy way to take a hard drive and 
> use it with the Mark IV. First, do your music software backup. There 
> are RESCUE CDs that can be used to place the operating system, 
> internal piano voice and all of the factory installed music software 
> on the drive. Three CDs are required, along with an update floppy. To 
> do the rescue, the 1st CD is inserted in the drive, along with the 
> update floppy. The piano is powered on and a couple of buttons have to 
> be pushed on the I/O center during the boot sequence. When the 1st CD 
> has been loaded, the CD drive ejects the CD and then you insert the 
> 2nd CD, after it is loaded, you insert the 3rd CD. After the 3rd CD 
> has been loaded, the rescue is done. The piano is now running 
> operating system DIO 3.0. From there, you can perform your music 
> software restore function, and then update your piano over the 
> Internet using Network Update.
>
> If you need the three iso files that make up the 3.0 rescue set, let 
> me know and I will send you links so you can download them. Each of 
> them are about 600 MB and each are burned as an image to the CDs. I 
> can help you with this process, if you need assistance.
>
> Bill
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:16 PM, carwizard 
> <carwizard@... 
> <mailto:carwizard@...>> wrote:
>
>
>     The restore feature of the Disklavier built in backup program no
>     longer works. Most users are not aware of this.
>
>     I lost my hard drive 4 months ago. I replaced the drive and then
>     used the built in restore function to bring back my music.to
>     <http://music.to> my surprise, it errored.  I called Freddie at
>     Yamaha and informed him of the issue. He then tested and verified
>     on his equipment to see if this was a local problem or system wide
>     one. Unfortunately, he too had the problem which makes all of us
>     in jeopardy. He said he would submit the problem to Japan, but so
>     far, no fix has been made. So I ended up spending 14 hours
>     reloading all my music and then did a "image" backup for
>     protection. Unfortunately, I have added music since the image
>     backup, which remains not backed up.
>
>     I am in the process of writing a letter to Yossi, and having
>     Martain in Yamaha service,deliver it. This is an unexceptable flaw
>     in what otherwise is a beautiful piano and service.
>
>     Neal - President
>     Affordable Classics, Inc
>
>     On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:40 PM, "Horatio Kemeny" <hkemeny@...
>     <mailto:hkemeny@...>> wrote:
>
>>     The backup function seems to create a very proprietary set of
>>     files which I\u2019m guessing work well within the confines of the
>>     \u201cbackup\u201d and \u201crestore\u201d functions of the Mark IV. But if you lose
>>     the whole HD, you lose the file systems and the operating
>>     systems\u2026 and you\u2019ll never get to that menu. It would be arduous
>>     but not impossible\u2026 you\u2019d restore the whole drive from the
>>     original image, then do any upgrades that Yamaha has provided
>>     since, and then use the restore function to pull your material
>>     from the backup \u2014 and hope it works. I\u2019ve never restored from it,
>>     but my only experiences with propriatery backup/restore systems
>>     aren\u2019t great.  Anyone who remembers MS-DOS\u2019s Backup/Restore will
>>     certainly know of what I speak.
>>
>>
>>     DKVBrowser lets you copy actual files, but only the non-protected
>>     files. A PianoSoft CD that\u2019s been imported to the HD would have
>>     to be re-imported.
>>
>>     In bits and pieces, it\u2019d be possible to rebuild from scratch,
>>     providing you\u2019ve been dutifully making backups. It just occurs to
>>     me that the right way to do this would be a complete HD image.
>>     One snapshot and done.
>>
>>     \u2026..HK
>>
>>     On Jan 29, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Bill Brandom <billbrando@...
>>     <mailto:billbrando@...>> wrote:
>>
>>>     Horatio,
>>>
>>>     Can't you use the Mark IV backup function?
>>>
>>>     Bill
>>>
>>>     Sent from my iPhone.
>>>
>>>     On Jan 29, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Horatio Kemeny <hkemeny@...
>>>     <mailto:hkemeny@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     There seems to be an emerging trend with respect to SSD
>>>     failures\u2026 that when they fail, they fail instantly. A mechanical
>>>     HD would typically start causing problems and throwing out
>>>     errors, giving you some time (days or weeks) to deal with it.
>>>     Not so with SSD. A simple Google of \u201cSSD failure\u201d will pop up a
>>>     concerning list of articles.
>>>
>>>     For those who aren\u2019t sure what I\u2019m talking about, you have
>>>     nothing to worry about\u2026 your piano, if it has a HD, has a
>>>     mechanical old-school one. For those of us who\u2019ve done an
>>>     upgrade from mechanical to SSD, this is an issue.
>>>
>>>     Sidenote: upgrading the HD makes your piano perform wonderfully.
>>>     Boot times are measured in seconds, not minutes. Jumping around
>>>     menus goes from annoying to instant. Far more storage space.
>>>
>>>     The issue that it could die at any moment, though, throws a bit
>>>     of a snag into things. It\u2019s not so simple to back-up that entire
>>>     drive. Its contents, sure\u2026 but if my SSD died now, I\u2019d have to
>>>     be reverting to the disk image I manually made before I did the
>>>     upgrade. And I\u2019d lose any new content that I hadn\u2019t backed up,
>>>     and would have to restore it.
>>>
>>>     So\u2026\u2026. suggestions? Anyone know of a good way to backup the
>>>     piano\u2019s HD without physically removing it and mounting it on an
>>>     external machine? In a perfect world, DKVBrowser would have an
>>>     option to [Create HD image] and with one keystroke, you could
>>>     keep a backup on a computer and simply image a new SSD when
>>>     needed. Hey Kevin, are you reading this?! :) Is that feasible?
>>>     Is there a better way? Another way?
>>>
>>>     \u2026..HK
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