what do you mean by extra notes? any idea where they came from? did you process with nothing but pedals on ch 3 selected? all that should happen is changing of channels. the program should do nothing else. it might have been that brushed notes became apparent once the pedal was working differently. On 2/25/2014 8:35 PM, Skanter123 wrote: > For some reason, pedals are disabled when DKV is in silent mode, > though you have the option of keys going up and down. Strange. In any > case, i can't test MIDImod till tomorrow... > > Sam > www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com> > (212) 684-3304 > > > > > > On Feb 25, 2014, at 10:47 PM, Skanter123 <skanter123@... > <mailto:skanter123@...>> wrote: > >> Geoff and Spence,I used the version on the site, checked "pedal >> events on ch 3" box. I then changed MIDI IN settings on DKV to HP >> (what does that stand for?) >> >> It seemed to work, though i got a few extra notes playing on piano >> that didn't belong. Couldn't test fully as it got too late here and >> can't play acoustic after 10 pm. I guess i could test with internal >> sounds and headphones. Will do a bit later, report back. If it works, >> it's terrific! >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com> >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 25, 2014, at 9:11 PM, "Geoff Ward" <gward1211@... >> <mailto:gward1211@...>> wrote: >> >>> I think you should post the full screen version and make it a new >>> version. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Geoff >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:*disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>> [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Spencer Chase >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 February 2014 12:58 PM >>> *To:* disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [disklavier] DKV volume >>> >>> i think the only things i changed were allowing all the sliders to >>> fit on one screen without scrolling and putting the config file in >>> the working folder in case windows doesn't like to write it to C:\. >>> there were no changes to anything else so if it works for you as it >>> is, there is no reason to get another version unless you use the >>> velocity sliders a lot and want them all shown at once. >>> >>> Geoff, please tell me which version to post. i don't want the >>> confusion of multiple versions. >>> >>>> Should i try this version? >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> >>>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Spencer Chase >>>> <lists@... <mailto:lists@...>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> no attachment, please send directly to me. i know i changed to a >>>>> different arrangement of the window. i also have a version that >>>>> does not write the config file to C:\ because some windows >>>>> installations do not allow this. which do you have and which do >>>>> you think makes sense for most people? it is only a few very >>>>> secure windows installations that prevent writing a txt file to >>>>> C:\ from what i an see it is only this new "no c" version that has >>>>> all the sliders showing without scrolling. >>>>> >>>>> On 2/25/2014 3:45 PM, Geoff Ward wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Spencer >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the latest of midimod2 that you sent me. Remember that >>>>>> you modified it to show a full screen. I\u2019m not sure that it has >>>>>> been fully tested but it has worked OK for me so far. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Geoff >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:*disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>> [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Spencer Chase >>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 February 2014 10:13 AM >>>>>> *To:* disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [disklavier] DKV volume >>>>>> >>>>>> geoff send me the latest one and i'll post it. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/25/2014 1:43 PM, Geoff Ward wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Spencer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The link you gave below does not lead to the latest version of >>>>>>> your program. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:*disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>>> [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Spencer Chase >>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 February 2014 1:29 AM >>>>>>> *To:* disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [disklavier] DKV volume >>>>>>> >>>>>>> my midimod2 program will move all pedal data to channel 3 if you >>>>>>> select the "pedal events on ch 3" checkbox. if this is all you >>>>>>> want to do, leave the default preset of "no change" for velocity >>>>>>> modifications. you can do single files or whole folders in batch >>>>>>> mode. the program may be found on my download page >>>>>>> http://spencerserolls.com/Files4Download.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2/25/2014 12:03 AM, Skanter123 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As i look at event lists from DKV files (from eCompetitions) it >>>>>>>> seems that #67 is soft pedal. Sustain data is all #64, both >>>>>>>> on/off and incremental. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know how to batch copy all pedal data to another >>>>>>>> channel (at least with the sequencer I have here at home), but >>>>>>>> I certainly can move everything to ch 1. Ill try this and >>>>>>>> report back. Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:46 AM, Bill Brandom <billbrando@... >>>>>>>> <mailto:billbrando@...>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have both on/off and incremental on channel 1, then >>>>>>>>> copy all of the pedal data (Controllers 64 and 67) to channel 3. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you can't extract the pedal data from the note data, and >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> if you are making Piano-only music, try just copying ALL of >>>>>>>>> the note and pedal data on channel 1 to channel 3. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Sam Kanter <skanter123@... >>>>>>>>> <mailto:skanter123@...>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bill, not sure what you mean here. How would I copy MIDI >>>>>>>>> half-pedal (controller #67) from channel 1 to channel 3 on >>>>>>>>> MIDI files that have both on ch 1? I am referring to files >>>>>>>>> that already have the half-pedal data. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sam Kanter >>>>>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com> >>>>>>>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:04 AM, Bill Brandom >>>>>>>>> <bill.brandom03@... <mailto:bill.brandom03@...>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sam, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I believe you can copy your on/off pedal data from channel one >>>>>>>>> to channel 3 on both types of MIDI files. Leave your on/off >>>>>>>>> pedal data on channel 1 and then make your incremental >>>>>>>>> modifications to the on/off pedal data on channel 3. You >>>>>>>>> should be fine. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Skanter123 <skanter123@... >>>>>>>>> <mailto:skanter123@...>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Geoff and Spence have both been incredibly generous in trying >>>>>>>>> to help me with the clunking, noisy damper pedal on my MK II >>>>>>>>> DKV when playing back MIDI files. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> After trying Spence's pedal on/off program to no avail, we are >>>>>>>>> realizing that the older DKVs like the MKII receive damper >>>>>>>>> on/off data on ch 1, and half-pedal data on ch 3. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can anyone enlighten us on what type of MIDI files (0 or1) >>>>>>>>> have pedal info on ch 3? Is there a way to extract this data >>>>>>>>> that might be embedded on ch 1? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does anyone with older DKVs have this clunking pedal issue, >>>>>>>>> and have they found a way to solve it? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (212) 684-3304 <tel:%28212%29%20684-3304> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Sam Kanter <skanter123@... >>>>>>>>> <mailto:skanter123@...>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Geoff, the settings are very helpful. Hopefully I can >>>>>>>>>> experiment tomorrow and see how they work. I will report back >>>>>>>>>> and update. Thanks! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (212) 684-3304 <tel:%28212%29%20684-3304> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> /*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 5:57 PM, "Geoff Ward" >>>>>>>>>> <gward1211@... <mailto:gward1211@...>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The attached screenshot is of the settings I found best, but >>>>>>>>>>> it depends on the regulation of the piano. On mine, the >>>>>>>>>>> dampers just clear all of the strings at a midi value of 60 >>>>>>>>>>> (I created a test file with various levels to ascertain that >>>>>>>>>>> figure). So I set it at a max of 70 to ensure strings were >>>>>>>>>>> undamped. At 40 all strings were fully damped. So a range >>>>>>>>>>> of 40 to 70 minimises the pedal travel. However, the ramps >>>>>>>>>>> of midi 64 controllers thus created still descend to 0 if >>>>>>>>>>> time permits, so I\u2019m not quite sure what the pedal off >>>>>>>>>>> threshold of 40 determines. It does seem to put a shoulder >>>>>>>>>>> in the ramp at the 40 mark and affects the position of the >>>>>>>>>>> ramp. This is always a compromise. The sustain pedal will >>>>>>>>>>> take effect at a later point in time and will come off >>>>>>>>>>> earlier and I think that the threshold levels are intended >>>>>>>>>>> to position the ramps so that the sustain actuation occurs >>>>>>>>>>> as close as possible to where the former on/off controllers >>>>>>>>>>> occurred. It\u2019s not perfect because damper lift-off is not >>>>>>>>>>> perfect. On my piano, which is new, the damper lift-off >>>>>>>>>>> range is about 50 to 60. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The soft pedal is not so critical. For the soft pedal, the >>>>>>>>>>> ramp is set to run the full range from 0 to 127, as you >>>>>>>>>>> would expect. I\u2019m again not sure of the significance of the >>>>>>>>>>> on and off threshold values, but these settings worked for me. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:*disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Skanter123 >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 20 February 2014 5:29 PM >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [disklavier] DKV volume >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Geoff, do you have an idea what would be good starting >>>>>>>>>>> settings for MPX100II? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is a mark II DKV, not mark II XG. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (212) 684-3304 <tel:%28212%29%20684-3304> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 1:26 AM, Spencer Chase >>>>>>>>>>> <lists@... <mailto:lists@...>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> i wrote the program but Geoff did the testing and has a DKV >>>>>>>>>>>> to test on so he is the authority for appropriate settings, >>>>>>>>>>>> at least for pianos similar to his. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2014 10:16 PM, Sam Kanter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow - this looks like just what the doctor ordered to fix >>>>>>>>>>>>> the noisy on/off pedaling issue. Can't wait to test it >>>>>>>>>>>>> during day hours. Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Kanter >>>>>>>>>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (212) 684-3304 <tel:%28212%29%20684-3304> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Spencer Chase >>>>>>>>>>>>> <lists@... >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:lists@...>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> i uploaded the new version of the pedal modifier program >>>>>>>>>>>>> do not use the link in the last e-mail because the name >>>>>>>>>>>>> has changed. go to the download page of my site >>>>>>>>>>>>> spencerserolls.com <http://spencerserolls.com> and find >>>>>>>>>>>>> the *On Off to Gradual Pedal converter program >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://spencerserolls.com/On_off-gradual_pedalingTK_soft-sust_new.zip>*** (New**) >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually, this link might work from e-mail but best to >>>>>>>>>>>>> visit the download page instead. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2014 8:20 PM, Skanter123 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geoff, what is the exact name of Spencer's pedal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> program? I could not find it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.keyboardcollective.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (212) 684-3304 <tel:%28212%29%20684-3304> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 11:18 PM, Geoff Ward >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gward1211@... <mailto:gward1211@...>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just following up on Spencer\u2019s comments about his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program to apply up and down ramps to on-off pedal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controllers. The program works best with type 0 midi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files and it works well to remove pedal noise from my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MKIV when playing low volume midi files. File of just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piano music can be easily converted from type 1 to type >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 in a program like Cakewalk, or Spencer also has a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Spencer, the pedal modifier program on your website is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not the latest \u2013 the latest version displays parameters >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for both sustain and soft pedals). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone wants to use this program, I have worked out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the settings which give good results for my MKIV. If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone wants them, please let me know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geoff Ward >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:*disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>] *On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Spencer Chase >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 19 February 2014 4:23 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [disklavier] DKV volume >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my computer is screwing up after that last win8 update. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not sure how much i can do while traveling. hope it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recovers. it looks like the most recent version of on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off to gradual pedaling is on the download page of my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web site. Geoff reads this list. he recently had some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "problems" with the program but it turned out to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> misunderstanding of what it could do. he remembers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better than i so can probably answer questions. i know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he has successfully used it to reduce both soft and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sustain pedal noise. be sure to use the on off to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gradual, not the reverse. the program has to interpolate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ramped controllers. it does the best it can but you have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to choose settings for some strange files??? probably >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best to use the default settings until you figure out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something better. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://spencerserolls.com/Files4Download.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/18/2014 9:10 AM, Skanter123 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Spence - I would be interested... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.keyboardcollective.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (212) 684-3304 <tel:%28212%29%20684-3304> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Spencer Chase >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lists@... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:lists@...>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about pedals, i have a program that interpolates >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> progressive pedaling in to MIDI files. not sure if i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put it on my web site or not. i recently went through >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> testing with Geoff Ward and i believe we found the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program to do what it should. it definitely reduces >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pedal noise. i am really busy right now getting ready >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a trip but will probably be stuck in the airport >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for hours later today (weather) and can make sure a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working version is posted to my server. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if anyone is interested, let me know. i have a lot to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do so will not bother unless people want it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/18/2014 12:01 AM, Skanter123 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry about that. I mis-read your question. George >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will need to respond on your Controller 7 question >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about how it affects the Disklavier. I just know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Controller 7 is set to 100 at the beginning of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yamaha PianoSoft Disklavier files. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm...I'm wondering how MIDI volume (controller 7) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can affect an acoustic piano. It seems the only way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to affect volume on a DKV is by velocity or soft >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pedal (bringing hammers closer), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not seen any sort of volume control curve for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disklavier. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noisy pedals - This is usually the result of playing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI files that have ON/OFF pedaling, instead of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incremental pedaling. During playback, ON/OFF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pedaling goes from full OFF to full ON and then back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to full OFF. This is much noiser (and much less >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> musical) than incremental pedaling. I imagine that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when you record on your Disklavier, the playback of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the pedals is much better, right? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes! This makes sense. � I wonder if there is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple way to control this when playing MIDI files >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that only have ON/OFF? Probably some utility somewhere... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Skanter123 <skanter123@... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:skanter123@...>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Feb 17, 2014 10:53 pm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] DKV volume >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam� >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.keyboardcollective.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (212) 684-3304 <tel:%28212%29%20684-3304> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2014, at 1:36 AM, Bill Brandom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <billbrando@... <mailto:billbrando@...>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill, thanks for your detailed reply. I'm still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confused about a few things, though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You stated that you are reducing MIDI velocities and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not hearing a difference on the Disklavier. My guess >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is that your music must be playing pretty softly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Disklavier will not attempt to play it any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> softer, even with the velocities reduced. Just to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm that your velocity changes are or are not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working, take a very high velocity note and reduce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its velocity considerably and see if the Disklavier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plays it back considerable softer. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I said that lowering MIDI VOLUME (not velocity) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produced no affect. I'm not sure how changing MIDI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volume (controller #7) affects the DKV if at all. Is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it supposed to? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The built in volume control on the Disklavier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compresses the playback, reducing the highest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> velocity notes much more than the lower velocity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notes. On your MPX100II, at a certain volume level (I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think -7, the hammer rest rail of your piano moves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hammers much closer to the strings, thereby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making the piano play much softer.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On my DKV, the velocity seems to decrease as I bring >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it down from 0 to -10, but I'm not sure what the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> curve is. Is there a graphic showing this curve? I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume the � volume control affects velocity only, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and not the soft pedal? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another unrelated issue i have is that, on some MIDI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file playback, the damper pedal is quite noisy. It is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sustaining notes properly but moving up and down more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than it needs to (like some of my beginning students >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who stamp on the pedal until they learn to use it). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> � Is there a way to control the continuous movement >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the pedal to limit it's movement somewhat so it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be quieter? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your help... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Skanter123 <skanter123@... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:skanter123@...>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Feb 17, 2014 8:43 pm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] DKV volume >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, George. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being a synthesist as well as pianist, I was there at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI's start, and know my way around SYSEX charts, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but am still confused about how MIDI volume and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> velocity affects an acousto-electric instrument like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the DKV.� >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see no affect when I lower MIDI volume of MIDI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files with a sequencer. How is that supposed to work? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, does changing velocity values affect the force >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or speed of the hammers, or just implement the soft >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pedal? What exactly does the built-in volume control >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on DKV do, is it the same on all DKVs? Mine is a 1997 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MPX100II. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam� >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.keyboardcollective.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (212) 684-3304 <tel:%28212%29%20684-3304> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 7:04 PM, Bill Brandom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bill.brandom03@... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:bill.brandom03@...>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great Disklavier volume explanation!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:41 PM, George Frederick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Litterst <PianoBench@... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:PianoBench@...>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good afternoon, everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is a comprehensive dissertation on the various >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elements that affect playback volume of the Disklavier: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *(1) Disklavier's Volume Setting on the Control Panel* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For all Disklaviers except the Mark IV, volume is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set on a scale of 0 to -10. A setting of 0 is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default (full volume) and is the only setting that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> properly plays back a file that was recorded on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instrument. All of the other volume settings on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control panel result in the volume being scaled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down, with -10 as the lowest setting. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mark IV is a bit different. The hand-held PRC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a volume meter that goes from 1 to 127. A value >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of 100 is normal, full volume. A higher value scales >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up the volume beyond normal, and a lower setting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scales down the volume. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bottom Line: For accurate playback, set your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disklavier's volume to 0 (or to 100, in the case of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Mark IV). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *(2) MIDI Note-on Velocity* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Depending upon the model of Disklavier, MIDI note-on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> velocity represents either the hammer velocity of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the note (in the case of instruments that have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hammer sensors) or the key velocity of a note (in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the case of the Disklaviers that do not have hammer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sensors). The range of possible values is 0 to 127. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A value of 0 in the MIDI world is the same as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> note-off message. Therefore, the effective minimum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value is 1 and the maximum value is 127. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the case of casual playing, the Disklavier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generates note-on values in the range of about 40 to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 90. When an artist pushes the dynamic range of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instrument, the low values may start in the 15-20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> range and go up into the 105-115 range. It is rather >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unusual for a pianist to generate note-on values >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above 115. Note-on values below 20 are often brushed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notes that were barely played and/or which may have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been accidentally played. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, there is no industry standard for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what a particular MIDI note-on value actually means. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you record a MIDI file on certain Yamaha >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboards--such as an AvantGrand or a Clavinova, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playback on the Disklavier will sound pretty good. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you record on a Yamaha DGX-640, playback may >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound OK in the soft range but will sound bizarre in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the medium to loud range with certain notes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unexpectedly jumping out at you. The reason is that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the velocity profile of the DGX-640 does not match >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the velocity profile of the Disklavier. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many light action keyboards routinely generate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> velocities in the range of 100-127. When those files >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are played on a Disklavier, it may sound as though >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one is taking a sledgehammer to the instrument. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best way to adjust for these files is to scale down >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the velocities so that they are within the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disklavier's normal range. That does not mean that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the resulting velocity profile will match up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> musically with the Diskla vier's profile, but at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the sound will not be excruciatingly loud. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bottom Line: It's best to stick with files that were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorded on the Disklavier or which were recorded >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with instruments that have similar velocity profiles. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOTE: The Disklavier PRO records note-on velocity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with higher than normal resolution, effectively on a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scale of 0 - 1023 where the Disklavier PRO's 0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal MIDI 0 and the Disklavier PRO's 1023 normal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI 127. The extra bits of resolution are stored as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI controller data. � >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *(3) MIDI Controller 7* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The MIDI spec has provision for 128 controllers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> numbered from 0 to 127. Many of these controllers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are defined for specific purposes. For example: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Controller 64 = sustain pedal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Controller 66 = /sostenuto/ pedal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Controller 67 = /una corda/ pedal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many controllers are undefined. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The controllers that typically affect volume are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controller 7 (known as Volume) and controller 11 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (known as Expression). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Each track of a properly formatted MIDI file has a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controller 7 value at the beginning of the track >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that sets an overall relative volume for the entire >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track.� Imagine, for example, that you are creating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a multitrack MIDI file for piano, bass, and flute. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You might start by setting controller 7 100 at the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beginning of each track. After you finish recording >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each track, if you decide that the flute part is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit soft, you might raise its controller 7 value. If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bass is too loud, you might lower its controller >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 value a bit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other words, you might use the controller 7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values like sliders on a channel mixer. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In theory, these controller 7 values function much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like swell shades in a pipe organ. A rank of pipes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives inside a chamber that is separated from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience by a wall of louvered panels. When the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organist rocks down or up on the swell pedal, these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> louvered panels close or open, thus causing the rank >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of pipes to sound softer or allowing them to sound >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> louder.� >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If controller 7 could be properly implemented on an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acoustic piano, it would result in the lid of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piano being moved farther up or down, thus allowing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sound to be louder or causing it to be softer. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course this is not practical. Therefore, if the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controller 7 value for the piano part is higher or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lower than 100, the Disklavier scales up or down the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> note-on velocities in order to simulate the same effect. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the authors of many MIDI files that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you find on the Internet assign high values for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controller 7 for the piano tracks. The reason is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they are listening to keyboards or tone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generators that have weak piano samples. Therefore, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they try to get a more robust sound by increasing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the volume level--often in combination with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deploying high key velocities. This can result in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destructively loud sound when these files are played >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a Disklavier. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bottom Line: As stated above,� it's best to stick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with files that were recorded on the Disklavier or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which were recorded with instruments that have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar velocity profiles.� If you want to play >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files from other sources, it is best to make sure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that controller 7 is set to 100 for the piano track >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that the note-on velocities are within the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal range of what is generated by the Disklavier. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *(4) MIDI Controller 11* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDIcontroller 11 is known as Expression. In most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cases, it functions identically to controller 7.� >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Authors of multitrack MIDI files often use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controller 7 to set overall volume levels for each >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track (placing these messages at the beginning of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the file) and then use controller 11 later in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file to make small adjustments to the instrumental >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> balance or to generate crescendos and diminuendos in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the case of wind and bowed instruments whose notes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can sustain indefinitely. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no need for controller 11 in a piano track. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the case of the Disklavier, using controller 11 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the piano track only serves to confuse the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controller 7 setting. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bottom Line: If you play files that have controller >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 messages in the piano track, it is best to get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rid of them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PianoBench >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Sam Kanter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is volume on DKV normally set to 0, 3, or is it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable for each MIDI file? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.keyboardcollective.com/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (212) 684-3304 <tel:%28212%29%20684-3304> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Bill Brandom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bill.brandom03@... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:bill.brandom03@...>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yamaha PianoSoft files for Disklavier have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controller 7 set to 100 at the beginning of each >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file. Without it, files typically play too loud on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Disklavier. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Skanter123 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <skanter123@... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:skanter123@...>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been unclear about this: regarding volume, is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there a "normal" volume for playback of MIDI files, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e. the thousands on www.disklavierworld.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.disklavierworld.com/>? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been using 3, but wondering if 0 is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starting point. Is each MIDI file different volume? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Spencer Chase >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 67550-Bell Springs Rd. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Garberville,CA 95542 Postal service only. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@...> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.spencerserolls.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (707) 984-8356 <tel:%28707%29%20984-8356> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (425) 791-0309 <tel:%28425%29%20791-0309> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Spencer Chase >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 67550-Bell Springs Rd. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Garberville,CA 95542 Postal service only. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@...> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.spencerserolls.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (707) 984-8356 <tel:%28707%29%20984-8356> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (425) 791-0309 <tel:%28425%29%20791-0309> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Spencer Chase >>>>>>>>>>>>> 67550-Bell Springs Rd. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Garberville,CA 95542 Postal service only. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@...> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.spencerserolls.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> (707) 984-8356 <tel:%28707%29%20984-8356> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (425) 791-0309 <tel:%28425%29%20791-0309> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Spencer Chase >>>>>>>>>>>> 67550-Bell Springs Rd. >>>>>>>>>>>> Garberville,CA 95542 Postal service only. >>>>>>>>>>>> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. >>>>>>>>>>>> Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@...> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.spencerserolls.com >>>>>>>>>>>> (707) 984-8356 <tel:%28707%29%20984-8356> >>>>>>>>>>>> (425) 791-0309 <tel:%28425%29%20791-0309> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, Spencer Chase >>>>>>> 67550-Bell Springs Rd. >>>>>>> Garberville,CA 95542 Postal service only. >>>>>>> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. >>>>>>> Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@...> >>>>>>> http://www.spencerserolls.com >>>>>>> (707) 984-8356 >>>>>>> (425) 791-0309 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, Spencer Chase >>>>>> 67550-Bell Springs Rd. >>>>>> Garberville,CA 95542 Postal service only. >>>>>> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. >>>>>> Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@...> >>>>>> http://www.spencerserolls.com >>>>>> (707) 984-8356 >>>>>> (425) 791-0309 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, Spencer Chase >>>>> 67550-Bell Springs Rd. >>>>> Garberville,CA 95542 Postal service only. >>>>> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. >>>>> Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@...> >>>>> http://www.spencerserolls.com >>>>> (707) 984-8356 >>>>> (425) 791-0309 >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Best regards, Spencer Chase >>> 67550-Bell Springs Rd. >>> Garberville,CA 95542 Postal service only. >>> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. >>> Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@...> >>> http://www.spencerserolls.com >>> (707) 984-8356 >>> (425) 791-0309 > -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550-Bell Springs Rd. 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Re: [disklavier] DKV volume
2014-02-26 by Spencer Chase