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Re: MX100A won't play converted midi file\sequencing woes

2002-01-24 by fakepopster

Your files worked terrific!  I wonder what you did that I didn't do.  
Perhaps it's the tool I'm using? ..or just my inexperience.  I used 
Anvil Studio to rechannel the piano to channel 1 and had the problems 
I already mentioned (one note plays and stays on).  There appear to 
be two other tracks not assigned a channel and just being used for a 
description or something.  Perhaps you could take a look at the file 
and see what you can figure out.  I put it out there in the folder 
you created for me.  

Also, I thought my MX100A reads both channel 1 & 2.  I edited a file 
to play bass (as left hand piano) on channel 1 and left the piano (as 
right hand piano) on channel 2.  It only played the left hand.  Do I 
have to tell the piano to read both channels somehow?  

Thanks for all the help!  I LOVE the internet and would never have 
bought this piano without the wealth of knowledge I was able to 
aquire from archives and help like I'm getting from you guys now.  
Looking forward to being able to return the favor to someone some 
day.  

--- In disklavier@y..., "midi_magic2000" <magic_midi@h...> wrote:
> Hi Ray
> 
> I have downloaded the fist two files from that site.
> Both files have the piano on track 3 Channel 3
> I used Music Studio 3 and rechanneled channel 3 to channel 1.
> 
> You will find the files in the "files" section of the group.
> Look under Midi Magic   Temp folder for RayDene.
> 
> Have a go with them and let us know if they work.
> 
> Midi Magic
> 
> 
> 
> --- In disklavier@y..., "fakepopster" <raydene@n...> wrote:
> > Thanks for both replies.  
> > 
> > I do understand that the channel needs to be set to 1 or 2.  I 
> should 
> > have said channel instead of track.  
> > 
> > The original files are here:
> > 
> >  
> 
http://www.landscape.it/vmagazine/panorami/midibox/jazzcollection.htm
> > 
> > I tried the first two songs with the same result.  I am attaching 
> the 
> > midi versions of the files with my edits.  (Oh...how do you 
attach 
> a 
> > file in this posting?  I couldn't even figure that out.)
> > 
> > I have since tried other files from other sites.  I edited the 
> files 
> > the same way as I described before and had success reassigning 
> > channels and editing out other intruments.  They played fine.  
> > However, I still can't get the aforementioned songs to play.  
> > 
> > Perhaps it's midi 1 vs. midi 0.  I don't know how to tell which 
is 
> > which by looking at the file, although ALL the files I've worked 
> with 
> > so far have multi channels and multi tracks.  If I understand 
you, 
> > this would mean they are SMF 1.
> > 
> > Also, tell me more about the "programmed event" on a track.  How 
> can 
> > if I have it and what can I do about it?     
> > 
> > 
> > --- In disklavier@y..., Jack.Schueler@s... wrote:
> > > 
> > > This may simply be your use of terminology but here goes 
(tracks 
> vs
> > > channels).
> > > 
> > > In type 1 SMF files, tracks are used to manage notes for a 
> > particular
> > > instrument.  You can have track 1 contain notes for a violin 
and 
> > track 5
> > > contain notes for a piano.  Switching the tracks around won't 
> change
> > > anything as far as your Disklavier is concerned.  What is 
really 
> > important,
> > > especially for the older Disklaviers, is the channel 
assignment.  
> > You have
> > > to make sure that the piano track is assigned to channel 1.  
You 
> > also have
> > > to make sure that your piano track doesn't have a "program" 
event 
> > that
> > > assigns the channel to an instrument other than "piano".
> > > 
> > > You might also come across midi files with the left and right 
> hands 
> > split
> > > into separate tracks with one track assigned to channel 1 and 
the 
> > other to
> > > channel 2. I have also sometimes seen a third track that 
contains 
> > only the
> > > pedal information.  The neat thing about this is your 
Disklavier 
> > can then
> > > be set to play only one of the hands.
> > > 
> > > A SMF type 0 midi file contains only 1 track with all the 
channel
> > > indicators embedded into the single track.  A SMF type 1 midi 
> file 
> > contains
> > > several tracks with each track assigned to a channel.
> > > 
> > > Jack
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "fakepopster" <raydene@n...> on 01/22/2002 05:01:32 PM
> > > 
> > > Please respond to disklavier@y...
> > 
> 
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> > >  To:       disklavier@y...                         
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> > >  cc:       (bcc: Jack Schueler/SYBASE)                        
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> > >  Subject:  [disklavier] MX100A won't play converted midi      
> > >            file\sequencing woes                               
> > >                                                               
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I followed the Dkvutils instructions listed in an archived 
> message 
> > at
> > > this site to the letter.  Everything went exactly as described,
> > > however, when I attempted to play it, it appears to be reading 
and
> > > playing it but the piano does not move except for one note.
> > > 
> > > I am using the correctly formatted older DD disks and 
converting a
> > > midi file to an e-seq file.  After I converted it the first 
time I
> > > took a look at the midi file through sequencing software.  Anvil
> > > Studio is the software.  The piano was on track eight so that
> > > probably explains why I hear nothing on that file.
> > > 
> > > Then I edited the midi file to have piano on track 1.  The file
> > > showed bass and drums on other tracks but is a piano ONLY file 
and
> > > when played on my PC, those tracks didn't seem to contain 
anything
> > > other than an instrument name.  I deleted those tracks except 
the
> > > piano on track 1 and converted the file again.  This is the 
file 
> > that
> > > plays one note and appears to keep reading but no sound.
> > > 
> > > Has anyone experienced anything like this?  Did I miss something
> > > easy?  Thanks for any help!
> > > 
> > > 
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