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Re: MX100A won't play converted midi file\sequencing woes

2002-01-25 by midi_magic2000

Hi 

I have looked at your converted file.

The very first note is on channel 1 which is why it plays.
But the rest are still on channel 3

Does your program have Midi List View?
If so have a look in there. It will frighten you at first but it's 
all very simple, realy!!! 
I am sorry but I have not used your program but they are all much the 
same these days.

Midi Magic



--- In disklavier@y..., "fakepopster" <raydene@n...> wrote:
> Your files worked terrific!  I wonder what you did that I didn't 
do.  
> Perhaps it's the tool I'm using? ..or just my inexperience.  I used 
> Anvil Studio to rechannel the piano to channel 1 and had the 
problems 
> I already mentioned (one note plays and stays on).  There appear to 
> be two other tracks not assigned a channel and just being used for 
a 
> description or something.  Perhaps you could take a look at the 
file 
> and see what you can figure out.  I put it out there in the folder 
> you created for me.  
> 
> Also, I thought my MX100A reads both channel 1 & 2.  I edited a 
file 
> to play bass (as left hand piano) on channel 1 and left the piano 
(as 
> right hand piano) on channel 2.  It only played the left hand.  Do 
I 
> have to tell the piano to read both channels somehow?  
> 
> Thanks for all the help!  I LOVE the internet and would never have 
> bought this piano without the wealth of knowledge I was able to 
> aquire from archives and help like I'm getting from you guys now.  
> Looking forward to being able to return the favor to someone some 
> day.  
> 
> --- In disklavier@y..., "midi_magic2000" <magic_midi@h...> wrote:
> > Hi Ray
> > 
> > I have downloaded the fist two files from that site.
> > Both files have the piano on track 3 Channel 3
> > I used Music Studio 3 and rechanneled channel 3 to channel 1.
> > 
> > You will find the files in the "files" section of the group.
> > Look under Midi Magic   Temp folder for RayDene.
> > 
> > Have a go with them and let us know if they work.
> > 
> > Midi Magic
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In disklavier@y..., "fakepopster" <raydene@n...> wrote:
> > > Thanks for both replies.  
> > > 
> > > I do understand that the channel needs to be set to 1 or 2.  I 
> > should 
> > > have said channel instead of track.  
> > > 
> > > The original files are here:
> > > 
> > >  
> > 
> 
http://www.landscape.it/vmagazine/panorami/midibox/jazzcollection.htm
> > > 
> > > I tried the first two songs with the same result.  I am 
attaching 
> > the 
> > > midi versions of the files with my edits.  (Oh...how do you 
> attach 
> > a 
> > > file in this posting?  I couldn't even figure that out.)
> > > 
> > > I have since tried other files from other sites.  I edited the 
> > files 
> > > the same way as I described before and had success reassigning 
> > > channels and editing out other intruments.  They played fine.  
> > > However, I still can't get the aforementioned songs to play.  
> > > 
> > > Perhaps it's midi 1 vs. midi 0.  I don't know how to tell which 
> is 
> > > which by looking at the file, although ALL the files I've 
worked 
> > with 
> > > so far have multi channels and multi tracks.  If I understand 
> you, 
> > > this would mean they are SMF 1.
> > > 
> > > Also, tell me more about the "programmed event" on a track.  
How 
> > can 
> > > if I have it and what can I do about it?     
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In disklavier@y..., Jack.Schueler@s... wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > This may simply be your use of terminology but here goes 
> (tracks 
> > vs
> > > > channels).
> > > > 
> > > > In type 1 SMF files, tracks are used to manage notes for a 
> > > particular
> > > > instrument.  You can have track 1 contain notes for a violin 
> and 
> > > track 5
> > > > contain notes for a piano.  Switching the tracks around won't 
> > change
> > > > anything as far as your Disklavier is concerned.  What is 
> really 
> > > important,
> > > > especially for the older Disklaviers, is the channel 
> assignment.  
> > > You have
> > > > to make sure that the piano track is assigned to channel 1.  
> You 
> > > also have
> > > > to make sure that your piano track doesn't have a "program" 
> event 
> > > that
> > > > assigns the channel to an instrument other than "piano".
> > > > 
> > > > You might also come across midi files with the left and right 
> > hands 
> > > split
> > > > into separate tracks with one track assigned to channel 1 and 
> the 
> > > other to
> > > > channel 2. I have also sometimes seen a third track that 
> contains 
> > > only the
> > > > pedal information.  The neat thing about this is your 
> Disklavier 
> > > can then
> > > > be set to play only one of the hands.
> > > > 
> > > > A SMF type 0 midi file contains only 1 track with all the 
> channel
> > > > indicators embedded into the single track.  A SMF type 1 midi 
> > file 
> > > contains
> > > > several tracks with each track assigned to a channel.
> > > > 
> > > > Jack
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > "fakepopster" <raydene@n...> on 01/22/2002 05:01:32 PM
> > > > 
> > > > Please respond to disklavier@y...
> > > 
> > 
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> > > >  To:       disklavier@y...                         
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> > > >  cc:       (bcc: Jack Schueler/SYBASE)                        
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> > > >  Subject:  [disklavier] MX100A won't play converted midi      
> > > >            file\sequencing woes                               
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> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I followed the Dkvutils instructions listed in an archived 
> > message 
> > > at
> > > > this site to the letter.  Everything went exactly as 
described,
> > > > however, when I attempted to play it, it appears to be 
reading 
> and
> > > > playing it but the piano does not move except for one note.
> > > > 
> > > > I am using the correctly formatted older DD disks and 
> converting a
> > > > midi file to an e-seq file.  After I converted it the first 
> time I
> > > > took a look at the midi file through sequencing software.  
Anvil
> > > > Studio is the software.  The piano was on track eight so that
> > > > probably explains why I hear nothing on that file.
> > > > 
> > > > Then I edited the midi file to have piano on track 1.  The 
file
> > > > showed bass and drums on other tracks but is a piano ONLY 
file 
> and
> > > > when played on my PC, those tracks didn't seem to contain 
> anything
> > > > other than an instrument name.  I deleted those tracks except 
> the
> > > > piano on track 1 and converted the file again.  This is the 
> file 
> > > that
> > > > plays one note and appears to keep reading but no sound.
> > > > 
> > > > Has anyone experienced anything like this?  Did I miss 
something
> > > > easy?  Thanks for any help!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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