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Re: MX100A won't play converted midi file\sequencing woes

2002-01-25 by midi_magic2000

I thought they were a better then the norm' that would explain why.

Midi Magic

--- In disklavier@y..., Jack.Schueler@s... wrote:
> 
> Well, I see you found the site with pirated copies of PG Music's 
Jazz
> Pianist series (a title which PG Music no longer sell).  I 
purchased this
> title a long time ago (1995?).
> 
> Here's what the original looks like when converted to text using 
Gunter
> Nagler's MIDI utilities  The first three tracks don't contain 
notes. The
> fourth track, the piano, is assigned to channel 3.  Sorry for the 
length of
> this post, but it might help to see the MIDI file textually.  I cut 
out a
> lot of uninteresting stuff.
> 
> ******************************
> // jp006.mid
> mthd
>   version 1 // several tracks with seperated channels to play all 
at once
>   // 4 tracks
>   unit 480 // is 1/4
> end mthd
> 
> mtrk
>   key "1b maj"
>   smpteofs 3 00:00:00:0:0
>   metaevent 127  $00 $00 $00 $6A $00 $01 $31 $84 $00 $00 $00 $00 
$00 $00
> $00 $00
>      $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $14 $27 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $4D $1D
>      $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $31 $06 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00
>      $00 $00 $4C $03 $00 $00 $40 $27 $00 $00 $40 $1D $00 $00 $31 $06
> .
> . (text cut)
> .
>   beats 155.00031
>   tact 4 / 4 24 8
> 
> end mtrk
> 
> mtrk
>   prefixport 0
>   trackname "Bass"
> 
> end mtrk
> 
> mtrk
>   prefixport 0
>   trackname "Drums"
> 
> end mtrk
> 
> mtrk($3)
>   prefixport 0
>   trackname "Piano"
>   16;+c3 $5B;
>   9;+b2 $51;
>   41;-b2 $00;
>   462;+g#4 $4E;
>   13;+e4 $31;
>   99;-g#4 $00;
>   40;-e4 $00;
>   182;+e4 $43;
>   8;+g#4 $4A;
>   96;-e4 $00;
>   29;+f4 $51;
> .
> . (text cut)
> .
> end mtrk
> 
> ******************************
> Here's my modified version that I play on my Disklavier.  I have 
changed
> the channel assignment for the fourth track to 1.  I also added a 
trackname
> to the first track so that EEXPLORE will have a nice title for the 
ESEQ
> version of the MIDI file.
> 
> // XJP006.MID
> mthd
>   version 1 // several tracks with seperated channels to play all 
at once
>   // 4 tracks
>   unit 480 // is 1/4
> end mthd
> 
> mtrk
>   trackname "Alexander's Rag Time Band: Berlin,I."
>   key "1b maj"
>   smpteofs 3 00:00:00:0:0
>   metaevent 127  $00 $00 $00 $6A $00 $01 $31 $84 $00 $00 $00 $00 
$00 $00
> $00 $00
>      $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $14 $27 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $4D $1D
>      $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $31 $06 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00
>      $00 $00 $4C $03 $00 $00 $40 $27 $00 $00 $40 $1D $00 $00 $31 $06
> .
> . (text cut)
> .
>   beats 155.00031
>   tact 4 / 4 24 8
> 
> end mtrk
> 
> mtrk
>   prefixport 0
>   trackname "Bass"
> 
> end mtrk
> 
> mtrk
>   prefixport 0
>   trackname "Drums"
> 
> end mtrk
> 
> mtrk($1)
>   prefixport 0
>   trackname "Piano"
>   program Piano
>   16;+c3 $5B;
>   9;+b2 $51;
>   41;-b2 $00;
>   462;+g#4 $4E;
>   13;+e4 $31;
>   99;-g#4 $00;
>   40;-e4 $00;
>   182;+e4 $43;
>   8;+g#4 $4A;
>   96;-e4 $00;
>   29;+f4 $51;
> .
> . (text cut)
> .
> end mtrk
> ******************************
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Jack
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "fakepopster" <raydene@n...> on 01/23/2002 05:25:49 PM
> 
> Please respond to disklavier@y...
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>  cc:       (bcc: Jack Schueler/SYBASE)                        
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>  Subject:  [disklavier] Re: MX100A won't play converted midi  
>            file\sequencing woes                               
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for both replies.
> 
> I do understand that the channel needs to be set to 1 or 2.  I 
should
> have said channel instead of track.
> 
> The original files are here:
> 
>  
http://www.landscape.it/vmagazine/panorami/midibox/jazzcollection.htm
> 
> I tried the first two songs with the same result.  I am attaching 
the
> midi versions of the files with my edits.  (Oh...how do you attach a
> file in this posting?  I couldn't even figure that out.)
> 
> I have since tried other files from other sites.  I edited the files
> the same way as I described before and had success reassigning
> channels and editing out other intruments.  They played fine.
> However, I still can't get the aforementioned songs to play.
> 
> Perhaps it's midi 1 vs. midi 0.  I don't know how to tell which is
> which by looking at the file, although ALL the files I've worked 
with
> so far have multi channels and multi tracks.  If I understand you,
> this would mean they are SMF 1.
> 
> Also, tell me more about the "programmed event" on a track.  How can
> if I have it and what can I do about it?
> 
> 
> --- In disklavier@y..., Jack.Schueler@s... wrote:
> >
> > This may simply be your use of terminology but here goes (tracks 
vs
> > channels).
> >
> > In type 1 SMF files, tracks are used to manage notes for a
> particular
> > instrument.  You can have track 1 contain notes for a violin and
> track 5
> > contain notes for a piano.  Switching the tracks around won't 
change
> > anything as far as your Disklavier is concerned.  What is really
> important,
> > especially for the older Disklaviers, is the channel assignment.
> You have
> > to make sure that the piano track is assigned to channel 1.  You
> also have
> > to make sure that your piano track doesn't have a "program" event
> that
> > assigns the channel to an instrument other than "piano".
> >
> > You might also come across midi files with the left and right 
hands
> split
> > into separate tracks with one track assigned to channel 1 and the
> other to
> > channel 2. I have also sometimes seen a third track that contains
> only the
> > pedal information.  The neat thing about this is your Disklavier
> can then
> > be set to play only one of the hands.
> >
> > A SMF type 0 midi file contains only 1 track with all the channel
> > indicators embedded into the single track.  A SMF type 1 midi file
> contains
> > several tracks with each track assigned to a channel.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "fakepopster" <raydene@n...> on 01/22/2002 05:01:32 PM
> >
> > Please respond to disklavier@y...
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  To:       disklavier@y...
> >
> >  cc:       (bcc: Jack Schueler/SYBASE)
> >
> >
> >
> >  Subject:  [disklavier] MX100A won't play converted midi
> >            file\sequencing woes
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I followed the Dkvutils instructions listed in an archived message
> at
> > this site to the letter.  Everything went exactly as described,
> > however, when I attempted to play it, it appears to be reading and
> > playing it but the piano does not move except for one note.
> >
> > I am using the correctly formatted older DD disks and converting a
> > midi file to an e-seq file.  After I converted it the first time I
> > took a look at the midi file through sequencing software.  Anvil
> > Studio is the software.  The piano was on track eight so that
> > probably explains why I hear nothing on that file.
> >
> > Then I edited the midi file to have piano on track 1.  The file
> > showed bass and drums on other tracks but is a piano ONLY file and
> > when played on my PC, those tracks didn't seem to contain anything
> > other than an instrument name.  I deleted those tracks except the
> > piano on track 1 and converted the file again.  This is the file
> that
> > plays one note and appears to keep reading but no sound.
> >
> > Has anyone experienced anything like this?  Did I miss something
> > easy?  Thanks for any help!
> >
> >
> >
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