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Spencer

 

“what is the big deal using a little cable?”  Who wants cables if you can avoid them?  I have a Yamaha Bluetooth MIDI adapter MD-BT01 plugged into my DKV and run it using Sweetmidi on an iPad.  It works flawlessly from a distance of 20’ in another room.  But, I still prefer vanBasco on my Windows 10 laptop as I have access to my full music library and midi editing tools.  I also connect the laptop wirelessly to the DKV using an IOGear GUWIP204  <https://www.iogear.com/product/GUWIP204/> Wireless 4-Port USB Sharing Station.  I have a dedicated WIFI network setup with a new Linksys router mounted under the piano.  I recently bought a new router because the old Netgear router seemed to cause a lot of dropouts (or bunch-ups).  The new router works very well but I still get some delays and bunch-ups if I try to do something else on the Laptop, eg just opening File Explorer (the first time) will cause the playing to stop for a few seconds and then send all the missed notes in a bunch.  (Subsequent openings of File Explorer don’t interrupt vanBasco).  It would be good if I could tell Windows to not interrupt vanBasco with other processes.  I also have to change the setup in the DKV to switch the midi input from the Bluetooth input (DIN connectors) to the WIFI input (USB connector).  At George’s suggestion, I looked for hardware to avoid this setup dance, but the problem was that the Yamaha Bluetooth device requires power from the MIDI out port of the piano.  The DKV provides this power but the devices which I could use to combine several Midi inputs do not provide power.

So, I thought it would be good if I could use the Bluetooth input for both midi sources – Sweetmidi and vanBasco.  I am now going to attempt to use Loopmidi and Midiberry, previously suggested by Marc Kenig, to connect vanBasco to the Yamaha Bluetooth device.  Thanks Marc, I had forgotten about your suggestion.

Kind regards

Geoff

 

 

 

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 26 September 2017 11:16 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re[2]: [disklavier] vanBasco and Bluetooth

 

  

my question is why do you want/need bluetooth MIDI? the only thing that makes sense would be if your device does not have a USB port such as a smart phone or tablet. if you have USB, what is the big deal using a little cable? bluetooth has limited range especially the low energy (which is basically good for headphones and other close range devices. it suffers from dropout some times severely and is impossible to diagnose when this happens. 

 

i have friends who insist on streaming audio via bluetooth when they visit. the music is intolerable with constant dropouts and low overall quality. of course since MIDI is a simple and not very dense digital stream it is just the dropouts that are a problem, quality is fine when it works. 

 

we have HDMI for audio and video and the quality is superb with no dropouts ever. for the pianos i use audio cables but i have LX pianos and the audio is not of the low quality the DKV uses. i also have midi cables but rarely use them. i also have a wireless MIDI device and never use it, i bought it to see if it works and it does, sort of but ...

 

why are people so afraid of cables? i work on a CNC router for hours a day and because there is nothing to do but change parts every now and then, i watch movies. the machine is very loud so i use noise cancelling headphones. they have a cable and in this case it is somewhat of an inconvenience. i considered getting bluetooth headphones but decided i did not want to deal with the bluetooth issues and keeping batteries charged and this is an application where it really would be good (i keep tripping on the cable) if it only worked reliably

 

 

 

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From: "'George F. Litterst' PianoBench@... <mailto:PianoBench@...>  [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >

To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> 

Sent: 9/25/2017 5:06:12 PM

Subject: Re: [disklavier] vanBasco and Bluetooth

 

  

Good evening, everyone.

 

Geoff, at the very least, the operating system needs to support Bluetooth MIDI. From an early point, the Mac and iOS operating system have support BT MIDI.

 

On the Mac, you create a BT MIDI connection with your keyboard using Apple’s Audio MIDI Setup app. At that point, all CoreMIDI-compatible Macs can see the connection and use it. In essence, the apps get the connection “for free,” with not further app development.

 

On the iOS platform, the BT MIDI connection must be made by an app. Once any app makes the connection, all other CoreMIDI-compatible apps (with is most of the MIDI apps) can see and use the connection.

 

On the Windows side, BT MIDI has not been supported the operation system until Windows 10. Apparently, app developers must revise their apps in order to use it. You can get your research started here:

 

https://www.midi.org/articles/midi-enhancements-in-windows-10

 

Regards,

PianoBench





On Sep 24, 2017, at 8:56 PM, gward1211@... <mailto:gward1211@...>  [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > wrote:

 

 

Hi all,  Does anyone know if there is any way that vanBasco can be made to recognise the Yamaha Bluetooth MIDI interface MD-BT01.

Kind regards

 

Geoff