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Re: music creator 2002

2002-08-15 by HedoShedo

Ok...i'm lost here..what and where is controller 7??? Also all my 
files are from internet sources,that i edit with cake wall music 
creator 2002...i used the veloset with some sucess,but still need 
more work on the files




- In disklavier@y..., Robert Welcyng <rwelcyng@a...> wrote:
> One other catch I forgot to mention . . . If you are messing around 
> quieting PianoSoft Plus files, you should probably not use Veloset. 
> Veloset scales all tracks in the files.  Cakewalk Pro Audio makes a 
> better tool in allowing you to scale only the piano tracks.  You 
will 
> want to use your independent volume control for adjusting tone 
generator 
> sounds.
> 
> The advice of PianoBench is well taken:  For files that you have 
> downloaded, make sure controller 7 is set to 100 (unless you have a 
Mark 
> II only . . . without XG).
> 
> Robert Welcyng wrote:
> 
> > If a midi song is intended to have full dynamic range--that is, 
both 
> > very loud parts and soft parts--I generally limit the high 
velocity 
> > notes to 95 and the low velocity notes to 22.  If it is a softer 
song, I 
> > might bring the high velocity end down lower than 95.
> > 
> > With a DC3 Mark II, and with the DKV volume set to zero, the 
sound power 
> > in dB has a nice linear slope from velocity 95 down to 22.  There 
is a 
> > knee in the curve at 22.  Below 22 all velocities produce roughly 
the 
> > same sound level (and do not always strike reliably).  I think 
it's a 
> > good idea to have no notes below velocity 22.  If I find a file 
with a 
> > few scattered notes below 22, I set them all to 22, then scale 
the 
> > remaining notes appropriately.  With Veloset, you can shift all 
notes 
> > upward so that the lowest is 22, but you cannot set all in the 
range of 
> > 1 to 22 to 22.  Cakewalk Pro Audio 9, however, is capable of 
setting a 
> > range of velocities to a specified velocity.
> > 
> > If you want to have conversations, you can scale down well below 
95. 
> > Amazingly, you can still recognize PianoSoft music reduced to the 
range 
> > of 22 to 35.  (You'll notice that the DKV volume control no 
longer has 
> > much effect.) To my ear, scaled-down music loses its sizzle.  But 
then, 
> > if the conversation is more interesting, who cares?
> > 
> > HedoShedo wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>-thanks Robert..i did just that...works good..looks like most 
songs 
> >>downloaded from the internet are set at 127 or 109..what do you 
> >>suggest as a maximum? I used 60 -max...i want to have the piano 
> >>play,yet have conversations near it..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>- In disklavier@y..., Robert Welcyng <rwelcyng@a...> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>From this group's archives, download the dkvutils.  Make a 
second 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>copy 
> >>
> >>
> >>>of your MIDI file and open it in Veloset.  Scale and shift the 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>velocity 
> >>
> >>
> >>>distribution to your heart's content and save the file.
> >>>
> >>>Good luck.
> >>>
> >>>HedoShedo wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>hello..i recently bought a disklavier..love it,it's a 1999 mkII 
> >>>>xg...Bought music creator 2002,works ok,but i need to see if 
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>someone 
> >>
> >>
> >>>>knows how to edit velocity,so i can make music a little softer. 
i 
> >>>>can't seem to "save as" once I change the VEL...when I do,it's 
> >>>>lost,and starts the same, won't save the changes..help???
> >>>>
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