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Re: Piano Instruction Software

2002-11-29 by yamahamale

Hi Tom, I didn't mean to offend you by saying "people out there"
Maybe I should have investigated the posts a little more closely. 
Sorry about that. I was hoping I had found a program to use. The 
"Teach Me Piano" sounded ideal but it dosn't seem like this would be a 
program to have if it has so many bugs. I was anticipating on finding 
that there would be a lot of excellent software on this subject. I've 
been playing , on and off, since I was a child. Thought I'd find some 
good software to help me get my bearings back again with timing and 
notes. I have an SY77 but haven't delved into software or touched the 
SY in a couple of years. Now that I've got more time and waiting for a 
Disklavier to arrive, I thought this would be the perfect time to 
start shopping the software selections. I'm looking at printing, 
transcribing, mixing, editing etc.
  Curious as to why they haven't fixed the bugs. You'd think it would 
be easy for them. It's a shame cause the features it has sounds like 
it would be a great program. Maybe you are right and the speed of the 
informaion flow is too great for the computer to process, causing the 
bugs to happen.  Have you tried it on one of the newer and faster 
chips that are out? They've come a long way on speed in the past few 
years.
Jeff


--- In disklavier@y..., Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@n...> wrote:
> Jeff,
> 
> I think I am the only "people" talking about the bugs in Voyetra's 
> "Teach Me Piano" software. The bugs in this software do not crash 
your 
> computer.  I actually made a list of all of the bugs that I had 
> identified in the program about 1.5 years ago and sent it to 
Voyetra, 
> but they chose to ignore it and introduced a "Deluxe" edition of 
"Teach 
> me Piano" which only added some games and a few other features 
mostly 
> targeted at children while leaving all of the lessons in the 
original 
> version unchanged in the Deluxe edition.  Unfortunately, this meant 
that 
> the bugs are still present.
> 
> "Teach Me Piano" is capable of working with any midi instrument, 
> including the disklavier, to "grade" a students performance.  You 
are 
> graded on both your rhythm accuracy and on your pitch accuracy.  In 
> other words you are graded on  whether you played the correct notes 
and 
> played them with the correct timing as specified by the time 
signature 
> of the piece.  This feature will consistently report very low scores 
(on 
> the order of 30-40%) when you are playing both hands and the music 
has 
> any degree of complexity.  It simply does not matter how well you 
play 
> the piece, it will not be reflected in your "score".  However, if 
you 
> play one hand alone and the music is not too complex, the scoring 
> provides a reasonable indication of your performance quality.  This 
may 
> not be a bug so much as a limitation of the midi information that 
can be 
> returned by the disklavier and the ability of your lap top computer 
to 
> correctly process that information in real time.  I have found 
similar 
> scoring problems with Adventus' Piano Suite Premiere software.
> 
> Other bugs within "Teach Me Piano" that I recall are one of the 
musical 
> selections being left out of the Song Book, occasional notation 
errors 
> where the note shown in the musical selection is not the correct 
note, 
>  the fact that in Performance Mode (where you are playing along to 
an 
> instrumental accompaniment) the page turn anticipation feature does 
not 
> work, and other similar errors.  Interestingly enough, when you are 
> being graded on pitch, if you play the correct note it is scored 
> correctly whereas if you play the note in the music appearing on 
screen, 
> you will receive an error.  You would think it would have been an 
easy 
> thing to have corrected these errors in the notation.  
> 
> If you are interested in a detailed listing of the errors in "Teach 
Me 
> Piano", I'll be happy to send you a copy of the letter (as a Word 
> document) that I sent to Voyetra about 1.5 years ago.  
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> yamahamale wrote:
> 
> >I'm wondering what are these bugs that are in Voyetra "Teach Me 
Piano" 
> >that people are talking about. Is it something that will crash the 
> >computer over and over? Is it in every lesson or most? Thanks, Jeff
> >
> >--- In disklavier@y..., Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@n...> wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>There are  piano instruction software packages available other 
than 
> >>Voyetra's "Teach me Piano" which you may also wish to explore.
> >>
> >>Of all of the piano instruction packages that I have considered, I 
> >>    
> >>
> >like 
> >  
> >
> >>the Voyetra "Teach Me Piano" package best because: I have spoken 
> >>    
> >>
> >personally about a year ago with Mr. 
> >  
> >
> >>Hugh Berberich who designed the "Teach me Piano"  musical course, 
> >>    
> >>
> >and he 
> >  
> >
> >>and I both have tried hard to get Voyetra to expand this package 
and 
> >>also to correct some bugs that are in the program.  Unfortunately, 
> >>Voyetra seems to have little interest in correcting the software 
> >>    
> >>
> >bugs. 
> >  
> >
> >> Nonetheless, this is still a very worthwhile introduction to the 
> >>    
> >>
> >piano 
> >  
> >
> >>for serious students.  
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Tom
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >

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