Hi,
We are indeed most fortunate to have these softwares available to us
and they can also be found at efficient prices. I found Amazon.com
has "Teach Me Piano" for $24.99 and the deluxe version for $39.99.
eBay and Half.com have a few copies too.
--- In disklavier@y..., Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@n...> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> No offense was taken. I just wanted you to understand that I was
the
> only one who had mentioned bugs in the "Teach Me Piano" software.
>
> I would strongly urge you to consider the Voyetra "Teach Me Piano"
> program. Even with its bugs, it is an excellent software approach
to
> learning the piano and to enjoying the process when coupled with a
midi
> keyboard like a disklavier. I believe that it is the best of the
> software available for learning piano in spite of its bugs. I only
> mentioned the bugs because I did not want anyone to feel that this
> program was perfect. I think there is a lot of room for
improvement in
> piano instruction software using midi information. If I were a
> programmer and a better pianist, it would be a problem that I would
> tackle.
>
> Again, I think that the "Teach Me Piano" software would be
excellent for
> your purposes described below. However, for editing, transcribing,
etc.
> I would recommend other software packages such as PowerTracks by PG
> Music (http://www.pgmusic.com/) or one of the sequencers in the
Cakewalk
> family, e.g. Sonar (http://www.cakewalk.com/professionals.asp). If
you
> are interested in having accompaniments automatically generated by
> computer to match your acoustic piano melodies or you just want to
have
> a barrel of fun with music, there is no finer program for either of
> these purposes than Band-in-a-Box by PG Music (also described on
the web
> site link above). If you are interested in notating music (as well
as in
> the midi playback) of the scores then Finale or Sibelius are
excellent
> pieces of software (although rather expensive). You can read about
> these at: http://www.codamusic.com/coda/ and
> http://www.sibelius.com/cgi-bin/home/home.pl. Finally if you are
> interested in scanning in sheet music and then having it play back
on
> your disklavier as a midi file, an excellent program for this
purpose is
> Smart Score (http://www.musitek.com/).
>
> We are most fortunate to have all of this software and it has added
> immeasurably to my enjoyment of the disklavier.
>
> Tom
>
> yamahamale wrote:
>
> >Hi Tom, I didn't mean to offend you by saying "people out there"
> >Maybe I should have investigated the posts a little more closely.
> >Sorry about that. I was hoping I had found a program to use. The
> >"Teach Me Piano" sounded ideal but it dosn't seem like this would
be a
> >program to have if it has so many bugs. I was anticipating on
finding
> >that there would be a lot of excellent software on this subject.
I've
> >been playing , on and off, since I was a child. Thought I'd find
some
> >good software to help me get my bearings back again with timing
and
> >notes. I have an SY77 but haven't delved into software or touched
the
> >SY in a couple of years. Now that I've got more time and waiting
for a
> >Disklavier to arrive, I thought this would be the perfect time to
> >start shopping the software selections. I'm looking at printing,
> >transcribing, mixing, editing etc.
> > Curious as to why they haven't fixed the bugs. You'd think it
would
> >be easy for them. It's a shame cause the features it has sounds
like
> >it would be a great program. Maybe you are right and the speed of
the
> >informaion flow is too great for the computer to process, causing
the
> >bugs to happen. Have you tried it on one of the newer and faster
> >chips that are out? They've come a long way on speed in the past
few
> >years.
> >Jeff
> >
> >
> >--- In disklavier@y..., Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@n...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Jeff,
> >>
> >>I think I am the only "people" talking about the bugs in
Voyetra's
> >>"Teach Me Piano" software. The bugs in this software do not crash
> >>
> >>
> >your
> >
> >
> >>computer. I actually made a list of all of the bugs that I had
> >>identified in the program about 1.5 years ago and sent it to
> >>
> >>
> >Voyetra,
> >
> >
> >>but they chose to ignore it and introduced a "Deluxe" edition of
> >>
> >>
> >"Teach
> >
> >
> >>me Piano" which only added some games and a few other features
> >>
> >>
> >mostly
> >
> >
> >>targeted at children while leaving all of the lessons in the
> >>
> >>
> >original
> >
> >
> >>version unchanged in the Deluxe edition. Unfortunately, this
meant
> >>
> >>
> >that
> >
> >
> >>the bugs are still present.
> >>
> >>"Teach Me Piano" is capable of working with any midi instrument,
> >>including the disklavier, to "grade" a students performance. You
> >>
> >>
> >are
> >
> >
> >>graded on both your rhythm accuracy and on your pitch accuracy.
In
> >>other words you are graded on whether you played the correct
notes
> >>
> >>
> >and
> >
> >
> >>played them with the correct timing as specified by the time
> >>
> >>
> >signature
> >
> >
> >>of the piece. This feature will consistently report very low
scores
> >>
> >>
> >(on
> >
> >
> >>the order of 30-40%) when you are playing both hands and the
music
> >>
> >>
> >has
> >
> >
> >>any degree of complexity. It simply does not matter how well you
> >>
> >>
> >play
> >
> >
> >>the piece, it will not be reflected in your "score". However, if
> >>
> >>
> >you
> >
> >
> >>play one hand alone and the music is not too complex, the scoring
> >>provides a reasonable indication of your performance quality.
This
> >>
> >>
> >may
> >
> >
> >>not be a bug so much as a limitation of the midi information that
> >>
> >>
> >can be
> >
> >
> >>returned by the disklavier and the ability of your lap top
computer
> >>
> >>
> >to
> >
> >
> >>correctly process that information in real time. I have found
> >>
> >>
> >similar
> >
> >
> >>scoring problems with Adventus' Piano Suite Premiere software.
> >>
> >>Other bugs within "Teach Me Piano" that I recall are one of the
> >>
> >>
> >musical
> >
> >
> >>selections being left out of the Song Book, occasional notation
> >>
> >>
> >errors
> >
> >
> >>where the note shown in the musical selection is not the correct
> >>
> >>
> >note,
> >
> >
> >> the fact that in Performance Mode (where you are playing along
to
> >>
> >>
> >an
> >
> >
> >>instrumental accompaniment) the page turn anticipation feature
does
> >>
> >>
> >not
> >
> >
> >>work, and other similar errors. Interestingly enough, when you
are
> >>being graded on pitch, if you play the correct note it is scored
> >>correctly whereas if you play the note in the music appearing on
> >>
> >>
> >screen,
> >
> >
> >>you will receive an error. You would think it would have been an
> >>
> >>
> >easy
> >
> >
> >>thing to have corrected these errors in the notation.
> >>
> >>If you are interested in a detailed listing of the errors
in "Teach
> >>
> >>
> >Me
> >
> >
> >>Piano", I'll be happy to send you a copy of the letter (as a Word
> >>document) that I sent to Voyetra about 1.5 years ago.
> >>
> >>Tom
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>yamahamale wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I'm wondering what are these bugs that are in Voyetra "Teach Me
> >>>
> >>>
> >Piano"
> >
> >
> >>>that people are talking about. Is it something that will crash
the
> >>>computer over and over? Is it in every lesson or most? Thanks,
Jeff
> >>>
> >>>--- In disklavier@y..., Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@n...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>There are piano instruction software packages available other
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >than
> >
> >
> >>>>Voyetra's "Teach me Piano" which you may also wish to explore.
> >>>>
> >>>>Of all of the piano instruction packages that I have
considered, I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>like
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>the Voyetra "Teach Me Piano" package best because: I have
spoken
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>personally about a year ago with Mr.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hugh Berberich who designed the "Teach me Piano" musical
course,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>and he
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>and I both have tried hard to get Voyetra to expand this
package
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >and
> >
> >
> >>>>also to correct some bugs that are in the program.
Unfortunately,
> >>>>Voyetra seems to have little interest in correcting the
software
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>bugs.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Nonetheless, this is still a very worthwhile introduction to
the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>piano
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>for serious students.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Tom
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
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