I own a Yamaha MX100B for about 6 years now. I do not use MIDI, I only use it to record/playback, as well as practice 4 hands pieces. I can only play classical music. From personal experience I can tell you that I am very happy with the Disklavier for practicing purposes, but found some limitations in the accuracy of the recording/playback. Not in the 16-key limitation, but in the timing of the keys and the volume accuracy. (You can play notes softer yourself then the Disklavier can reproduce). Last week I was fortunate enough to find a dealer in Miami that would setup a DC7PRO. I played it and found none of the limitations experienced in my own MX100B. So if you value extreme accuracy of reproduction of human playing, try this one out, because it is far superior to the already excellent non-pro models. No noticable timing differences in chords, extremely low volume play possible, it really makes a difference, if you know what to look for (or hear for I should say). See if you can find a dealer to set one up and try it. Regards, Winfried Curacao, Netherlands Antilles. Hoffman, Steve wrote: > Prior to buying a Disklavier about a year ago, I made a very extensive > research of the market. My final conclusion was that even though the > Disklavier was more expensive, it was worth it. Since I am not wealthy > enough to have the luxury of not buying the best the first time, I decided > to go with Yamaha. > > 1. The Disklavier was far more advanced than any other payer available. > It has more capabilities than any single person would need. > 2. With regard to memory: Midi files are very compact. You can get a > lot of music on one 1.44 MB floppy disk. And if that is not enough, it is > very easy to connect your PC/MAC to the Disklavier and be able to play > directly from your hard disk. If your PC is connected to the Internet you > can also play directly from there, and trust me, you could listen to music > from the Internet all your life and not have to hear the same thing twice. > 3. The Disklavier also has an internal hard disk, which I do not use > because it does not have any means of sorting the songs, and quickly finding > something specific. > 4. You say that the Baldwin ConcertMaster can store 10,000 songs. What > you need to ask your self is how you are going to pick and FIND the single > song that you desire to hear. > 5. With regard to polyphony. It is true that the Disklavier is limited > to 16 keys. I do not know about you but I only have 10 fingers, and even if > playing a duet, the chances of 2 people playing more that 16 keys > simultaneously must be quite rare. Besides this, most people will not even > be able to tell the difference if a few keys are dropped. > 6. Look at all the differences between the pianos. Not just one item. > > I recommend you talk with Dave LeeRight at 510-581-1660 or > DLeewright@... <mailto:DLeewright@...> He is an expert. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony J. Messana [mailto:Tony@...] > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 6:40 AM > To: disklavier@egroups.com > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Evaluating options > > I have never looked at that model but have the Pianodisc > 128+ which allows > you to hook up a CD player containing as many songs as you > can fit on there. > I am happy with my PDS system but wish I would have figured > out before I > bought it that you can add the system to any piano, new, > used, upright, > grand, whatever. It would have saved me some money by > buying a used baby > grand and installing the system instead of going out to > purchase a new piano > with the system already on it. > The Pianodisc can play almost any other brand disc and it is > really easy to > create your own midi's and just pop the disk or CD in. I > also have the > symphony option which plays background music and chorus. I > have actually > never listened to or seen any other system so I have no idea > which one is > best. All I can tell you is that I love mine. > > P.S. Does anyone know if there is a system or development > that will allow a > voice to play along with the piano? It would be like having > a concert hall > in your home. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark A. Fontana [mailto:mfontana@...] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 10:34 PM > To: disklavier@egroups.com > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Evaluating options > > Barry wrote: > > > I just recently started researching options for a player > grand piano. > > Disklavier was the first I looked at. > > > > Has anyone looked into or know anything about Baldwin > ConcertMaster? It > > looks good and has a 1 gig hard drive to store up to > 10,000 songs. > > > > Any direction you can provide would be greatly > appreciated. > > I am considering the ConcertMaster as well. The primary > advantage it has > over the Disklavier is the capability to play 32 notes > simultaneously > versus the Disklavier's 16 (the Disklavier also comes in a > "Pro" series > that may not have this limitation-- anybody know?) In my > case, I could > use the extra polyphony since I like playing MIDI files > encoded from > reproducing piano rolls. Quite a few of those require 16+ > note polyphony. > > On the other hand, the Disklavier has a technical edge over > the > ConcertMaster in several ways: > > - 128-position partial pedaling, record and playback > (ConcertMaster is simply on/off pedaling) > > - far more accurate recording capabilities, using optical > shutters > on the hammer shanks to measure hammer velocity > (ConcertMaster > uses an under-key record strip like the PianoDisc > system) > > - self-calibration; the Disklavier can adjust the solenoid > drivers > based upon feedback from the hammer shank sensors, to > compensate > for irregularities in the action's mechanics etc. > > Apparently the ConcertMaster is really just a QRS > Pianomation system > in a Baldwin piano with a customized control unit. > > What I would really like to see is a Yamaha U-3 or U-5 with > Disklavier > or Disklavier Pro installed. Mark Wisner at Yamaha told me > there are > no plans to make a 52" upright Disklavier, however. As for > the Pro option, > I have yet to see a Disklavier Pro in person. A prominent > Yamaha dealer > shooed me away when I asked about it, saying that those > models are never > displayed in stores and that "customers who truly require a > Pro series > unit already know they need it so there is no need for a > demo". Well! > > -- > Mark A. 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[disklavier] Re: Evaluating options
2000-01-28 by winfried@attglobal.net