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2000-01-27 by Bddingman@aol.com
I just recently started researching options for a player grand piano. Disklavier was the first I looked at. Has anyone looked into or know anything about Baldwin ConcertMaster? It looks good and has a 1 gig hard drive to store up to 10,000 songs. Any direction you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Barry
2000-01-27 by DNTAMM@aol.com
I would be interested in the comparisons between these two brands also.
2000-01-27 by Mark A. Fontana
Barry wrote:
> I just recently started researching options for a player grand piano.
> Disklavier was the first I looked at.
>
> Has anyone looked into or know anything about Baldwin ConcertMaster? It
> looks good and has a 1 gig hard drive to store up to 10,000 songs.
>
> Any direction you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
I am considering the ConcertMaster as well. The primary advantage it has
over the Disklavier is the capability to play 32 notes simultaneously
versus the Disklavier's 16 (the Disklavier also comes in a "Pro" series
that may not have this limitation-- anybody know?) In my case, I could
use the extra polyphony since I like playing MIDI files encoded from
reproducing piano rolls. Quite a few of those require 16+ note polyphony.
On the other hand, the Disklavier has a technical edge over the
ConcertMaster in several ways:
- 128-position partial pedaling, record and playback
(ConcertMaster is simply on/off pedaling)
- far more accurate recording capabilities, using optical shutters
on the hammer shanks to measure hammer velocity (ConcertMaster
uses an under-key record strip like the PianoDisc system)
- self-calibration; the Disklavier can adjust the solenoid drivers
based upon feedback from the hammer shank sensors, to compensate
for irregularities in the action's mechanics etc.
Apparently the ConcertMaster is really just a QRS Pianomation system
in a Baldwin piano with a customized control unit.
What I would really like to see is a Yamaha U-3 or U-5 with Disklavier
or Disklavier Pro installed. Mark Wisner at Yamaha told me there are
no plans to make a 52" upright Disklavier, however. As for the Pro option,
I have yet to see a Disklavier Pro in person. A prominent Yamaha dealer
shooed me away when I asked about it, saying that those models are never
displayed in stores and that "customers who truly require a Pro series
unit already know they need it so there is no need for a demo". Well!
--
Mark A. Fontana
Minneapolis, MN2000-01-27 by Anthony J. Messana
I have never looked at that model but have the Pianodisc 128+ which allows you to hook up a CD player containing as many songs as you can fit on there. I am happy with my PDS system but wish I would have figured out before I bought it that you can add the system to any piano, new, used, upright, grand, whatever. It would have saved me some money by buying a used baby grand and installing the system instead of going out to purchase a new piano with the system already on it. The Pianodisc can play almost any other brand disc and it is really easy to create your own midi's and just pop the disk or CD in. I also have the symphony option which plays background music and chorus. I have actually never listened to or seen any other system so I have no idea which one is best. All I can tell you is that I love mine. P.S. Does anyone know if there is a system or development that will allow a voice to play along with the piano? It would be like having a concert hall in your home.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A. Fontana [mailto:mfontana@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 10:34 PM
To: disklavier@egroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Evaluating options
Barry wrote:
> I just recently started researching options for a player grand piano.
> Disklavier was the first I looked at.
>
> Has anyone looked into or know anything about Baldwin ConcertMaster? It
> looks good and has a 1 gig hard drive to store up to 10,000 songs.
>
> Any direction you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
I am considering the ConcertMaster as well. The primary advantage it has
over the Disklavier is the capability to play 32 notes simultaneously
versus the Disklavier's 16 (the Disklavier also comes in a "Pro" series
that may not have this limitation-- anybody know?) In my case, I could
use the extra polyphony since I like playing MIDI files encoded from
reproducing piano rolls. Quite a few of those require 16+ note polyphony.
On the other hand, the Disklavier has a technical edge over the
ConcertMaster in several ways:
- 128-position partial pedaling, record and playback
(ConcertMaster is simply on/off pedaling)
- far more accurate recording capabilities, using optical shutters
on the hammer shanks to measure hammer velocity (ConcertMaster
uses an under-key record strip like the PianoDisc system)
- self-calibration; the Disklavier can adjust the solenoid drivers
based upon feedback from the hammer shank sensors, to compensate
for irregularities in the action's mechanics etc.
Apparently the ConcertMaster is really just a QRS Pianomation system
in a Baldwin piano with a customized control unit.
What I would really like to see is a Yamaha U-3 or U-5 with Disklavier
or Disklavier Pro installed. Mark Wisner at Yamaha told me there are
no plans to make a 52" upright Disklavier, however. As for the Pro option,
I have yet to see a Disklavier Pro in person. A prominent Yamaha dealer
shooed me away when I asked about it, saying that those models are never
displayed in stores and that "customers who truly require a Pro series
unit already know they need it so there is no need for a demo". Well!
--
Mark A. Fontana
Minneapolis, MN
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Prior to buying a Disklavier about a year ago, I made a very extensive research of the market. My final conclusion was that even though the Disklavier was more expensive, it was worth it. Since I am not wealthy enough to have the luxury of not buying the best the first time, I decided to go with Yamaha. 1. The Disklavier was far more advanced than any other payer available. It has more capabilities than any single person would need. 2. With regard to memory: Midi files are very compact. You can get a lot of music on one 1.44 MB floppy disk. And if that is not enough, it is very easy to connect your PC/MAC to the Disklavier and be able to play directly from your hard disk. If your PC is connected to the Internet you can also play directly from there, and trust me, you could listen to music from the Internet all your life and not have to hear the same thing twice. 3. The Disklavier also has an internal hard disk, which I do not use because it does not have any means of sorting the songs, and quickly finding something specific. 4. You say that the Baldwin ConcertMaster can store 10,000 songs. What you need to ask your self is how you are going to pick and FIND the single song that you desire to hear. 5. With regard to polyphony. It is true that the Disklavier is limited to 16 keys. I do not know about you but I only have 10 fingers, and even if playing a duet, the chances of 2 people playing more that 16 keys simultaneously must be quite rare. Besides this, most people will not even be able to tell the difference if a few keys are dropped. 6. Look at all the differences between the pianos. Not just one item. I recommend you talk with Dave LeeRight at 510-581-1660 or DLeewright@... <mailto:DLeewright@...> He is an expert. Steve
-----Original Message----- From: Anthony J. Messana [mailto:Tony@...] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 6:40 AM To: disklavier@egroups.com Subject: [disklavier] Re: Evaluating options I have never looked at that model but have the Pianodisc 128+ which allows you to hook up a CD player containing as many songs as you can fit on there. I am happy with my PDS system but wish I would have figured out before I bought it that you can add the system to any piano, new, used, upright, grand, whatever. It would have saved me some money by buying a used baby grand and installing the system instead of going out to purchase a new piano with the system already on it. The Pianodisc can play almost any other brand disc and it is really easy to create your own midi's and just pop the disk or CD in. I also have the symphony option which plays background music and chorus. I have actually never listened to or seen any other system so I have no idea which one is best. All I can tell you is that I love mine. P.S. Does anyone know if there is a system or development that will allow a voice to play along with the piano? It would be like having a concert hall in your home. -----Original Message----- From: Mark A. Fontana [mailto:mfontana@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 10:34 PM To: disklavier@egroups.com Subject: [disklavier] Re: Evaluating options Barry wrote: > I just recently started researching options for a player grand piano. > Disklavier was the first I looked at. > > Has anyone looked into or know anything about Baldwin ConcertMaster? It > looks good and has a 1 gig hard drive to store up to 10,000 songs. > > Any direction you can provide would be greatly appreciated. I am considering the ConcertMaster as well. The primary advantage it has over the Disklavier is the capability to play 32 notes simultaneously versus the Disklavier's 16 (the Disklavier also comes in a "Pro" series that may not have this limitation-- anybody know?) In my case, I could use the extra polyphony since I like playing MIDI files encoded from reproducing piano rolls. Quite a few of those require 16+ note polyphony. On the other hand, the Disklavier has a technical edge over the ConcertMaster in several ways: - 128-position partial pedaling, record and playback (ConcertMaster is simply on/off pedaling) - far more accurate recording capabilities, using optical shutters on the hammer shanks to measure hammer velocity (ConcertMaster uses an under-key record strip like the PianoDisc system) - self-calibration; the Disklavier can adjust the solenoid drivers based upon feedback from the hammer shank sensors, to compensate for irregularities in the action's mechanics etc. Apparently the ConcertMaster is really just a QRS Pianomation system in a Baldwin piano with a customized control unit. What I would really like to see is a Yamaha U-3 or U-5 with Disklavier or Disklavier Pro installed. Mark Wisner at Yamaha told me there are no plans to make a 52" upright Disklavier, however. As for the Pro option, I have yet to see a Disklavier Pro in person. A prominent Yamaha dealer shooed me away when I asked about it, saying that those models are never displayed in stores and that "customers who truly require a Pro series unit already know they need it so there is no need for a demo". Well! -- Mark A. Fontana Minneapolis, MN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Post a message, send it to: disklavier@... To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: disklavier-unsubscribe@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WEMedia.com empowers persons with disabilities to build a strong and vibrant community. http://click.egroups.com/1/687/1/_/156037/_/948947701/ -- Check out your group's private Chat room -- http://www.egroups.com/ChatPage?listName=disklavier&m=1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Post a message, send it to: disklavier@... To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: disklavier-unsubscribe@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WEMedia.com empowers persons with disabilities to build a strong and vibrant community. http://click.egroups.com/1/687/1/_/156037/_/948984032/ -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! -- http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=disklavier&m=1
2000-01-27 by Hoffman, Steve
Prior to buying a Disklavier about a year ago, I made a very extensive research of the market. My final conclusion was that even though the Disklavier was more expensive, it was worth it. Since I am not wealthy enough to have the luxury of not buying the best the first time, I decided to go with Yamaha. 1. The Disklavier was far more advanced than any other payer available. It has more capabilities than any single person would need. 2. With regard to memory: Midi files are very compact. You can get a lot of music on one 1.44 MB floppy disk. And if that is not enough, it is very easy to connect your PC/MAC to the Disklavier and be able to play directly from your hard disk. If your PC is connected to the Internet you can also play directly from there, and trust me, you could listen to music from the Internet all your life and not have to hear the same thing twice. 3. The Disklavier also has an internal hard disk, which I do not use because it does not have any means of sorting the songs, and quickly finding something specific. 4. You say that the Baldwin ConcertMaster can store 10,000 songs. What you need to ask your self is how you are going to pick and FIND the single song that you desire to hear. 5. With regard to polyphony. It is true that the Disklavier is limited to 16 keys. I do not know about you but I only have 10 fingers, and even if playing a duet, the chances of 2 people playing more that 16 keys simultaneously must be quite rare. Besides this, most people will not even be able to tell the difference if a few keys are dropped. 6. Look at all the differences between the pianos. Not just one item. I recommend you talk with Dave LeeRight at 510-581-1660 or DLeewright@... <mailto:DLeewright@...> <mailto:DLeewright@... <mailto:DLeewright@...> > He is an expert. Steve
-----Original Message----- From: Anthony J. Messana [mailto:Tony@...] <mailto:[mailto:Tony@...]> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 6:40 AM To: disklavier@egroups.com <mailto:disklavier@egroups.com> Subject: [disklavier] Re: Evaluating options I have never looked at that model but have the Pianodisc 128+ which allows you to hook up a CD player containing as many songs as you can fit on there. I am happy with my PDS system but wish I would have figured out before I bought it that you can add the system to any piano, new, used, upright, grand, whatever. It would have saved me some money by buying a used baby grand and installing the system instead of going out to purchase a new piano with the system already on it. The Pianodisc can play almost any other brand disc and it is really easy to create your own midi's and just pop the disk or CD in. I also have the symphony option which plays background music and chorus. I have actually never listened to or seen any other system so I have no idea which one is best. All I can tell you is that I love mine. P.S. Does anyone know if there is a system or development that will allow a voice to play along with the piano? It would be like having a concert hall in your home. -----Original Message----- From: Mark A. Fontana [mailto:mfontana@...] <mailto:[mailto:mfontana@...]> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 10:34 PM To: disklavier@egroups.com <mailto:disklavier@egroups.com> Subject: [disklavier] Re: Evaluating options Barry wrote: > I just recently started researching options for a player grand piano. > Disklavier was the first I looked at. > > Has anyone looked into or know anything about Baldwin ConcertMaster? It > looks good and has a 1 gig hard drive to store up to 10,000 songs. > > Any direction you can provide would be greatly appreciated. I am considering the ConcertMaster as well. The primary advantage it has over the Disklavier is the capability to play 32 notes simultaneously versus the Disklavier's 16 (the Disklavier also comes in a "Pro" series that may not have this limitation-anybody know?) In my case, I could use the extra polyphony since I like playing MIDI files encoded from reproducing piano rolls. Quite a few of those require 16+ note polyphony. On the other hand, the Disklavier has a technical edge over the ConcertMaster in several ways: * 128-position partial pedaling, record and playback (ConcertMaster is simply on/off pedaling) * far more accurate recording capabilities, using optical shutters on the hammer shanks to measure hammer velocity (ConcertMaster uses an under-key record strip like the PianoDisc system) * self-calibration; the Disklavier can adjust the solenoid drivers based upon feedback from the hammer shank sensors, to compensate for irregularities in the action's mechanics etc. Apparently the ConcertMaster is really just a QRS Pianomation system in a Baldwin piano with a customized control unit. What I would really like to see is a Yamaha U-3 or U-5 with Disklavier or Disklavier Pro installed. Mark Wisner at Yamaha told me there are no plans to make a 52" upright Disklavier, however. As for the Pro option, I have yet to see a Disklavier Pro in person. A prominent Yamaha dealer shooed me away when I asked about it, saying that those models are never displayed in stores and that "customers who truly require a Pro series unit already know they need it so there is no need for a demo". Well! -- Mark A. 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2000-01-27 by SSanders@aol.com
In a message dated 1/27/2000 3:47:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, mfontana@... writes: << As for the Pro option, I have yet to see a Disklavier Pro in person. A prominent Yamaha dealer shooed me away when I asked about it, saying that those models are never displayed in stores and that "customers who truly require a Pro series unit already know they need it so there is no need for a demo". Well! >> Funny, I got a similar response at one of the local dealers near me. The dealer said he would never stock one of them. This in a city of 750,000. He also questioned why I would want one. Oh, well -- some just don't get it. I would definitely want to try out a Pro and compare it's abilities with my current Disklavier (DC6 Mk II) before I would ever agree to trade up and plunk down the serious chunk of change needed. I am also really attracted to the new Silent System feature on the newer Disklavier lines. Here's the blurb from the Yamaha website for those of you not familiar with this feature: "Built-in Silent System Offers Privacy and Aids Multi-Track Recording The proprietary Yamaha Grand Silent System adds a versatile new dimension to the DC6PRO. With the touch of a button, you can prevent the hammers from striking the strings, while generating real-time digital piano reproduction through headphones. Using 30 megabytes of memory, the digital piano even recreates the harmonic resonance that results from incremental use of the sustain pedal." The sampled grand sound sounded quite good to me on headphones when I tried it on one of the upright models. The idea of being able to practice on my Yamaha grand in the middle of the night without waking others, yet still having the acoustic piano touch response, is extremely appealing to me. If I was buying new, or if there truly was a trade-in option that didn't require as much cash as I've figured I would need to throw at it, I would buy a Disklavier Grand Pro with the Silent System. But until I hit the lottery, it's probably not in my future. I can dream, though.
2000-01-27 by Mike McGregor
"anthony j. messana" <ton-@...> wrote: e. > > P.S. Does anyone know if there is a system or development that will allow a > voice to play along with the piano? It would be like having a concert hall > in your home. > >QRS Pianomation as a vocalist series, on CD. You'd have to buy a player or interface for it. Has been some exchanges of msgs on DUG on that topic in the last few days. Mike McGregor
2000-01-27 by Hoffman, Steve
I have a DC-3 with the silent option, and just wanted to let you know that the following description is very correct. As a matter of fact when I first got it, I put on the headphones and turned on the silent feature. For some reason, the piano continued to play acoustically (not silent). Only after me been puzzled for a while I realized that the sound from the headphones was so real that I did not even realize that the piano was actually silent all this time. Steve.
-----Original Message----- From: SSanders@... [mailto:SSanders@...] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 11:59 AM To: disklavier@egroups.com Subject: [disklavier] Re: Evaluating options In a message dated 1/27/2000 3:47:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, mfontana@... writes: << As for the Pro option, I have yet to see a Disklavier Pro in person. A prominent Yamaha dealer shooed me away when I asked about it, saying that those models are never displayed in stores and that "customers who truly require a Pro series unit already know they need it so there is no need for a demo". Well! >> Funny, I got a similar response at one of the local dealers near me. The dealer said he would never stock one of them. This in a city of 750,000. He also questioned why I would want one. Oh, well -- some just don't get it. I would definitely want to try out a Pro and compare it's abilities with my current Disklavier (DC6 Mk II) before I would ever agree to trade up and plunk down the serious chunk of change needed. I am also really attracted to the new Silent System feature on the newer Disklavier lines. Here's the blurb from the Yamaha website for those of you not familiar with this feature: "Built-in Silent System Offers Privacy and Aids Multi-Track Recording The proprietary Yamaha Grand Silent System adds a versatile new dimension to the DC6PRO. With the touch of a button, you can prevent the hammers from striking the strings, while generating real-time digital piano reproduction through headphones. Using 30 megabytes of memory, the digital piano even recreates the harmonic resonance that results from incremental use of the sustain pedal." The sampled grand sound sounded quite good to me on headphones when I tried it on one of the upright models. The idea of being able to practice on my Yamaha grand in the middle of the night without waking others, yet still having the acoustic piano touch response, is extremely appealing to me. If I was buying new, or if there truly was a trade-in option that didn't require as much cash as I've figured I would need to throw at it, I would buy a Disklavier Grand Pro with the Silent System. But until I hit the lottery, it's probably not in my future. I can dream, though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Post a message, send it to: disklavier@... To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: disklavier-unsubscribe@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WEMedia.com empowers persons with disabilities to build a strong and vibrant community. http://click.egroups.com/1/687/1/_/156037/_/949003136/ -- Create a poll/survey for your group! -- http://www.egroups.com/vote?listname=disklavier&m=1
2000-01-28 by winfried@attglobal.net
I own a Yamaha MX100B for about 6 years now. I do not use MIDI, I only use it to record/playback, as well as practice 4 hands pieces. I can only play classical music. From personal experience I can tell you that I am very happy with the Disklavier for practicing purposes, but found some limitations in the accuracy of the recording/playback. Not in the 16-key limitation, but in the timing of the keys and the volume accuracy. (You can play notes softer yourself then the Disklavier can reproduce). Last week I was fortunate enough to find a dealer in Miami that would setup a DC7PRO. I played it and found none of the limitations experienced in my own MX100B. So if you value extreme accuracy of reproduction of human playing, try this one out, because it is far superior to the already excellent non-pro models. No noticable timing differences in chords, extremely low volume play possible, it really makes a difference, if you know what to look for (or hear for I should say). See if you can find a dealer to set one up and try it. Regards, Winfried Curacao, Netherlands Antilles. Hoffman, Steve wrote:
> Prior to buying a Disklavier about a year ago, I made a very extensive > research of the market. My final conclusion was that even though the > Disklavier was more expensive, it was worth it. Since I am not wealthy > enough to have the luxury of not buying the best the first time, I decided > to go with Yamaha. > > 1. The Disklavier was far more advanced than any other payer available. > It has more capabilities than any single person would need. > 2. With regard to memory: Midi files are very compact. You can get a > lot of music on one 1.44 MB floppy disk. And if that is not enough, it is > very easy to connect your PC/MAC to the Disklavier and be able to play > directly from your hard disk. If your PC is connected to the Internet you > can also play directly from there, and trust me, you could listen to music > from the Internet all your life and not have to hear the same thing twice. > 3. The Disklavier also has an internal hard disk, which I do not use > because it does not have any means of sorting the songs, and quickly finding > something specific. > 4. You say that the Baldwin ConcertMaster can store 10,000 songs. What > you need to ask your self is how you are going to pick and FIND the single > song that you desire to hear. > 5. With regard to polyphony. It is true that the Disklavier is limited > to 16 keys. I do not know about you but I only have 10 fingers, and even if > playing a duet, the chances of 2 people playing more that 16 keys > simultaneously must be quite rare. Besides this, most people will not even > be able to tell the difference if a few keys are dropped. > 6. Look at all the differences between the pianos. Not just one item. > > I recommend you talk with Dave LeeRight at 510-581-1660 or > DLeewright@... <mailto:DLeewright@...> He is an expert. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony J. Messana [mailto:Tony@...] > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 6:40 AM > To: disklavier@egroups.com > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Evaluating options > > I have never looked at that model but have the Pianodisc > 128+ which allows > you to hook up a CD player containing as many songs as you > can fit on there. > I am happy with my PDS system but wish I would have figured > out before I > bought it that you can add the system to any piano, new, > used, upright, > grand, whatever. It would have saved me some money by > buying a used baby > grand and installing the system instead of going out to > purchase a new piano > with the system already on it. > The Pianodisc can play almost any other brand disc and it is > really easy to > create your own midi's and just pop the disk or CD in. I > also have the > symphony option which plays background music and chorus. I > have actually > never listened to or seen any other system so I have no idea > which one is > best. All I can tell you is that I love mine. > > P.S. Does anyone know if there is a system or development > that will allow a > voice to play along with the piano? It would be like having > a concert hall > in your home. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark A. Fontana [mailto:mfontana@...] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 10:34 PM > To: disklavier@egroups.com > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Evaluating options > > Barry wrote: > > > I just recently started researching options for a player > grand piano. > > Disklavier was the first I looked at. > > > > Has anyone looked into or know anything about Baldwin > ConcertMaster? It > > looks good and has a 1 gig hard drive to store up to > 10,000 songs. > > > > Any direction you can provide would be greatly > appreciated. > > I am considering the ConcertMaster as well. The primary > advantage it has > over the Disklavier is the capability to play 32 notes > simultaneously > versus the Disklavier's 16 (the Disklavier also comes in a > "Pro" series > that may not have this limitation-- anybody know?) In my > case, I could > use the extra polyphony since I like playing MIDI files > encoded from > reproducing piano rolls. Quite a few of those require 16+ > note polyphony. > > On the other hand, the Disklavier has a technical edge over > the > ConcertMaster in several ways: > > - 128-position partial pedaling, record and playback > (ConcertMaster is simply on/off pedaling) > > - far more accurate recording capabilities, using optical > shutters > on the hammer shanks to measure hammer velocity > (ConcertMaster > uses an under-key record strip like the PianoDisc > system) > > - self-calibration; the Disklavier can adjust the solenoid > drivers > based upon feedback from the hammer shank sensors, to > compensate > for irregularities in the action's mechanics etc. > > Apparently the ConcertMaster is really just a QRS > Pianomation system > in a Baldwin piano with a customized control unit. > > What I would really like to see is a Yamaha U-3 or U-5 with > Disklavier > or Disklavier Pro installed. Mark Wisner at Yamaha told me > there are > no plans to make a 52" upright Disklavier, however. As for > the Pro option, > I have yet to see a Disklavier Pro in person. A prominent > Yamaha dealer > shooed me away when I asked about it, saying that those > models are never > displayed in stores and that "customers who truly require a > Pro series > unit already know they need it so there is no need for a > demo". Well! > > -- > Mark A. 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2000-02-03 by Babycak901@aol.com
To those interested, I got a DC3PRO last Sept. and am very much in love with it. I hope that you who have looked for a demo can find one to try. You won't believe the difference. I played several baby grands as well as a 7 and 9 ft. grands. As soon as I played the 6'1" DC3PRO, I knew instantly that I had to have it. I am not a concert pianist or anything, and it is probably much more than I needed, however the silent feature is great and the sound is so realistic that I too didn't know that the acoustic piano was playing the first few times I used it because the sound was so perfect. In my opinion it was like comparing a honda to a mercedes. I think it was well worth the extra money and am very glad that I went ahead and took the plunge instead of waiting and trading up. I urge you to find a dealer that sells the PRO models so that you can see for yourself. Bil