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Re: MIDI on CDs

2003-08-28 by a_zoghlin

I couldn't get the resulting wav's to play properly on my dcd1 / 
disklavier.

The key's play, but it's quite random - kind of like my 2 year old.

The idea is a great one - something Yamaha should provide.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, James Fry <linx@t...> wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Carol Beigel wrote:
> 
> > Hopefully someone with more knowlege than myself will tell you a 
solution.
> > My understanding of MIDI and Disklaviers is that MIDI files that 
come over
> > the internet, or appear on floppy disks can be manipulated or 
edited in
> > sequencer software, but MIDI on a CD (which is audio) needs to 
run through
> > an analog converter.  Although your piano can play MIDI from a 
CD, because
> > somewhere in that chain is a little black box like a MIDIman or a 
Yamaha CD
> > player with a converter already built-in, I do not know of a way 
to pull the
> > MIDI information off a CD.
> >
> > I, too, would like to know how to separate or extract the MIDI 
data from the
> > audio on a CD; and how to make my own CDs that have both audio 
and MIDI.
> 
> A while ago a member of the list posted a message about creating 
PianoDisc
> CD's which have the same effect as the yamaha ones. He wrote some 
software
> to create the special audio needed. I had a play around, and it 
works
> pretty damned well.
> 
> However, as far as I know Yamaha haven't made the specification of 
their
> format available, presumably because they want to keep the monopoly 
on
> Pianosoft titles. It shouldn't be too hard to decipher though - one
> could capture the midi output from a DCD1 into a midi recorder, and 
then
> analyse the original audio signal. I doubt it's a very complicated
> encoding, but it's a little beyond me.
> 
> This doesn't help with the original query of how to extract the 
data,
> but I've attached Mark's message for reference.
> 
> Regards,
> James
> 
> 
> -----
> 
> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:45:49 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Mark A. Fontana <mfontana@f...>
> Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: difference in CD and floppy drives
> 
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 PianoBench@a... wrote:
> 
> > Currently, Yamaha's CD feature in the Mark III and the DCD1 plays 
three
> > formats of MIDI encoded as audio: PianoSoft Plus Audio (Yamaha), 
QRS (or
> Baldwin
> > Concertmaster - same format), and PianoDisc. The Yamaha CD units 
also
> play
> > normal Audio CDs. They do not read MIDI files or data CD-ROMs of 
any
> kind.
> 
> 
> A few weeks ago, I posted a link to a software utility I've written
> which converts MIDI and ESEQ files into WAV files with PianoDisc-
style
> encoding.  The idea is that you burn the WAV files onto a CD-R 
using the
> CD authoring tool of your choice, then the resulting CD should play 
on
> the piano.
> 
> If the Mark III pianos are able to play PianoDisc CDs, it should be
> possible for Disklavier owners to make their own CDs using this tool
> (just make sure you select PianoDisc format).
> 
> Here's the link to the software again:
> 
>    http://dp70.dyndns.org/mid2pianocd/
> 
> If anyone tries this, please report back to the group on whether it 
was
> successful or not.
> 
> If this works, it should be possible to make homemade piano+audio 
CDs
> for the Disklavier using this approach, in conjunction with a decent
> audio editor like CoolEdit.
> 
> 
> Mark

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