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----- Original Message -----
From: David Broman <davbr@...>
To: <disklavier@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 4:19 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier midi delay


>
> >>
> I see, why not the "Silent" piano sample sound ( much better)?
> Shouldn't it respond just like the GM sound?
> <<
>
> Maybe you figured a way around this, but the only way I can get the
awesome
> "Silent" piano sample to play is if I configure the unit to respond via
real
> piano on a particular MIDI channel, and then push the Silent button.

Yeah - me too. By the way - how do you find the quality of your AUX audio
out (for amplification purposes)?  On my unit (a humble DC1S, same 'Silent'
sample as the Pros, I think), it's a 1/8" mini.  I must say it's the only
thing that I was somewhat disappointed in.  The signal-to-noise just isn't
that impressive.  In fact, I routinely bypass the internal tone generator
altogether, prefering instead to use MIDI to my external MU80 and then out
to my amp/speakers.  A much more cleaner sound to my ear.  I usually use the
Silent 30 Meg sample strictly for headphone use on the DKV - pretty much
what it was intended for anyway.

>
> If there's a way to invoke the Silent sample sound via Midi without going
> through the mechanical keys, I'd love to know about it!

Me too!! But, since the 'Silent' tone generator is separate from the DKV
control unit and not controlled by MIDI, I think we're out of luck.  Too bad
the sample isn't part of the base unit, but hey, maybe one day - nothing a
small upgrade couldn't fix.

>
>
> >>
> DC7 Pro has no midi thru.
> <<
>
> Oh, I was probably misremembering.  At the time I was probably using the
> THRU on a different box, and had the Yamaha at the end of the chain or
> something.
>
> >>
> I think so, for example, I'm playing a Roland 2080 module el. pno sound
> in silent mode: laggy...., and when I play with silent mode off, what
> comes up on the edit screen is late and notes are shorter. I've tested
> my other controllers ( Pc-88, Jv-80) w/ same midi cables and modules;
> no problem. Playing a simple trill gives it away since it plays back
> staccato in many cases. Not the way it sounded when i played it or
> pretty impossible for that matter.
> <<

This is strange.  You said you're using a Music Quest 8x8.  I assume you
route the DKV OUT to the patchbay?  How about if you run it direct to your
2080.  Still get the lag??  I guess since you don't have the problem with
your other controllers, it does seem to point to the DKV.

And the staccato - maybe the DKV is generating MIDI assuming it will be
played back on a DKV and therefore adjusting the MIDI timing to make it
"sound good"?.  This has to be the case.  Your sequencer confirms this.
Maybe the DKV isn't such a great controller after all.  But hey, first and
foremost it's not supposed to be, right?

Mark W. / Yamaha / Anyone - any further comments on this aspect??

>
> Yeah, that sounds pretty annoying!  Maybe Mark's idea of using the HOST
port
> will yield you better results, though I haven't tried that myself.  In
fact,
> it sounds like you have the same problem as I: using the TO HOST isn't
> really feasible, because we both need several MIDI OUT ports from the
> computer (more than 2), and I don't think the Yamaha's TO HOST port will
do
> that for us.

You could connect a serial cable from your computer to the Yamaha TO HOST,
and use another computer interface (USB, other MIDI) to connect to other
MIDI stuff.  You would need appropriate drivers for each of course, but
Cakewalk and Cubase both support multi devices, so managing devices on
mutltiple ports combined with TO HOST is possible.

Although the DKV does not have a THRU port, you can configure the OUT port
as a THRU to effectively give you another 16 MIDI channels.  32 channels on
two ports in total - 16 for internal use, 16 for external use.  You need to
use the TO HOST to do this.

Well, enough techno-speak - time to go make some music.