Carol and all:
Using XP I have been able to format my HD 1.44 disks and turn them into 720k disks. I do this by going to the dos prompt, typing format a: /T:80 /N:9. In order to successfully do this I have to use black tape and tape over the hole on the bottom of the disk. This then turns my 1.44 disks into 720k disks \u2013 ready to use in my Disklavier or DOU.
To answer your question about what NTFS is: NTFS is a more advanced File system for Windows. It came out when Windows NT was launched to address some of the security and performance issues of FAT. NTFS is an acronym which stands for NT (new technology) File System. To find out if your hard drive is using NTFS, go to Windows Explorer and Right click on your C-drive – go to Properties and under the \u201cGeneral\u201d tab should be the File System.
I\u2019ve never used giebler, but the disk that is created above is a 720k disk \u2013 so I would imagine it might work.
Also, please note that Windows XP has a compatibility mode that allows it to work as if it was Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows ME, Win2k (SP5) or Windows NT. To access this compatibility mode \u2013 create a shortcut on your desktop, right click the shortcut, go to Properties, then go to the Compatibility Tab. Here is where you can change the compatibility mode. You can even do this with DOS Prompt \u2013 so that the DOS Prompt will run in Win 95 mode. I would think that giebler would run with this compatibility mode using 720k disks, but I\u2019ve never really used it.
If someone could give me a real high level on what giebler does again\u2026..
Boy, it\u2019s nice to finally contribute to this group. I\u2019m Microsoft, IBM, Sun, and Cisco certified, but with the Disklavier \u2013 really a novice.
--Jason Stein
-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Beigel
[mailto:crbrpt@...]
Sent: Wednesday,
October 29, 2003 4:32 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] giebler
under xp
That is certainly an interesting theory! I know
when I installed a new hard
drive for my Windows 98 I used the FAT32.
What is NTFS? I have a Compaq
Evo with Windows XP Professional ; a very
expensive laptop, and it doesn't
do squat with any of these DOS utilities we have
been discussing. It runs
AnaDisk, but not Giebler. Won't format a
720k disk. Certainly won't run
the dkvcopy program. Taping over the holes
in the floppy disk doesn't help
either! I never got Giebler to work with
1.44 disks. So how come some users
of XP can does this and not others? How can
you tell how your XP system is
formatted?
Carol Beigel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chine-Chine Wang"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 29,
2003 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] giebler under xp
My theory is that Giebler might be able to
function under XP provided that
your hard drive's file system is formatted as
FAT32 instead of
NTFS. Windows XP can run a lot of DOS
programs, but since Giebler needs to
write the converted/copied files to the hard
drive, the problem probably
lies within DOS programs' inability to write on
NTFS partitions.
CCW
At 04:14 PM 10/29/2003, you
wrote:
>i do not understand
>
>i have a 1996 vintage giebler program for
yamaha file management that
>works under 95, 98 and me
>
>but in order for it to operate, the computer
must be in DOS mode,because
>it is a DOS program
>
>you have to get out of the windows desktop and
go to the c prompt
>
>please explain exactly how you are able to run
your program in XP
>
>do you run it from the disk?
>
>what is the program called and what version is
it?
>
>was it represented by giebler to be capable of
running in the xp
environment?
>
>what command do you type to execute?
>
>do you do it from the windows desktop
"run" box, or some other way?
>
>i would love to be able to use the giebler
program
>await your responses
>
>sheldon deluty
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jorge Fernandez Moreno
>;Sent: Oct 29, 2003 3:34 PM
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [disklavier] Re: Problem with
conversion using ESEQ2MIDI
>
>I have a giebler'r ultilies version that i
brought last june.
>I don´t think that the version is new.
>
>IT WORKS UNDER XP!
>
>But only with 2HD disks. (1.4 megs)
>
>I have used it a few times, mainly when I
download files from yamaha
>with the yamaha downloader that writes the
"special yamaha format"
>
>Extract indiviual files to HD and the convert
them to midi also with
>the giebler utility.
>;
>All this under XP.
>
>If the .FIL in not in a protectyed yamaha disk
I allways use
>SEQ2MIDI whith no problems.
>
>I hope this helps.
>
>--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com,
"Sheldon Deluty";
>wrote:
> > fyi, giebler's program absolutely
positively does NOT work under
>windows xp,
> > because xp has no true DOS mode
> >
> > you need any operating system other than
xp (95, 98, me) which can
>operate
> > in true DOS mode
> >
> > i have asked giebler myself, and he
either cannot or will not
>rewrite his
> > program to work under xp
> >
> > giebler works best with an old slower
computer
> >
> > i know this from personal experience
>; >
> > actually, with giebler you can transfer
filed from an eseq
>diskette to your
> > hard drive, convert them and then
transfer them back to a diskette
> >
> > sheldon deluty
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Welcyng
[mailto:rwelcyng@a...]
> > Sent: Monday, October 27,
2003 6:09 PM
> > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [disklavier]
Problem with conversion using ESEQ2MIDI
> >
> >
> > Sam, I've always used the
Giebler Utilities to do that job. See
> > www.giebler.com It's
not free, but it does the job reliably.
>With it,
> > you cannot copy an entire
Yamaha-protected Pianosoft diskette;
>however,
> > you can copy and convert
individual files.
> >;
> > For fun, I once tried the
ESEQ2MIDI program and it didn't work
>for me
> > either. Rather than
fight it, I continued to use Giebler which
>I had
> > used for years.
> >
> > If you have never worked
under DOS, you just need to follow
>Giebler's
> > instruction manual.
(If you cut your teeth on CP/M or DOS in
>the early
> > days, you're in for a retro
experience.)
> >
> >
> >
> > bpsafran wrote:
> > ; > Greetings:
> > >
> > > I want to convert some
eseq files that I purchased from Yamaha
>to
> > > Midi so that I can edit
and save them on my Clavinova. I tried
> > > using the ESEQ2MIDI
program on the files (extracted to my hard
>disk
> > > using the dkvcopy
program) but I get an error message from
>ESEQ2MIDI
> > > on each file that says
ESEQ file is corrupt.
> > > However, the files play
fine (from floppy disk) on my
>Clavinova,
> > > which reads both midi
and eseq formats.
> > >
> > > Anyone have any ideas
on how to fix the files so that
>ESEQ2MIDI will
> > > be able to do the
conversions?
> > > Are there any programs
that will do the conversions on the
>original
> > > disk itself (which is
not readable on a PC unless one uses the
> > > dkvcopy program).
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
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