For the record: There are no restrictions on discussing pricing (or much else) in this Yahoo group. I will defend, however, Yamaha's right to ban such discussions from the email group they sponsor and pay for. It is a manufacturer's duty to do everything possible to support their dealers and help improve their profit margins. Would you sign up as a dealer for a company that posted your product cost data on their website? I think not. Conversely it is our duty as consumers, to seek out the best available deal. There is, in fact, a "What I paid" database on our group website. Here's the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier/database?method=reportRows <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier/database?method=reportRows&tbl =2> &tbl=2. Currently 120 members have posted information there to help others make comparisons. Since we now have 1,100 active members, most of whom own disklaviers, I encourage more members to post their information there. I suggest checking this information first, rather than lazily posting a "how much should I pay question" to the group. You may or may not still a have question to post, but it will be a little more focused. It is also fine to post "piano for sale" or "piano wanted" type notices, but be sure to include a personal email link within the body of the posting, so all interested parties can continue the discussion with you off-line. Remember, if you just hit the "Reply" button, you are responding to all 1,100 members, who get too much mail already and don't want to follow your private negotiations. Just post the final sale info into the database. I'll also guarantee you that a lot more than 1,100 disklaviers buyers and sellers hanging around on e-bay and your results will be much better there. If you are new to this group and have simple questions that have probably been asked before, you may want to search the message archive. All 3,339 postings, dating back to our founding in November 1999 are available and there is a search tool. Searching for the word "price" matched hundred of postings. "DGC1A" matched 34 postings. You get the idea. -----Original Message----- From: ejduke2000@... [mailto:ejduke2000@...] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:44 AM To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com; Disklavier-owner@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Hang on a minute... I have the same problem understanding the groundrules. When I joined the group I was encouraged to post purchase prices on the web site. I find Mr. Bates to have lost touch with the intent of sharing information on the Internet. He seems to be slow on the uptake understanding the world is a global market and not a collection of independent regional markets. Sharing of prices and buying experiences is the norm. Most manufacturers and suppliers have recognized this and encourage the exchange. Yamaha...welcome to the 21st century. We need not go back to the old ways. Ed Duke Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/SIG=12ca6a9sf/M=267637.4116730.5333196.1261774/D=eg roupweb/S=1705032012:HM/EXP=1071236683/A=1853618/R=0/*http:/www.netflix. com/Default?mqso=60178338&partid=4116730> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=267637.4116730.5333196.1261774/D=egrou pmail/S=:HM/A=1853618/rand=943550413> To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to: disklavier-owner@... To reach our group's web site go to: http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier Todd's family web site was completely updated 01/15/03. It contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is: http://MuncyFamily.com THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: disklavier-unsubscribe@... Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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Price Discussions
2003-12-11 by Todd Muncy
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