Greetings Walter, Thanks for the report on what you do to improve midi files for use on the DKV. It sounds like nothing is really going to improve a thumping pedal. That was my suspicion. I was just hoping to include a function in my program if something could be described that would fix a problem with the files. Sounds like this is not the case. With all the adjusting that you do to velocities you might find my velocity adjusting program to be useful. You can define presets to adjust minimum and maximum levels as well as adding a general increase or decrease. You don't have to keep opening and closing files. Just direct the program to the folder containing files and all will be processed automatically. Once you figure out the presets that you need, you can save them and use them over and over. I will be updating and improving the program as I find things that need improving. You can find the latest version at: http://www.spencerserolls.com/VelMod/VelMod.zip Be sure to click on the help button for description as to how the program works. Saturday, January 3, 2004, 11:04:33 PM, you wrote: WS> Thank you Fred, Spencer and Piano Bench, WS> \ufffd\ufffd\ufffd\ufffd I will respond to your various comments (copied below) WS> all at once rather than separately to make it easier for you all WS> to follow. Maybe some others out there will benefit from some of WS> the information here. WS> \ufffd\ufffd\ufffd\ufffd Since my response is rather lengthy, I have included it WS> in an attached zip file along with some midi files that WS> demonstrate some of my points. They sound very nice too so maybe WS> those who are not that interested in the discussion will at least WS> enjoy the music! WS> -Walt WS> ------------------------ WS> To: "Walter Sharpe" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> WS> From: "Spencer Chase" <spencer@...>\ufffd Add to Address Book WS> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 00:09:40 -0800\ufffd WS> Subject: [disklavier] pedal thumping etc.\ufffd\ufffd\ufffd\ufffd\ufffd WS> \ufffd WS> Greetings Walter and Group, WS> I am writing utility programs to modify MIDI files. Is there WS> some agreement regarding what needs to be done to eliminate WS> duplicate track data etc for problems like pedal thumping? Is this WS> an issolated problem or do certain MIDI file conventions (I really WS> don't understand the need for duplicate pedal information to be in WS> files to begin with.) produce files that cause problems and is WS> there a need for utilities to remove or shift these events? WS> Most of the functions in my utilities are for electronic WS> piano rolls but I am hoping to add functions for use by DKV WS> owners. What sorts of functions are needed. I can easily add WS> functions like merging tracks. I already can do this and can fix WS> resulting overlaps but have not attempted to remove redundant WS> events. This is probably not difficult to do but is it necessary? WS> Does the DKV care if events are duplicated? WS> -------------------------- WS> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com WS> From: PianoBench@...\ufffd Add to Address Book WS> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 09:43:46 EST WS> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: 3 mysterious Disklavier WS> problems (Pedal Thump Revisited) WS> Good morning, everyone. WS> Walt, I think it is time to call Yamaha Piano Service WS> directly. You should not have to wait so long for your technician WS> to take care of this matter. WS> All pianos will have some level of noise due to their WS> mechanical nature. Your narrative seems to show that your WS> instrument is outside of normal parameters. WS> Yamaha Piano Service: (800) 854-1569 between 8:30-5:00 PST. WS> Push 2 at the first menu choice and 2 at the second menu choice. WS> I hasten to add, though, that I think the best test of your WS> instrument would be to see how it plays song files that were WS> recorded in realtime by a pianist on a Disklavier. The song files WS> from WS> www.parlorsongs.com were not recorded by a pianist on a WS> Disklavier. Although they may be enjoyable, they represent a WS> totally artificial creation. WS> Regards, WS> PianoBench WS> ---------------------- WS> o: disklavier@yahoogroups.com WS> From: "fkagel" <fkagel@...>\ufffd Add to Address Book WS> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 10:09:07 -0000 WS> Subject: [disklavier] Re: 3 mysterious Disklavier problems (Pedal Thump Revisited) WS> Walt, WS> Starting with the source, the 12th St Rag Midi file is WS> strictly on/off (up/down) for the sustain pedal, no ands, ifs, or WS> buts. Therefore, continuous (HP/Half Pedal) is a mute issue with WS> this particular file.In Cakewalk, View | Events and observe WS> Controller 64 (the sustain pedal) as 127 or 0 --- right down thump WS> alley. In Cakewalk or other sequencing program, you can lower the WS> upper values. You did not delete all of the pedal info as you have WS> indicated below. I still saw Controller 64 data. WS> I am not familiar with your model DKV (we have a Mark III), WS> and not sure of your controller's capabilities with regard to HP WS> data. What happens if you record something and observe the WS> Controller values in Cakewalk? Are they not in a variable range? WS> How does the thumping sound? WS> AFAIK, you can redirect only one MIDI channel to the DSK WS> itself through the Mark III controller functions, so what you are WS> doing with the midi file is just fine. I was referring to a file WS> that already had Piano on Channel 1 and 2 and pedal on 3. WS> Fred WS> Do you Yahoo!? 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