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Re: [disklavier] Stoptime and Clair Thump Re: Pedal, tracks, channels, velocity, Cakewalk

2004-01-06 by Robert Welcyng

> Danny <simpsond@...> wrote:

Robert, I believe the firmware in my Mark II XG is version 1.44, as that 
was the
latest download that I received from Yamaha which I still on my 
computer. (I'm
not certain on how to show the firmware revision number on my piano.) 
I'm just
trying to find some commonality between our systems.

R: Danny, I have a Mark II only, not an XG, so we'll surely have 
different ROM versions (and, perhaps, different characteristics).  Mine 
has two different ROMs:

1) PK CTL ROM: Version 2.03 (Apr 4, 1995) (Power on with the L&R buttons 
pressed; press "+" once; press "Song Select Fwd".)

2) Sensor Prgm ROM: Version 1.24 (Dec 14, 1993) (Power on with the L&R 
pressed; press "+" twice; press "Song Select Fwd".)

{My ROMs are just that (not EPROMs) and had to be physically changed out.)

BTW, in the comparisons you two are making and describing, are you 
playing the MIDI files from a diskette in the DKV drive or from an 
external computer?

Bob

Walter Sharpe wrote:
> Danny,
>  
> Absolutely no difference in the way these two versions sound on my MX500 
> II. It treats a 40 just like a 0.
>  
> The project you are working on is very worthwhile!
>  
> Walt
> 
> Danny <simpsond@...> wrote:
> 
>     .....
> 
>     The reason that I keep pressing on this issue, our current Yahoo
>     Group 'files'
>     section is currently being re-organized under Todd's direction. It
>     could also
>     *possibly* be updated as an option so that some of the current MIDI
>     files inside
>     this 'files' area be modified to a 'common' medium so that many
>     Disklaviers
>     could respond similarly (as well as possible) using the same files.
>     Then again,
>     all of this may not be possible. Spencer is currently working on the
>     velocity
>     (loudness) and may modify his program for other uses. This would be
>     a great
>     asset for all of us. It would be nice so that everyone would not
>     need to modify
>     these same files (reinvent the wheel) to work a bit better. I
>     realize that at
>     least some of Mark IIs do not work with continuous pedal properly on
>     MIDI
>     channel 1.
> 
>     There are two problems that we have been discussing here:
> 
>     1) velocity data, (loudness) and
>     2) sustain pedal data ('thumping' noise).
> 
>     Regarding item #2, I tried the attached 'Clair de Lune' file
>     (ClairBit.mid) and
>     sure enough, it does 'thump' a fair amount. I then modified the
>     sustain pedal
>     'off' (the '0' parameter) in your original file to '40' and the
>     thump problem
>     went totally away on my Mark II XG. (It may not be closing
>     entirely.) This is
>     all kept on channel 1. I have attached it here as 'ClairBit 2.mid'. For
>     reference, I have also included Walter's original 'Clair de Lune'
>     MIDI file.
> 
>     Apparently, there may be some Mark II DKVs that work OK (or somewhat
>     OK) with
>     continuous pedaling on channel 1. As was pointed out, typically on
>     Mark II DKVs,
>     for continuous pedaling to work properly, the sustain pedal data
>     should normally
>     be moved to channel 3.
> 
>     Robert, I believe the firmware in my Mark II XG is version 1.44, as
>     that was the
>     latest download that I received from Yamaha which I still on my
>     computer. (I'm
>     not certain on how to show the firmware revision number on my
>     piano.) I'm just
>     trying to find some commonality between our systems.
> 
>     If anyone else on the list has a Mark II XG, please try these two
>     attached files
>     on their piano and let me know of any pedaling noise differences
>     between the two
>     files. And, if you know, please report the firmware revision in your
>     MarkII.
> 
>     All this simply makes life a bit easier in not having to move the
>     controller
>     data to another channel.
> 
>     Thanks,
> 
>     Danny
> 
>      > ATTACHMENT part 2 audio/mid name=ClairBit 2.mid
> 
> 
>      > ATTACHMENT part 3 audio/mid name=ClairBit.mid
> 
> 
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Robert Welcyng
Anchorage, Alaska

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