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Re: [disklavier] Stoptime and Clair Thump Re: Pedal, tracks, channels, velocity, Cakewalk

2004-01-06 by Robert Welcyng

RW >>BTW, in the comparisons you two are making and describing, are you
 >>playing the MIDI files from a diskette in the DKV drive or from an
 >>external computer?

 > DD: I am using the internal DKV diskette drive for these tests. I 
have not
 > experimented with the MIDI port on this since most folks are using 
their DKVs in
 > a 'stand-alone' mode.

RW: My earlier statements regarding the sending of continuous pedal data 
to MIDI channel 3 apply to sending the MIDI data from an external source 
(my laptop with Cakewalk) to the DKV's MIDI input connector.  (This 
skirts around any restrictions on SMF1 files.)

My Mark II DKV's handling of MIDI on a 720K DOS disk in the DKV 
controller is somewhat primitive: It will accept SMF0 files only, 
ignores channel 3 data altogether, and interprets any channel 1 pedal 
data as ON/OFF.  Your Mark II XG could well respond differently.  I 
apologize if we have been comparing apples to oranges.

Not only has Yamaha added features to their newer DKVs while remarkably 
insuring PianoSoft compatibility across the line, but they have added to 
everyone's fun by giving old models new aliases.  One wonders how long 
they can continue to do this before someone finds himself painted into a 
corner.  Perhaps they are still pondering how to squeeze a PianoPro 
album onto a 720K diskette.

Bob

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Danny wrote:
> From: "Robert Welcyng" <rwelcyng@...>
> 
> Danny <simpsond@...> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Robert, I believe the firmware in my Mark II XG is version 1.44, as that
>>was the
>>latest download that I received from Yamaha which I still on my
>>computer. (I'm
>>not certain on how to show the firmware revision number on my piano.)
>>I'm just
>>trying to find some commonality between our systems.
>>
>>R: Danny, I have a Mark II only, not an XG, so we'll surely have
>>different ROM versions (and, perhaps, different characteristics).  Mine
>>has two different ROMs:
>>
>>1) PK CTL ROM: Version 2.03 (Apr 4, 1995) (Power on with the L&R buttons
>>pressed; press "+" once; press "Song Select Fwd".)
>>
>>2) Sensor Prgm ROM: Version 1.24 (Dec 14, 1993) (Power on with the L&R
>>pressed; press "+" twice; press "Song Select Fwd".)
>>
>>{My ROMs are just that (not EPROMs) and had to be physically changed out.)
>>
>>BTW, in the comparisons you two are making and describing, are you
>>playing the MIDI files from a diskette in the DKV drive or from an
>>external computer?
> 
> 
> 
> DD: Hi Robert,
> 
> DD: I am using the internal DKV diskette drive for these tests. I have not
> experimented with the MIDI port on this since most folks are using their DKVs in
> a 'stand-alone' mode.
> 
> DD: By the way, I totally agree with a statement that you made yesterday that
> the software should *not* be a 'patch' for fixing hardware problems in a case
> such as this one, by all means. There seems to be a few folks that are having
> problems in getting their sustain pedal(s) aligned properly to minimize this
> thumping sound.
> 
> DD: Sounds like Yamaha has many changes (or improvements) between their
> different DKV models over the years that are difficult to ascertain exactly how
> each responds to differing MIDI data, such as continual pedal action and true /
> delta velocity. It would be nice to have a list of these differences, but may be
> difficult to obtain or create one. Obviously, the newer Mark III would behave
> more like the actual MIDI data is telling it to than some of the earlier models.
> 
> DD: It is obviously much easier for a MIDI only sound generator module to
> 'follow' the nuanaces of MIDI data as it doesn't have to work in the 'real
> world' with mechanical doings!
> 
> DD: Danny
> 
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Robert Welcyng
Anchorage, Alaska

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