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RE: [disklavier] A reply to your message.

2004-01-09 by Sheldon Deluty

this is very interesting!

i thought i was going crazy when i would put a midi file in with piano on 1
and 2 and it would only play 1, sending 2 out to the synthesizer

i have a dkv C1 baby grand, with an xg (upgraded) conroller unit

does anyone know why the dkv does this? or how to make it stop mis-behaving?

i would second (bad pun) the recommendation that the optionbe available to
do the velo modification to channel 1 only

i woudl love to hear whether other DKV users experience the same 1-2
dysfunction that walter has mentioned

thank you for your time

sheldon deluty
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Walter Sharpe [mailto:wlsharpe@...]
  Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:09 PM
  To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [disklavier] A reply to your message.


  Spencer,

  When you add thhe option suggested by Chine-Chine Wang, I think you might
want to make it so you can decide if you want all piano parts to go to
channel 1 or if you want them to go to 1&2 (if that's what Chine-Chine Wang
and some people want). The reason I suggest this is that if I put a midi
file on a floppy and put it in my DKV it only plays channel 1 on the piano.
All other channels go out to my speaker system. I think that's the way it
works for many if not all others. Someone please tell me how if I am wrong.
From what I understand, a lot of people want to put their collections on
floppy disks for ease of use by anyone else even if they play them from
their laptop when they are operating it themselves. I am unaware of a
setting where the DKV piano will play files on disk to channel 1&2 and send
all other channels to speakers. There are ways to edit each individual file
from the controller so they will eventually play for you but a far better
way to do that is with a computer.

  On the other hand, if I play the midi to the DKV from my laptop via my USB
MidiSport interface, I can set my control unit so it will play channel 1 or
1&2 on the piano and send all the rest to the speakers. However, I recently
learned that I can also set the control unit to find piano parts on any
channel where the various piano or piano-like parts appear.
  These settings are done by pressing FUNC.,Right arrow, ENTER, ENTER then
+/YES or -/NO until you find the option you want and finish by pressing the
FUNC button. The options on page 115 of my YMM Series manual are:

  ##  - MIDI IN data is played by just by the internal tone generator.

  01 to 16 - MIDI IN data is played by the piano on the specified MIDI
channel.

  HP - Not Applicable.

  1&2 - MIDI IN data is played by the piano. Left hand part on MIDI channel
1, right-hand part on MIDI 2.

  Prg - MIDI IN data is played by the piano on the channel with the smallest
number which contains a piano group voice.

  Prg(all) - All channels that contain a piano group voice in the MIDI IN
data is played by the piano.

  Chine-Chine Wang, Does this sound like the way yours works?

  Walt

  Spencer Chase <spencer@...> wrote:
    Greetings Chine-Chine,

    That is a good idea. I will add an option to move all patch defined
    events to the appropriate channel.

    Thursday, January 8, 2004, 9:21:17 AM, you wrote:

    CCW> Indeed it is the default on the Disklavier to "only play MIDI data
on
    CCW> Channel 1 (L) and Channel 2 (R)", but this is not suitable for a
lot of the
    CCW> MIDI files downloaded from the Internet.  In my case, I have
changed the
    CCW> settings on the DKV to play the first two channels (not necessarily
    CCW> channels 1 and 2) that have piano patch to be played by the piano.
(I am
    CCW> currently away from home - and my DKV - so can't say exactly how to
get to
    CCW> those settings or verify for the correct wording, but it's
definitely there.)

    CCW> So, since Spencer is writing a program that adjusts downloaded MIDI
music
    CCW> for playing on the DKV, may I suggest that one useful function
would be to
    CCW> move any channel(s) that have the piano patch to channels 1 and 2
(and move
    CCW> the other instruments away from channels 1 and 2)?  This would
ensure that
    CCW> the processed files can be played on DKVs (default settings, as
what most
    CCW> people would have) with the intended parts driving the piano.

    CCW> If the above is possible, the velocity adjustment on channels 1 2
should
    CCW> happen after that  - so that it is the actual piano parts that get
    CCW> adjusted, not some trumpet part that happens to be on channel 1!
Thank you
    CCW> for all your efforts.

    CCW> CCW



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