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Re: [disklavier] Re: Mark IV disklaviers

2005-05-16 by Dave Budde

XP files are generally 2-4 times the size of a standard midi file. So floppy is still a very viable medium for these files. There are two significant contributors to the size: the data associated with each note takes 16 bits to represent rather than 8 bits. Also, pedal data is continuous rather than just on/off. This can be a huge contributor to the size if a lot of pedaling is used.

You can get examples of XP files here:

http://www.piano-e-competition.com/MIDIVIDEOFiles.htm

Follow the link to one of the contestants and you'll find both XP and standard midi file formats for the performances.

On May 15, 2005, at 7:35 PM, Robert Welcyng wrote:

Carl:

As far as I know, Yamaha does not offer PianoSoft recordings in XP format. That doesn't mean that no one ever will. And, of course, you could always make your own XP files on a Pro. Realize that XP files carry much data, so floppies are not a practical medium.

DKV models other than Pro simply ignore the additional XP data. There is no problem in playing an XP file on even a Mark II. I've done it, and, although not necessary, I've stripped out the extra data.

To get the answer to your question about what you'd be missing, the only practical way to find out is to do some playing and listening on various models. Perhaps I don't what I'm missing--I've never even heard a Pro--but I've heard some very fine music on my Mark II. My only complaint has been pedal thumping on older PianoSoft recordings with on/off pedaling, but I know how to minimize that.

Naturally, you can expect a psychological effect: A great deal of pleasure derives from owning the best--whether you can actually hear the difference or in just knowing or believing that it is there. Yamaha's marketing, through their ambivalence about the relative performance of Mark III Pro, Mark IV, and Mark IV Pro has not make your decision any easier. I believe they must want you to go to a dealer, listen, and find out for yourself.

Carl Youngblood wrote:
Are there very many PianoSoft recordings available out there that are in Midi XP format? I'm trying to determine how much I'll be missing out on by getting a regular disklavier as opposed to the disklavier PRO.

If I put a Midi XP recording into a regular disklavier can it downconvert it to a format that the regular disklavier can read, or will it not be able to play it at all?

Thanks,
Carl

On 5/15/05, Bill Brandom <BBrandom@...> wrote:
Hello folks,

I have reviewed my statement below with our engineers and they have
clarified that the standard Mark IV does not playback XP data like the
PROs do. Sorry about that. In terms of playing regular MIDI data, the
Mark IV plays very close to the same performance level of the Mark III
PRO.


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