Good morning, everyone. On May 15, 2005, at 7:36 PM, sjhart110110 wrote: > Does the Mark IV play back XP Standard files like the pro? How does > the Mark IV (non Pro), store the data to make it "virtually the same > as a Mark III pro"? There have been some good replies to various aspects of this question and, I think, a couple of misleading statements thrown in as well. When considering the Pro vs. non-Pro issue, one must separate the innate capabilities of the record/playback system from the instrument's ability to collect and respond to XP data. XP data refers to extra bits of MIDI data that enable the instrument to: --record hammer velocities on a scale of 0-1023 instead of the usual MIDI scale of 0-127 --record key velocity for each note on scale of 0-1023 in addition to hammer velocity --record key release velocity for each note on a scale of 0-1023. In early model Disklaviers, the dynamic range on playback was somewhat limited. The loudest notes that a pianist could record were played back a bit softer, and the softest notes that a pianist could record were played back a bit louder. The first Disklavier Pro (Mark IIXG vintage) had a much wider dynamic range with little or no restriction. In fact, it could accurately reproduce notes that were played so softly that the hammers never hit the strings. Part of the Pro's ability to do this had to do with a superior record/playback system and part of it had to do with its ability to collect and respond to extra bits of performance data (i.e. XP data). I believe it is true to say that many aspects of the record and playback system in the Mark IV non-Pro are the same as or very similar to the Mark III Pro. That does not mean that the instrument can record or respond to extra bits of performance data, but it does mean that the instrument has a huge dynamic range and that the customer can artificially turn down the playback volume to whisper- quiet levels. Recording in XP mode is an option in the Pro. Using XP mode means recording a lot of additional data. In a normal MIDI recording, there is a value recorded (or assigned) for each note-on message and each note-off message. Those numbers are recorded on a scale of 0-127. In order for XP mode to record note-on and note-off with a resolution of 0-1023 (as well as the additional key velocity information), the instrument employs normally unused MIDI controllers to store the MIDI data. In addition to this extra data, the Pro also records key velocity on a scale of 0-1023 for each note-on event. Again, this data is stored in values assigned to normally unused MIDI controllers. In order for the Disklavier to know which controller value applies to which notes, the instrument uses Key Aftertouch messages. NOTE: These messages are not recorded by virtue of how much key pressure is applied (as is the case in high-end MIDI controller keyboards). The Key Aftertouch data is used in a unique way for the purpose of associating the various controller messages to specific notes. The manner in which XP data is captured and used is a bit complicated, and the collection of XP data adds greatly to the file size of the recording. At this point in time, I know of no Yamaha- published recordings that contain XP data. The best examples of XP recordings can be found on the web site of the International Piano-e- Competition (www.piano-e-competition.com). As far as non-Pro Disklaviers are concerned, XP data is benign. Non- Pro Disklaviers will ignore XP data. The Pro has a feature for stripping XP data from a file; non-Pros do not have this feature. BTW, pedal data for all Pros and many non-Pros is continuous data. When deciding whether to purchase a Mark IV Pro or non-Pro, keep in mind these two things: --The DC2 and smaller grand Disklaviers do not have hammer sensors. Therefore, their recording system is not as advanced as the larger grands. In grand pianos, hammer sensors are currently only available in the DC3 and larger instruments. The Pro, therefore, is only available in the DC3 and larger pianos. --The Mark IV non-Pro includes speakers underneath the piano. The Pro does not. If you are planning to run the audio of your Disklavier into another sound system and therefore do not need the speakers included with the non-Pro, you might find it advantageous to purchase the Pro instead if the incremental difference is within your budget. Regards, PianoBench
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Re: [disklavier] Re: Mark IV disklaviers
2005-05-16 by George F. Litterst
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