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Re: [disklavier] Re: Minimum Velocities+self check

2005-09-26 by Robert Welcyng

For those interested, I'm attaching a short midi file (type 0). �The duration of each note is 31 msec, approximately, and all notes are of velocity 10. �When this file is played on my Mark II DC3, all notes sound.

(Should you not find the attachment, contact me privately.)

Spencer_Lists wrote:
Greetings George,

typing left handed, forgive lower case please.

it was a real surprise to me that the dkv would not play quick soft
notes. i would think that the mechanism and electronics should do
whatever is necessary to play any note sent to it, with the possible
exception of very quick brushed notes. the pianodisc brings all note
durations and velocities up to a minimum so they will play. this is
annoying at times as all brushed notes play audibly. i had to write a
program to remove them automatically.

the delay is turned on. without it it is much worse. the piano has
been regulated several times by a dealer tech. maybe there is a
shortage of dealer techs who know what they are doing.

it is interesting to hear of another piano with the same problem.


Monday, September 26, 2005, 7:25:47 AM, you wrote:
  
Good morning, everyone.
    
  
In my experience, a properly regulated and calibrated Disklavier  
should not drop notes on playback from floppy disk, internal memory,  
or from external MIDI when the MIDI Delay feature is on.
    
  
Dropped notes are a potential problem if the instrument is not  
properly regulated or calibrated or if it receives MIDI data with the
MIDI In delay turned off.
    
  
The non-Pro, pre-Mark IV Disklaviers have their own internal settings
that insure that low-velocity notes play back at an  appropriate  
minimum velocity (about 20-25 on grands and about 35 on uprights).
    
  
Regards,
PianoBench
    
  
On Sep 25, 2005, at 12:14 PM, Spencer_Lists wrote:
    
  
Greetings Bob

I have discovered, working with a friend who has the same piano that
you do, that minimum playing velocity depends to some extent on note
duration. Very quick notes require higher velocity. We found that
giving a minimum of 47 cures the dropped note problem in Ampico files.
We made a "preset" that seems to work well although a program that
adjusts velocity only for short notes might allow more subtlety in the
lower ranges. I'll write it if there is enough interest. Here is a
preset string for Midimod2  I would like to know if this is only a
problem with upright DKVs or if grands have the problem too. I can
send a sample file to anyone who wants to try it.

Kerr Ampico, 
3,7,11,15,19,23,27,31,35,47,50,51,53,56,59,63,67,71,73,75,78,82,85,90, 
94,100,104,108,110,110,110,110



      
My question is: What is the lowest velocity number

              
this piano must > have to reliably play such fast moving music?
Spencer Chase's editor > will let you raise velocities in certain
ranges without bothering > other velocities.  The piano has just run
the self test and > calibration program and passed.  I just want to
know how much to raise > those soft notes. >>  >> Many thanks for all
comments. >>  >> Bob Gonzalez >> bgonzalez@j...







      
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disklavier-owner@...
    
  
To reach our group's web site go to:
http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
    
  
Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It
contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is:
http://MuncyFamily.com 
    
  
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-- 
Robert Welcyng
Anchorage, Alaska

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