Good morning, George. "Is it possible to create another test file but with the note being rapidly repeated before progressing? " The problem I experience is when the piano tries to play a soft quick note repeatedly. The test file simply plays A B C D F E F and so on, which plays fine. I was asking to have the test file play AA BB CC DD EE FF. Do you have any insight to why the piano fails to sound the the second note? -Ted On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 10:06 -0400, George F. Litterst wrote: > Good morning, everyone. > > On Sep 27, 2005, at 9:42 AM, Ted East wrote: > > > > All, > > > > I tested the file on my mx100a upright. All notes sound at all > > volume levels, in fact I did not detect a noticeable difference in > > volume between 0 and -3. > > > > If the notes were low velocity to begin with, your Disklavier will > play them back with some minimum velocity that is appropriate to the > instrument. Turning the volume down further will not push the actual > playback velocity of the notes down beyond that built-in minimum. > > > > However I have noticed that my piano has problems playing short > > quick notes in rapid succession. > > > > Was this playback: > > > --from floppy disk? > I expect that this should be fine. > > > --from external MIDI with the MIDI In delay set to 500 ms? > I expect that this should be fine. > > > --from external MIDI with the MIDI In delay turned off? > I expect this to be a problem. > > > > Is it possible to create another test file but with the note being > > rapidly repeated before progressing? > > > > I am not sure what this means. > > > Regards, > PianoBench > > > > > > On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 12:08 -0800, Robert Welcyng wrote: > > > > > For those interested, I'm attaching a short midi file (type 0). > > > The duration of each note is 31 msec, approximately, and all > > > notes are of velocity 10. When this file is played on my Mark II > > > DC3, all notes sound. > > > > > > (Should you not find the attachment, contact me privately.) > > > > > > Spencer_Lists wrote: > > > > > > > Greetings George, > > > > > > > > typing left handed, forgive lower case please. > > > > > > > > it was a real surprise to me that the dkv would not play quick soft > > > > notes. i would think that the mechanism and electronics should do > > > > whatever is necessary to play any note sent to it, with the possible > > > > exception of very quick brushed notes. the pianodisc brings all note > > > > durations and velocities up to a minimum so they will play. this is > > > > annoying at times as all brushed notes play audibly. i had to write a > > > > program to remove them automatically. > > > > > > > > the delay is turned on. without it it is much worse. the piano has > > > > been regulated several times by a dealer tech. maybe there is a > > > > shortage of dealer techs who know what they are doing. > > > > > > > > it is interesting to hear of another piano with the same problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 26, 2005, 7:25:47 AM, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good morning, everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my experience, a properly regulated and calibrated Disklavier > > > > > should not drop notes on playback from floppy disk, internal memory, > > > > > or from external MIDI when the MIDI Delay feature is on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dropped notes are a potential problem if the instrument is not > > > > > properly regulated or calibrated or if it receives MIDI data with the > > > > > MIDI In delay turned off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The non-Pro, pre-Mark IV Disklaviers have their own internal settings > > > > > that insure that low-velocity notes play back at an appropriate > > > > > minimum velocity (about 20-25 on grands and about 35 on uprights). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > PianoBench > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 25, 2005, at 12:14 PM, Spencer_Lists wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > I have discovered, working with a friend who has the same piano that > > > > > > you do, that minimum playing velocity depends to some extent on note > > > > > > duration. Very quick notes require higher velocity. We found that > > > > > > giving a minimum of 47 cures the dropped note problem in Ampico files. > > > > > > We made a "preset" that seems to work well although a program that > > > > > > adjusts velocity only for short notes might allow more subtlety in the > > > > > > lower ranges. I'll write it if there is enough interest. Here is a > > > > > > preset string for Midimod2 I would like to know if this is only a > > > > > > problem with upright DKVs or if grands have the problem too. 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Re: [disklavier] Re: Minimum Velocities+self check
2005-09-27 by Ted East