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RE: [disklavier] Digest Number 1198

2006-02-10 by Adrian Thomas

The connecting cable for Disklavier to DKV carries come control signals (5Volt DC) and MIDI. 
MIDI cables (according to the spec) can be up to 15metres long. The control signals should also work over that distance.

Personally, I would limit runs to about 10metres, so the lenghts suggested here should be fine.

Adrian Thomas
UK

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 08:13 , Jim Schelling <jherb@...> sent:

>Re: Extension cable for the control unit:  I was also tired of hitting my
>knee on the unit and bending over to read the display.  I relocated the
>control unit on my Mark III to a small stand that sits on the left side of
>the piano. It is at the right height, and no extension was needed to the
>cable as it was easy to re-route it under the piano without disconnecting
>it.  I don't know if the cable is the same length on your piano.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
>Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:28 AM
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [disklavier] Digest Number 1198
>
>There are 5 messages in this issue.
>
>Topics in this digest:
>
>      1. Extension cable for DKC500RW
>           From: "subhash_rehan" subhashrehan@...>
>      2. RE: Rattling keys
>           From: Ken Gorman KenGorman@...>
>      3. Re: Extension cable for DKC500RW
>           From: Robert Welcyng rwelcyng@...>
>      4. Rattling Keys Solved!
>           From: "Mike McGregor" mcgregor@...>
>      5. Re: Rattling keys
>           From: "Carol Beigel" thecarolb@...>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>Message: 1         
>   Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:56:27 -0000
>   From: "subhash_rehan" subhashrehan@...>
>Subject: Extension cable for DKC500RW
>
>Hi, I was wondering if I can extend the 15-pin cable that attaches to
>the DKC500RW on my MPX1Z.
>
>I would ideally like to add about another 1 metre but was wondering if
>it would be affected by noise causing the notes to be dropped etc.
>
>Further, are these types are cable easy to purchase or are they made up.
>
>thanks
>Subhash
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 2         
>   Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 05:34:12 -0800 (PST)
>   From: Ken Gorman KenGorman@...>
>Subject: RE: Rattling keys
>
>Mike,
> 
>I had a problem similar to yours and my problem turned out to be a pen that
>had fallen down into the action.  With the fall board up, objects can easily
>roll onto the keys and cause rattling.  I couldn't see the pen with a visual
>inspection, but was pretty sure there was some foreign object on the keys.
>I remedied this by removing the fallboard (which involved removing the two
>blocks on both ends of the keys).  The fall board lifted directly out and
>there, laying right on top of the keys was a pen.
> 
>My symptoms were similar to yours.  The rattling was most pronounced on one
>key and diminished as I played the keys further away from the offending one.
>
> 
>Let us know what your rattle turns out to be.
> 
>Regards,
> 
>Ken Gorman
> 
>
>---------------------------------
>
>From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Carol Beigel
>Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:57 PM
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [disklavier] Rattling keys
>
>
>
>It almost sounds like a soundboard rattle.  Look for a
>foreign object lying under the strings.  Sometimes kids
>will put coins or marbles inside the round holes in the
>plate.  If you can't find anything on top of the
>soundboard, check the underside while the piano is
>playing, and by pushing upwards on various sections,
>see if the rattle goes away.  Could be a loose rib.
>Another thing to try is put the lid down if it is
>propped up.  If the rattle goes away, probably the case
>screws need tightened as well as the screws in the
>hinge that holds the two pieces of the lid together.
>
>Carol Beigel
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mike McGregor" mcgregor@...>
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:06 PM
>Subject: [disklavier] Rattling keys
>
>
>> It has been quite a while since I last posted to the
>Disklavier file
>> swappers group.  (Where does the time go?)
>>
>> Unfortunately for me, my reason for this post is to
>solicit opinions
>> about what is wrong with my piano and perhaps how to
>fix it myself.
>>
>> I have had my 5"3" playback only DGP1XG grand
>Disklavier since
>> mid-1999. (I had to look in my database entry here on
>this site to
>> make sure!)  I have had it tuned once or twice a year
>and have had
>> good service after initial glitches in the solenoid
>mechanisms were
>> taken care of under warranty.
>>
>> A few days ago I began to notice a distinct reedy
>rattle or clicking
>> noise when I (or the solenoid) depressed the G3 key
>(G above C3).
>> This G key produces the loudest noise; however the
>noise also occurs
>> with vigorous operation of one or two keys below and
>above the G,
>> lessening with the distance from the G. The noise
>seems to originate
>> under and perhaps slightly behind the keyboard. It
>leaves me with the
>> impression that something is loose or out of
>position.
>>
>> I would be grateful for any self-help suggestions for
>this problem. It
>> would not seem to be a solenoid problem -- the noise
>occurs when the
>> piano is played manually as well as when it is
>playing under program
>> control.
>>
>> I realize that I am due - probably overdue - for a
>"major" tuneup and
>> regulation by a Yamaha technician. For budgetary
>reasons, I am trying
>> to defer that for a few more months.  In the
>meantime, have other
>> users experienced - and fixed - similar problems?
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>>
>> Mike McGregor
>> Lockhart, TX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Todd's family web site was completely updated
>012/22/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content and
>links to midi sites among many other things, The url
>is:
>> http://MuncyFamily.com
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>Message: 3         
>   Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 08:30:32 -0900
>   From: Robert Welcyng rwelcyng@...>
>Subject: Re: Extension cable for DKC500RW
>
>Yes, you can easily insert a 9-conductor cable with Sub-D 9 pin 
>connectors between the control unit and the existing cable.  Such 
>prefabricated cables are commonly found in computer stores.  Mine is 
>about 2 meters long, but I'm sure it could be longer without any loss of 
>reliable performance of my Mark II DC3.
>
>In my case, I was weary of banging my knees on the control unit and 
>craning my neck to read the display.
>
>
>
>subhash_rehan wrote:
>
>>Hi, I was wondering if I can extend the 15-pin cable that attaches to
>>the DKC500RW on my MPX1Z.
>>
>>I would ideally like to add about another 1 metre but was wondering if
>>it would be affected by noise causing the notes to be dropped etc.
>>
>>Further, are these types are cable easy to purchase or are they made up.
>>
>>thanks
>>Subhash
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
>>
>>To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator,
>send it to:
>>disklavier-owner@...
>>
>>To reach our group's web site go to:
>>http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>>
>>Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It contains some
>fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The
>url is:
>>http://MuncyFamily.com 
>>
>>THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>>If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail,
>go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  That
>will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  If you
>insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
>>disklavier-unsubscribe@... 
>>
>>Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
>>disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link:
>>http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join 
>> 
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>>
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>>
>
>-- 
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>Anchorage, Alaska
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
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>
>Message: 4         
>   Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:42:43 -0000
>   From: "Mike McGregor" mcgregor@...>
>Subject: Rattling Keys Solved!
>
>My friends,
>
>This group is truly wonderful.
>
>After I saw the messages from Ken and Carol, my thoughts immediately
>flew to my 3-year old grandaughter, who loves to play with the piano.
>
>Off came the fallboard, and there, right behind the G3 key, was a
>diskette. Problem solved.
>
>Your help, Carol and Ken, is much appreciated.
>
>Regards,
>
>Mike McGregor
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>Message: 5         
>   Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 16:25:26 -0500
>   From: "Carol Beigel" thecarolb@...>
>Subject: Re: Rattling keys
>
>To access the top of the keys, all one needs to do is
>lift straight up on the fallboard.  Put your thumbs on
>the top (stretcher) and your fingers under the lip of
>the fallboard.  No need to remove the cheek blocks.  To
>replace the fallboard, rotate it forward to a 45 degree
>angle, and put the notches on the side over the pins,
>then push.
>
>Carol Beigel
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Ken Gorman" KenGorman@...>
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:34 AM
>Subject: RE: [disklavier] Rattling keys
>
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> I had a problem similar to yours and my problem
>turned out to be a pen that had fallen down into the
>action.  With the fall board up, objects can easily
>roll onto the keys and cause rattling.  I couldn't see
>the pen with a visual inspection, but was pretty sure
>there was some foreign object on the keys.  I remedied
>this by removing the fallboard (which involved removing
>the two blocks on both ends of the keys).  The fall
>board lifted directly out and there, laying right on
>top of the keys was a pen.
>>
>> My symptoms were similar to yours.  The rattling was
>most pronounced on one key and diminished as I played
>the keys further away from the offending one.
>>
>> Let us know what your rattle turns out to be.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ken Gorman
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------
>>
>> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>[disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carol
>Beigel
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:57 PM
>> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Rattling keys
>>
>>
>>
>> It almost sounds like a soundboard rattle.  Look for
>a
>> foreign object lying under the strings.  Sometimes
>kids
>> will put coins or marbles inside the round holes in
>the
>> plate.  If you can't find anything on top of the
>> soundboard, check the underside while the piano is
>> playing, and by pushing upwards on various sections,
>> see if the rattle goes away.  Could be a loose rib.
>> Another thing to try is put the lid down if it is
>> propped up.  If the rattle goes away, probably the
>case
>> screws need tightened as well as the screws in the
>> hinge that holds the two pieces of the lid together.
>>
>> Carol Beigel
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike McGregor" mcgregor@...>
>> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:06 PM
>> Subject: [disklavier] Rattling keys
>>
>>
>> > It has been quite a while since I last posted to
>the
>> Disklavier file
>> > swappers group.  (Where does the time go?)
>> >
>> > Unfortunately for me, my reason for this post is to
>> solicit opinions
>> > about what is wrong with my piano and perhaps how
>to
>> fix it myself.
>> >
>> > I have had my 5"3" playback only DGP1XG grand
>> Disklavier since
>> > mid-1999. (I had to look in my database entry here
>on
>> this site to
>> > make sure!)  I have had it tuned once or twice a
>year
>> and have had
>> > good service after initial glitches in the solenoid
>> mechanisms were
>> > taken care of under warranty.
>> >
>> > A few days ago I began to notice a distinct reedy
>> rattle or clicking
>> > noise when I (or the solenoid) depressed the G3 key
>> (G above C3).
>> > This G key produces the loudest noise; however the
>> noise also occurs
>> > with vigorous operation of one or two keys below
>and
>> above the G,
>> > lessening with the distance from the G. The noise
>> seems to originate
>> > under and perhaps slightly behind the keyboard. It
>> leaves me with the
>> > impression that something is loose or out of
>> position.
>> >
>> > I would be grateful for any self-help suggestions
>for
>> this problem. It
>> > would not seem to be a solenoid problem -- the
>noise
>> occurs when the
>> > piano is played manually as well as when it is
>> playing under program
>> > control.
>> >
>> > I realize that I am due - probably overdue - for a
>> "major" tuneup and
>> > regulation by a Yamaha technician. For budgetary
>> reasons, I am trying
>> > to defer that for a few more months.  In the
>> meantime, have other
>> > users experienced - and fixed - similar problems?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any suggestions.
>> >
>> > Mike McGregor
>> > Lockhart, TX
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > To Post a message to the group, send it to:
>> disklavier@...
>> >
>> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the
>group's
>> founder and moderator, send it to:
>> > disklavier-owner@...
>> >
>> > To reach our group's web site go to:
>> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>> >
>> > Todd's family web site was completely updated
>> 012/22/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content
>and
>> links to midi sites among many other things, The url
>> is:
>> > http://MuncyFamily.com
>> >
>> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are
>> getting too much mail, go the the web site and change
>> your email delivery option instead.  That will fix
>the
>> problem, while maintaining your access to the group.
>> If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank
>> email to:
>> > disklavier-unsubscribe@...
>> >
>> > Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a
>> blank email to:
>> > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this
>> link:
>> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> To Post a message to the group, send it to:
>disklavier@...
>>
>> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's
>founder and moderator, send it to:
>> disklavier-owner@...
>>
>> To reach our group's web site go to:
>> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>>
>> Todd's family web site was completely updated
>012/22/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content and
>links to midi sites among many other things, The url
>is:
>> http://MuncyFamily.com
>>
>> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are
>getting too much mail, go the the web site and change
>your email delivery option instead.  That will fix the
>problem, while maintaining your access to the group.
>If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank
>email to:
>> disklavier-unsubscribe@...
>>
>> Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a
>blank email to:
>> disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this
>link:
>> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
>>
>>
>>
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>To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator,
>send it to:
>disklavier-owner@...
>
>To reach our group's web site go to:
>http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>
>Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It contains some
>fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The
>url is:
>http://MuncyFamily.com 
>
>THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail,
>go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  That
>will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  If you
>insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
>disklavier-unsubscribe@... 
>
>Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
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>To reach our group's web site go to:
>http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>
>Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is:
>http://MuncyFamily.com 
>
>THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  If you insist on leaving us completely send 
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