I could not agree more. I am about to buy a disklavier system and am sure i will have lots of questions when it finally arrives. Everyone here has been so friendly and candid with their advice and I very much appreciate it. Thank you Carol for all of your help. Ron --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Wong" <pjw5000@...> wrote: > > I've been a member of this group for more than 5 years and this is the first > time I've been motivated to post a message - and this one's to Carol Beigel: > > Please ignore Morris Smith's crude email. It is evident he lacks the spirit > of this incredible Disklavier Group. You, on the other hand, have displayed > honesty, character, generosity, and expertise throughout these years and > have established credibility as seen in the many exchanges you have with > group members. I look forward to your responses to the many questions > members have posted throughout the years. Please keep up the good work and > THANKS! > > Paul Wong > Morristown, NJ > > -----Original Message----- > From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 7:15 PM > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [disklavier] Digest Number 1249 > > > There are 13 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible Defect in Yamaha Grands > From: "manhattanboy100" manhattanboy100@... > 2. Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible Defect in Yamaha Grands > From: "Carol Beigel" thecarolb@... > 3. Re: > From: "John Hancock" johnmusic@... > 4. Re: G or C? > From: "Buddhika Wije" buddhika50@... > 5. Re: G or C? > From: "Carol Beigel" thecarolb@... > 6. Re: G or C? > From: "Morris Smith" mdsatlanta@... > 7. Re: G or C? > From: "Jorge Fernandez" jorgefedez@... > 8. Re: G or C? > From: "Mark" marcus@... > 9. Re: G or C? > From: "Ron Natalie" ron.natalie@... > 10. Re: G or C? > From: "Jerry Dutcher" gldutcher@... > 11. Re: G or C? > From: "Buddhika Wije" buddhika50@... > 12. Re: G or C? > From: "Jorge Fernandez" jorgefedez@... > 13. Re: G or C? > From: "Mysore" suresh@... > > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > > Message 1 > From: "manhattanboy100" manhattanboy100@... > Date: Sun May 21, 2006 4:55pm(PDT) > Subject: Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible Defect in Yamaha Grands > > Thanks. Carol do you have any strong views GC1 (5'3") v. C2 (5'8"). > Same Mark IV disklavier system. Thanks. > Ron > > > -- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Arthur O'Leary" <ajoleary@> > wrote: > > > > Go for the C2 - it's worth the difference. > > > > > > > > AJ O'Leary > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On > > Behalf Of manhattanboy100 > > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 4:42 PM > > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible Defect > in Yamaha > > Grands > > > > > > > > Thanks, I will pass this info along to the dealer. One more thing, > I > > am really struggling between the C1 (5'3") and C2 (5'8") models - > > both will fit well in my home - both come with the same Mark Iv > > disklavier and there is about a $10,000 price difference. Not being > a > > player I really cannot hear the difference. Any advice? Thanks!! > > > > > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > What you are noticing are called compression ridges. > > > Because the planks that make up the soundboard of the > > > piano are glued in on all sides, when they encounter > > > humidity and swell slightly, there is no where to go > > > and you see these compression ridges. Eventually they > > > dry out and go away. However, if the humidity was > > > severe enough, those ridges can turn into cracks. It > > > is not the end of the world if your soundboard cracks, > > > but I personally believe there is an eventual loss of > > > tone. Yamaha does put a 10 year warranty on their > > > pianos. > > > > > > If you think the compression is severe, wait for > > > another piano. > > > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "manhattanboy100" <manhattanboy100@> > > > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:08 AM > > > Subject: [disklavier] Help! Serious Concern re Possible > > > Defect in Yamaha Grands > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I am about to purchase a brand new Yamaha C2 with > > > the disklavier > > > > feature. The piano arrived at the dealer and it is > > > now set up in the > > > > showroom (for tuning etc). When I examined the piano > > > closely I noticed > > > > that the light colored horizontal wood panelling > > > below the strings is > > > > not perfectly flat and smooth to the touch, but the > > > wood strips have > > > > raised ridges between them, almost like the "cupping" > > > that occurs when > > > > hardwood floor strips become damaged from water. Its > > > as though the > > > > strips are too compressed against one another > > > resulting in raised > > > > edges. Other pianos (both Yamaha and other brands) > > > that I looked at in > > > > the showroom did not have this problem. The boards > > > are flat and > > > > smooth. The salesperson could not explain but agreed > > > to look into it. > > > > Has anyone encountered this? Is this a defect in the > > > piano? Could this > > > > be a moisture or humidity problem? Should I be > > > concerned? Thanks!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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It > contains some > > fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other > things, The > > url is: > > http://MuncyFamily.com > > > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too > much mail, > > go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. > That > > will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. > If you > > insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > > disklavier-unsubscribe@ > > > > Know someone who wants to join? 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GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > * Visit your group "disklavier > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier> " on the web. > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com? subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > > Message 2 > From: "Carol Beigel" thecarolb@... > Date: Sun May 21, 2006 9:12pm(PDT) > Subject: Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible Defect in Yamaha Grands > > In pianos, bigger is usually better. The C2 is a well-built piano. The GC1 > is a cheaper version of the C1. Different materials in the case, piano > hammers and the amount of work put into it at the factory. That is why it > is so much cheaper. Try to get a good deal on the C2. Ultimately though, > you should listen to each of these pianos and decide for yourself! > > Carol > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "manhattanboy100" <manhattanboy100@...> > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 7:55 PM > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible Defect in Yamaha > Grands > > > > Thanks. Carol do you have any strong views GC1 (5'3") v. C2 (5'8"). > > Same Mark IV disklavier system. Thanks. > > Ron > > > > > > -- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Arthur O'Leary" <ajoleary@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Go for the C2 - it's worth the difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > AJ O'Leary > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On > > > Behalf Of manhattanboy100 > > > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 4:42 PM > > > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible Defect > > in Yamaha > > > Grands > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, I will pass this info along to the dealer. One more thing, > > I > > > am really struggling between the C1 (5'3") and C2 (5'8") models - > > > both will fit well in my home - both come with the same Mark Iv > > > disklavier and there is about a $10,000 price difference. Not being > > a > > > player I really cannot hear the difference. Any advice? Thanks!! > > > > > > > > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > What you are noticing are called compression ridges. > > > > Because the planks that make up the soundboard of the > > > > piano are glued in on all sides, when they encounter > > > > humidity and swell slightly, there is no where to go > > > > and you see these compression ridges. Eventually they > > > > dry out and go away. However, if the humidity was > > > > severe enough, those ridges can turn into cracks. It > > > > is not the end of the world if your soundboard cracks, > > > > but I personally believe there is an eventual loss of > > > > tone. Yamaha does put a 10 year warranty on their > > > > pianos. > > > > > > > > If you think the compression is severe, wait for > > > > another piano. > > > > > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "manhattanboy100" <manhattanboy100@> > > > > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:08 AM > > > > Subject: [disklavier] Help! Serious Concern re Possible > > > > Defect in Yamaha Grands > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I am about to purchase a brand new Yamaha C2 with > > > > the disklavier > > > > > feature. The piano arrived at the dealer and it is > > > > now set up in the > > > > > showroom (for tuning etc). When I examined the piano > > > > closely I noticed > > > > > that the light colored horizontal wood panelling > > > > below the strings is > > > > > not perfectly flat and smooth to the touch, but the > > > > wood strips have > > > > > raised ridges between them, almost like the "cupping" > > > > that occurs when > > > > > hardwood floor strips become damaged from water. Its > > > > as though the > > > > > strips are too compressed against one another > > > > resulting in raised > > > > > edges. Other pianos (both Yamaha and other brands) > > > > that I looked at in > > > > > the showroom did not have this problem. The boards > > > > are flat and > > > > > smooth. The salesperson could not explain but agreed > > > > to look into it. > > > > > Has anyone encountered this? Is this a defect in the > > > > piano? Could this > > > > > be a moisture or humidity problem? Should I be > > > > concerned? Thanks!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups > > > > > > > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: > > > > disklavier@ > > > > > > > > > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's > > > > founder and moderator, send it to: > > > > > disklavier-owner@ > > > > > > > > > > To reach our group's web site go to: > > > > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > > > > > > > > > Todd's family web site was completely updated > > > > 012/22/03. It contains some fun disklavier content and > > > > links to midi sites among many other things, The url > > > > is: > > > > > http://MuncyFamily.com > > > > > > > > > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > > > > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are > > > > getting too much mail, go the the web site and change > > > > your email delivery option instead. That will fix the > > > > problem, while maintaining your access to the group. > > > > If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank > > > > email to: > > > > > disklavier-unsubscribe@ > > > > > > > > > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a > > > > blank email to: > > > > > disklavier-subscribe@ or give them this > > > > link: > > > > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@ > > > > > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and > > moderator, > > > send it to: > > > disklavier-owner@ > > > > > > To reach our group's web site go to: > > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > > > > > Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03. It > > contains some > > > fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other > > things, The > > > url is: > > > http://MuncyFamily.com > > > > > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too > > much mail, > > > go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. > > That > > > will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. > > If you > > > insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > > > disklavier-unsubscribe@ > > > > > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > > > disklavier-subscribe@ or give them this link: > > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > > > > > > Piano > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > > t=ms&k=Piano+music+box&w1=Piano+music+box&w2=P > > > > > iano+music&w3=Musical+instrument+keyboard&w4=Piano+music+book&w5=Piano > > +sheet > > > +music&w6=Piano+music+sheet&c=6&s=139&.sig=nNkxxHKwIhpoGeHWxVRy1Q> > > music > > > box > > > > > > Piano > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > > t=ms&k=Piano+music&w1=Piano+music+box&w2=Piano > > > > > +music&w3=Musical+instrument+keyboard&w4=Piano+music+book&w5=Piano+she > > et+mus > > > ic&w6=Piano+music+sheet&c=6&s=139&.sig=5o_9SLK190GOZuHbp-ixoA> > > music > > > > > > Musical > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > > t=ms&k=Musical+instrument+keyboard&w1=Piano+mu > > > > > sic+box&w2=Piano+music&w3=Musical+instrument+keyboard&w4=Piano+music+b > > ook&w5 > > > > > =Piano+sheet+music&w6=Piano+music+sheet&c=6&s=139&.sig=s08e1HvonxAV4x5 > > qgl4sO > > > A> instrument keyboard > > > > > > > > > Piano > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > > t=ms&k=Piano+music+book&w1=Piano+music+box&w2= > > > > > Piano+music&w3=Musical+instrument+keyboard&w4=Piano+music+book&w5=Pian > > o+shee > > > t+music&w6=Piano+music+sheet&c=6&s=139&.sig=Km_gdEpQP0aOBeOmd- > > nfJA> music > > > book > > > > > > Piano > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > > t=ms&k=Piano+sheet+music&w1=Piano+music+box&w2 > > > > > =Piano+music&w3=Musical+instrument+keyboard&w4=Piano+music+book&w5=Pia > > no+she > > > et+music&w6=Piano+music+sheet&c=6&s=139&.sig=SaOH1C0- > > 6p4nz890i0z0og> sheet > > > music > > > > > > Piano > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > > t=ms&k=Piano+music+sheet&w1=Piano+music+box&w2 > > > > > =Piano+music&w3=Musical+instrument+keyboard&w4=Piano+music+book&w5=Pia > > no+she > > > > > et+music&w6=Piano+music+sheet&c=6&s=139&.sig=38E2lNh9NJObDRQSXD9r0A> > > music > > > sheet > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group "disklavier > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier> " on the web. > > > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > <mailto:disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com? subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and > moderator, send it to: > > disklavier-owner@... > > > > To reach our group's web site go to: > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > > > Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03. It contains some > fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The > url is: > > http://MuncyFamily.com > > > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, > go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That > will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you > insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > > disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > > Message 3 > From: "John Hancock" johnmusic@... > Date: Mon May 22, 2006 1:33am(PDT) > Subject: Re: > > This is for DK technicians such as Carol or others. > > > > I have been told that the pedal sensor on my "vintage" G1 wagon grand only > records full or half pedal. > > > > I have tested this and it appears that the pedal is grey scale and records > minute movements. If I slowly depress the pedal and slowly release it, the > playback is smooth and continuous right from off to full and back again. > > > > So. Is the pedal on my Mk1 grand grey scale or not? > > > > John Hancock > > > > _____ > > From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of manhattanboy100 > Sent: 22 May 2006 00:55 > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible Defect in Yamaha > Grands > > > > Thanks. Carol do you have any strong views GC1 (5'3") v. C2 (5'8"). > Same Mark IV disklavier system. Thanks. > Ron > > > -- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Arthur O'Leary" <ajoleary@> > wrote: > > > > Go for the C2 - it's worth the difference. > > > > > > > > AJ O'Leary > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On > > Behalf Of manhattanboy100 > > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 4:42 PM > > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible Defect > in Yamaha > > Grands > > > > > > > > Thanks, I will pass this info along to the dealer. One more thing, > I > > am really struggling between the C1 (5'3") and C2 (5'8") models - > > both will fit well in my home - both come with the same Mark Iv > > disklavier and there is about a $10,000 price difference. Not being > a > > player I really cannot hear the difference. Any advice? Thanks!! > > > > > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > What you are noticing are called compression ridges. > > > Because the planks that make up the soundboard of the > > > piano are glued in on all sides, when they encounter > > > humidity and swell slightly, there is no where to go > > > and you see these compression ridges. Eventually they > > > dry out and go away. However, if the humidity was > > > severe enough, those ridges can turn into cracks. It > > > is not the end of the world if your soundboard cracks, > > > but I personally believe there is an eventual loss of > > > tone. Yamaha does put a 10 year warranty on their > > > pianos. > > > > > > If you think the compression is severe, wait for > > > another piano. > > > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "manhattanboy100" <manhattanboy100@> > > > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:08 AM > > > Subject: [disklavier] Help! Serious Concern re Possible > > > Defect in Yamaha Grands > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I am about to purchase a brand new Yamaha C2 with > > > the disklavier > > > > feature. The piano arrived at the dealer and it is > > > now set up in the > > > > showroom (for tuning etc). When I examined the piano > > > closely I noticed > > > > that the light colored horizontal wood panelling > > > below the strings is > > > > not perfectly flat and smooth to the touch, but the > > > wood strips have > > > > raised ridges between them, almost like the "cupping" > > > that occurs when > > > > hardwood floor strips become damaged from water. Its > > > as though the > > > > strips are too compressed against one another > > > resulting in raised > > > > edges. Other pianos (both Yamaha and other brands) > > > that I looked at in > > > > the showroom did not have this problem. The boards > > > are flat and > > > > smooth. The salesperson could not explain but agreed > > > to look into it. > > > > Has anyone encountered this? Is this a defect in the > > > piano? Could this > > > > be a moisture or humidity problem? Should I be > > > concerned? Thanks!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group "disklavier > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier> " on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. > > > > _____ > > > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > > Message 4 > From: "Buddhika Wije" buddhika50@... > Date: Mon May 22, 2006 2:22am(PDT) > Subject: Re: G or C? > > Hi, > Whats the equal version to the G3 now and whats the value of a good > second hand one? > I guess the C series is better than the G series? > Thanks > BUDD > From: "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@...> Reply-To: > disklavier@yahoogroups.com To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: > [disklavier] Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible Defect in Yamaha > Grands Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 23:23:37 -0400 In pianos, bigger is > usually better. The C2 is a well-built piano. The GC1 is a cheaper > version of the C1. Different materials in the case, piano hammers and > the amount of work put into it at the factory. That is why it is so much > cheaper. Try to get a good deal on the C2. Ultimately though, you should > listen to each of these pianos and decide for yourself! Carol ----- > Original Message ----- From: "manhattanboy100" > <manhattanboy100@...> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: > Sunday, May 21, 2006 > 7:55 PM Subject: [disklavier] Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible > Defect in Yamaha Grands > Thanks. Carol do you have any strong views GC1 > (5'3") v. C2 (5'8"). > Same Mark IV disklavier system. Thanks. > Ron > > > > -- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Arthur O'Leary" <ajoleary@> > > wrote: > > > > Go for the C2 - it's worth the difference. > > > > > > > > > AJ O'Leary > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: > disklavier@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On > > > Behalf Of manhattanboy100 > > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 4:42 PM > > To: > disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Help! Serious > Concern re Possible Defect > in Yamaha > > > Grands > > > > > > > > Thanks, I will pass this info along to the > dealer. One more thing, > I > > am really struggling between the C1 > (5'3") and C2 (5'8") models - > > both will fit well in my home - both > come with the same Mark Iv > > disklavier and there is about a $10,000 > price difference. Not being > a > > player I really cannot hear the > difference. Any advice? Thanks!! > > > > > > --- In > disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > What you are noticing are called compression ridges. > > > Because > the planks that make up the soundboard of the > > > piano are glued in > on all sides, when they encounter > > > humidity and swell slightly, > there is no where to > go > > > and you see these compression ridges. Eventually they > > > dry > out and go away. However, if the humidity was > > > severe enough, those > ridges can turn into cracks. It > > > is not the end of the world if > your soundboard cracks, > > > but I personally believe there is an > eventual loss of > > > tone. Yamaha does put a 10 year warranty on their > > > > pianos. > > > > > > If you think the compression is severe, wait > for > > > another piano. > > > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > ----- > Original Message ----- > > > From: "manhattanboy100" <manhattanboy100@> > > > > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 > 2:08 AM > > > > Subject: [disklavier] Help! Serious Concern re Possible > > > Defect > in Yamaha Grands > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I am about to purchase a brand > new Yamaha C2 with > > > the disklavier > > > > feature. The piano > arrived at the dealer and it is > > > now set up in the > > > > showroom > (for tuning etc). When I examined the piano > > > closely I noticed > > > > > that the light colored horizontal wood panelling > > > below the > strings is > > > > not perfectly flat and smooth to the touch, but the > > > > wood strips have > > > > raised ridges between them, almost like the > "cupping" > > > that occurs when > > > > hardwood floor strips become > damaged from water. Its > > > > as though the > > > > strips are too compressed against one another > > > > resulting in raised > > > > edges. Other pianos (both Yamaha and > other brands) > > > that I looked at in > > > > the showroom did not > have this problem. The boards > > > are flat and > > > > smooth. The > salesperson could not explain but agreed > > > to look into it. > > > > > Has anyone encountered this? Is this a defect in the > > > piano? Could > this > > > > be a moisture or humidity problem? Should I be > > > > concerned? Thanks!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group "disklavier > > < > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier > " on the web. > > > > * To > unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > <mailto:disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > > < > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: > disklavier@... > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, > the group's founder and moderator, send it to: > > disklavier-owner@... > > To reach our group's web site go > to: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > Todd's family web site > was completely updated 012/22/03. It contains some fun disklavier > content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is: > > http://MuncyFamily.com > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are > thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the > the web site and change your email delivery option > instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the > group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > > disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > Know someone who wants to > join? Have them send a blank email to: > > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: > disklavier@... To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the > group's founder and moderator, send it to: > disklavier-owner@... 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GROUPS LINKS > Visit your group " disklavier " on the web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . > Don't just search. Find. MSN Search Check out the new MSN Search! > > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > > Message 5 > From: "Carol Beigel" thecarolb@... > Date: Mon May 22, 2006 5:07am(PDT) > Subject: Re: G or C? > > This is hard to explain; especially since different models are distributed > all over the world, and often "newer" versions still have the same model > number! The U1 upright is a good example of a piano that has changed many > times in different markets over the years, but still carries the model > number of U1. > > I can only speak for the G, C, and S models I have seen in the United > States. Years ago, Yamaha made a G series of grand pianos that were > marketed for home use. That means they were engineered and manufactured to > a price point not necessarily the best quality. The C series are better > pianos and higher priced; called Conservatory models. Then, there is the > best they can do, and those are the S series for those who are willing to > pay for a fabulous piano. I once saw an A series baby grand that was > wonderful, but it was not marketed in the U.S. It's all about price point > and what the customer will pay for. > > As everything else in the world, piano manufacturers had to compete in a > market where people wanted to buy goods for cheap, so they had to come up > with pianos that people could buy for cheaper. The only way to do that is > to cut corners somewhere. You get what you pay for, but that is hard to > explain that to someone on a showroom floor looking at virtually identical > grand pianos the same size but the price points are thousands of dollars > apart. > > I believe the C3 today is similar to the G3 of yesteryear, but there is no > cheaper version of that size piano today. The cheaper models are the > smaller grands. > > The older G series have the same stringing scales in some instances that the > C series now uses but other differences in the piano actions. You really > cannot generalize and say the old G series are as good as today's C series. > > Today's G series make a lot of compromises in the materials used in the > case, how long the factory takes to produce them, how nice the piano hammers > sound (usually brighter), how well the piano can be tuned and how long a > tuning will last, how fast the materials in the piano action will wear out, > and how long the regulation of the piano action will last. > > Carol Beigel > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Buddhika Wije > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 5:21 AM > Subject: Re: [disklavier] G or C? > > > Hi, > > Whats the equal version to the G3 now and whats the value of a good second > hand one? > > I guess the C series is better than the G series? > > Thanks > > BUDD > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > From: "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@...> > Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible Defect > in Yamaha Grands > Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 23:23:37 -0400 > > In pianos, bigger is usually better. The C2 is a well-built piano. The > GC1 > is a cheaper version of the C1. Different materials in the case, piano > hammers and the amount of work put into it at the factory. That is why > it > is so much cheaper. Try to get a good deal on the C2. Ultimately > though, > you should listen to each of these pianos and decide for yourself! > > Carol > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "manhattanboy100" <manhattanboy100@...> > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 7:55 PM > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible Defect in > Yamaha > Grands > > > > Thanks. Carol do you have any strong views GC1 (5'3") v. C2 (5'8"). > > Same Mark IV disklavier system. Thanks. > > Ron > > > > > > -- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Arthur O'Leary" <ajoleary@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Go for the C2 - it's worth the difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > AJ O'Leary > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On > > > Behalf Of manhattanboy100 > > > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 4:42 PM > > > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible Defect > > in Yamaha > > > Grands > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, I will pass this info along to the dealer. One more thing, > > I > > > am really struggling between the C1 (5'3") and C2 (5'8") models - > > > both will fit well in my home - both come with the same Mark Iv > > > disklavier and there is about a $10,000 price difference. Not being > > a > > > player I really cannot hear the difference. Any advice? Thanks!! > > > > > > > > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > What you are noticing are called compression ridges. > > > > Because the planks that make up the soundboard of the > > > > piano are glued in on all sides, when they encounter > > > > humidity and swell slightly, there is no where to go > > > > and you see these compression ridges. Eventually they > > > > dry out and go away. However, if the humidity was > > > > severe enough, those ridges can turn into cracks. It > > > > is not the end of the world if your soundboard cracks, > > > > but I personally believe there is an eventual loss of > > > > tone. Yamaha does put a 10 year warranty on their > > > > pianos. > > > > > > > > If you think the compression is severe, wait for > > > > another piano. > > > > > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "manhattanboy100" <manhattanboy100@> > > > > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:08 AM > > > > Subject: [disklavier] Help! Serious Concern re Possible > > > > Defect in Yamaha Grands > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I am about to purchase a brand new Yamaha C2 with > > > > the disklavier > > > > > feature. The piano arrived at the dealer and it is > > > > now set up in the > > > > > showroom (for tuning etc). When I examined the piano > > > > closely I noticed > > > > > that the light colored horizontal wood panelling > > > > below the strings is > > > > > not perfectly flat and smooth to the touch, but the > > > > wood strips have > > > > > raised ridges between them, almost like the "cupping" > > > > that occurs when > > > > > hardwood floor strips become damaged from water. Its > > > > as though the > > > > > strips are too compressed against one another > > > > resulting in raised > > > > > edges. Other pianos (both Yamaha and other brands) > > > > that I looked at in > > > > > the showroom did not have this problem. The boards > > > > are flat and > > > > > smooth. The salesperson could not explain but agreed > > > > to look into it. > > > > > Has anyone encountered this? Is this a defect in the > > > > piano? Could this > > > > > be a moisture or humidity problem? Should I be > > > > concerned? 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Re: Digest Number 1249
2006-05-23 by manhattanboy100