a Late reply!!
Well carol, The great thing that came about from that callous email
from Morris is; 1- You are A Consul and 2-How much the group cares
about you. Keep up the great and generous help!!
dkvtech1ab
- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Morris Smith <mdsatlanta@...> wrote:
>
> Carol, you really need to do more research on these products. You
are so far out in left field trying to advise someone that Gs and Cs
are similar. They are completely different instruments. I have seen
these instruments grow and improve since the 60s, probably before you
were born. Do some more research and then advice and consul people,
who know absoutely nothing about instruments, in a more educated manner.
>
> Carol Beigel <thecarolb@...> wrote: This is hard to
explain; especially since different models are distributed all over
the world, and often "newer" versions still have the same model
number! The U1 upright is a good example of a piano that has changed
many times in different markets over the years, but still carries the
model number of U1.
>
> I can only speak for the G, C, and S models I have seen in the
United States. Years ago, Yamaha made a G series of grand pianos that
were marketed for home use. That means they were engineered and
manufactured to a price point not necessarily the best quality. The C
series are better pianos and higher priced; called Conservatory
models. Then, there is the best they can do, and those are the S
series for those who are willing to pay for a fabulous piano. I once
saw an A series baby grand that was wonderful, but it was not marketed
in the U.S. It's all about price point and what the customer will
pay for.
>
> As everything else in the world, piano manufacturers had to
compete in a market where people wanted to buy goods for cheap, so
they had to come up with pianos that people could buy for cheaper.
The only way to do that is to cut corners somewhere. You get what you
pay for, but that is hard to explain that to someone on a showroom
floor looking at virtually identical grand pianos the same size but
the price points are thousands of dollars apart.
>
> I believe the C3 today is similar to the G3 of yesteryear, but
there is no cheaper version of that size piano today. The cheaper
models are the smaller grands.
>
> The older G series have the same stringing scales in some
instances that the C series now uses but other differences in the
piano actions. You really cannot generalize and say the old G series
are as good as today's C series.
>
> Today's G series make a lot of compromises in the materials used
in the case, how long the factory takes to produce them, how nice the
piano hammers sound (usually brighter), how well the piano can be
tuned and how long a tuning will last, how fast the materials in the
piano action will wear out, and how long the regulation of the piano
action will last.
>
> Carol Beigel
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Buddhika Wije
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 5:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] G or C?
>
>
> Hi,
> Whats the equal version to the G3 now and whats the value of a
good second hand one?
> I guess the C series is better than the G series?
> Thanks
> BUDD
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> From: "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@...>
> Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible
Defect in Yamaha Grands
> Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 23:23:37 -0400
>
> In pianos, bigger is usually better. The C2 is a well-built piano.
The GC1
> is a cheaper version of the C1. Different materials in the case, piano
> hammers and the amount of work put into it at the factory. That is
why it
> is so much cheaper. Try to get a good deal on the C2. Ultimately
though,
> you should listen to each of these pianos and decide for yourself!
>
> Carol
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "manhattanboy100" <manhattanboy100@...>
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 7:55 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible Defect
in Yamaha
> Grands
>
>
> > Thanks. Carol do you have any strong views GC1 (5'3") v. C2 (5'8").
> > Same Mark IV disklavier system. Thanks.
> > Ron
> >
> >
> > -- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Arthur O'Leary" <ajoleary@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Go for the C2 - it's worth the difference.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > AJ O'Leary
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of manhattanboy100
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 4:42 PM
> > > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Help! Serious Concern re Possible Defect
> > in Yamaha
> > > Grands
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks, I will pass this info along to the dealer. One more thing,
> > I
> > > am really struggling between the C1 (5'3") and C2 (5'8") models -
> > > both will fit well in my home - both come with the same Mark Iv
> > > disklavier and there is about a $10,000 price difference. Not being
> > a
> > > player I really cannot hear the difference. Any advice? Thanks!!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In disklavier@...m, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What you are noticing are called compression ridges.
> > > > Because the planks that make up the soundboard of the
> > > > piano are glued in on all sides, when they encounter
> > > > humidity and swell slightly, there is no where to go
> > > > and you see these compression ridges. Eventually they
> > > > dry out and go away. However, if the humidity was
> > > > severe enough, those ridges can turn into cracks. It
> > > > is not the end of the world if your soundboard cracks,
> > > > but I personally believe there is an eventual loss of
> > > > tone. Yamaha does put a 10 year warranty on their
> > > > pianos.
> > > >
> > > > If you think the compression is severe, wait for
> > > > another piano.
> > > >
> > > > Carol Beigel
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "manhattanboy100" <manhattanboy100@>
> > > > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:08 AM
> > > > Subject: [disklavier] Help! Serious Concern re Possible
> > > > Defect in Yamaha Grands
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi, I am about to purchase a brand new Yamaha C2 with
> > > > the disklavier
> > > > > feature. The piano arrived at the dealer and it is
> > > > now set up in the
> > > > > showroom (for tuning etc). When I examined the piano
> > > > closely I noticed
> > > > > that the light colored horizontal wood panelling
> > > > below the strings is
> > > > > not perfectly flat and smooth to the touch, but the
> > > > wood strips have
> > > > > raised ridges between them, almost like the "cupping"
> > > > that occurs when
> > > > > hardwood floor strips become damaged from water. Its
> > > > as though the
> > > > > strips are too compressed against one another
> > > > resulting in raised
> > > > > edges. Other pianos (both Yamaha and other brands)
> > > > that I looked at in
> > > > > the showroom did not have this problem. The boards
> > > > are flat and
> > > > > smooth. The salesperson could not explain but agreed
> > > > to look into it.
> > > > > Has anyone encountered this? Is this a defect in the
> > > > piano? Could this
> > > > > be a moisture or humidity problem? Should I be
> > > > concerned? Thanks!!
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Re: G or C?
2006-05-25 by dkvtech1ab