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Re: Controlling a Mark IV PRO from a computer

2006-06-12 by heritage_flowline

Hi,
Thanks for the reply,
---
> Step time programming for a Mark IV Pro using Yamaha's full XP SMF 
is 
> possible--I know someone who has been done it.  It is hardly 
practical 
> to do so, however.
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do you have their email so I could ask them how they got on in more 
detail please?
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  For one thing, I'm not aware that Yamaha has openly 
> published the XP SMF definition. You might have to discover that 
for 
> yourself through reverse engineering. 
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Yes, unless someone here has already done that.
I did d/l some files from www.piano-e-competition.com
which where supposed to contain XP data but as far as I could see 
looking at the MIDI files they looked normal apart from pressure 
controllers which looked either on or off?
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 Second, a sequencer such as 
> Cakewalk could be used, but would be highly impractical--you would 
want 
> a custom programmed sequencer for that job.
> 
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Why? What do you think would be the tricky part?
I dont mind sitting down for hours entering in notes.
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> As you probably know,  the resolution of note velocity in XP SMF is 
over 
> a thousand steps.  You might question how many are the least number 
of 
> steps different in velocity, typically, to enable you to detect a 
> difference in sound level in the same note. (In my experience with 
a 
> lowly Mark II DC3 with its 127 steps of velocity, it takes more 
than a 
> few steps difference in velocity  for me to detect a difference. It 
> would take a still larger change in velocity of an individual note 
> within a reproduced piece to be detected by most listeners.)

yes agreed but that sounds like fun trying it out having all that 
depth at your programming fingertips, especially for programming 
crescendos on multiple notes.
 
> You surely have your reasons for considering step programming.  
Most 
> people who try it soon realize that musical notation is at best 
only an 
> approximate representation of a fine musical performance--a mere 
guide 
> to the performer.  In terms of efficiency in producing good music, 
step 
> programming simply doesn't compete with playing and recording live.
> 
Yes agreed BUT I`m apporaching it from a different angle and trying 
to compose stuff that can`t be played by a human, because i`m better 
at programming music than I am at playing it.
2. utilising this latest technology in a way to produce something new.

as much as I like listening to brilliant pianists
I actually like the mechanical, quantised feel of a player piano or 
MIDI playback, without a human performing it BUT with a real 
instrument and the depth of sound you get compared to samples.
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> heritage_flowline wrote:
> 
> >Hi group,
> >
> >What I`d really like to know is
> >can you fully take advantage of a Mark IV PRO`s extra features 
from a 
> >computer?
> >In other words can you program in step time a Mark IV PRO by 
inputing 
> >the extra MIDI data as well as the usual note on`s and velocity? 
is it 
> >feasable?
> >
> >Also which other MIDI controllers does the XP format actually use 
and 
> >how?
> >
> >info much appreciated,
> >
> >thank you
> >robert.
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