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Re: [disklavier] Re: Velocity or Volume?...I must stop the pounding! GNMIDI

2007-01-18 by George F. Litterst

Good evening, everyone.

Regarding the message below from yadidisklavier:

We are talking about 2 completely different volume control issues:

(1) It is true that you can reduce the volume of the piano using the  
control unit or the remote control for your Disklavier. Internally,  
the instrument reduces the hammer velocities little by little as you  
reduce the volume setting. At some point, it engages the left pedal  
which moves the hammers closer to the strings thus reducing the  
hammer velocities even further.

(2) In my post, I was refering to a MIDI message in the the file  
itself called "controller 7" or "volume." The possible value ranges  
for this message are 0 to 127. The normal setting for this parameter  
is 100 for a Disklavier piano. Early Disklaviers (I think Mark II and  
before) paid no attention to this message.

Your instrument is actually a Mark IIXG and it does pay attention to  
the controller 7 MIDI message. However, you will not be able to  
change the controller 7 value without editing the file itself.

Regrettably, many MIDI files found on the Internet have the  
controller 7 value set rather high. In addition, the note-on  
velocities may be quite high. The result is that the file is much too  
loud when played on the Disklavier.

Regards,
PianoBench


On Jan 17, 2007, at 6:17 PM, yadidisklavier wrote:

> My Mark II responds to volume with the dampening pedal (far left).
> Is this going to have a different effect than velocity message? I'm
> afraid this is a whole new can of worms for me.
>
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst"
> <PianoBench@...> wrote:
> >
> > Good afternoon, everyone.
> >
> > If memory serves me correctly, the Mark II does not respond to
> volume
> > control (controller 7) messages. It does, of course, respond to
> note-
> > on velocity messages.
> >
> > I think that controller 7 was first implemented in the Mark IIXG.
> >
> > Regards,
> > PianoBench
> >
> >
> > On Jan 16, 2007, at 5:06 PM, James Fry wrote:
> >
> > > I haven't used this tool, but I suspect you want to reduce the
> > > velocities, as this is the individual note loudness. I would
> expect
> > > the
> > > volume control to insert controller 7 messages, which I think
> will
> > > have
> > > the same effect as adjusting the volume control on the piano
> control
> > > unit (on my MPX1Z Mark II this puts the "soft" pedal down)
> > >
> > > Give it a try and see what happens I guess!
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > > yadidisklavier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I know that this has been addressed many times by the group
> over the
> > > > years, but unfortunately, all of the posts have only led to more
> > > > confusion for me. Please help me by clarify?
> > > >
> > > > I recently purchased an MX100II Mark II. From previous pianos, I
> > > > already understand what happens to hammers from constant
> pounding.
> > > >
> > > > I recently purchased GNMIDI so I could batch convert midi files
> and
> > > > make them appropriate for the DKV. In the GNMIDI convert volume
> > > > function, the software gives two choices (radio buttons), one is
> > > > for "volume" and the other is for "velocity". There is a
> > > "percentage"
> > > > choice as well..this is self explanatory and an I believe I
> want a
> > > > value of 80% or less.
> > > >
> > > > Since I don't want to flat line velocity performance within a
> song,
> > > > should I just be selecting the "volume" option?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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