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Re: MX100 II Main LCD Display Problem and Solution

2007-02-15 by yadidisklavier

Thanks for the head up.  I'm guessing I would have figured that out 
when I looked closer.  Nonetheless, thanks.

Heres the rest of my story:  The tech called me yesterday and told me 
that Yamaha said these displays are on back order until June 2007.  
They've had a rash of replacements recently!  And "it seems that 
these are subjected to age failure".  $260 plus $100 labor, on top of 
the $75 labor (already paid) to diagnose.  Jeez, at least I have time 
to budget for it.


--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, n9544c@... wrote:
>
> DO NOT REMOVE ANY TWIST FASTENERS !!!
>  
> THe entire display comes as a unit; display itself, and PC Board 
permanently attached!
> The display will come out in one piece.
>  
> Mike 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yadidisklavier@...
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 7:48 AM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: MX100 II Main LCD Display Problem and 
Solution
> 
> 
> 
> lol - you're last sentence...thats my dillemma. Even though the 
tech 
> diagnosed the display as being bad, I could very well get a $250 
> display and find out there are other issues to diagnose. I think 
the 
> fact that there is a component (looks like a very small transistor 
or 
> diode)with a broken lead, was how he made the diagnosis. Sounds 
more 
> like an assumption to me. 
> 
> The board looks easy to take out. The hardest part being the metal 
> twist fasteners holding it in place. 
> 
> I'll just let the tech do it and hope this doesn't get any more 
> expensive.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Geoff
> 
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, n9544c@ wrote:
> >
> > If the control box was removed and you could see how that was 
done 
> and if you can see where the two cables from the display were 
plugged 
> in then you could try it yourself. The replacement display is 
simply 
> mounted like the old one and the cables plugged into the same 
> connectors being careful to install the connectors in the correct 
> orientation. This assumes that the display was definitely at fault 
> and all that is required is a new one.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: yadidisklavier@
> > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 2:23 PM
> > Subject: [disklavier] Re: MX100 II Main LCD Display Problem and 
> Solution
> > 
> > $74 dollars later....the LCD problem is diagnosed. It seems 
> that 
> > some components came loose off the LCD board. Because the board 
is 
> > printed circuitry, there isn't a chance of reattaching and the 
> > technician tried to call Yamaha today for a replacement. Yamaha 
> > wasn't open today..."carpet holiday"...what the heck is that? 
> > 
> > MIKE - it looks fairly simple plug-in procedure. Do you recommend 
> me 
> > going the distance and having the tech install the new board? I 
> > really hate paying someone for something I enjoy doing....keeping 
> in 
> > mind I have already paid him to diagnose.
> > 
> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, n9544c@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Glad to hear my post has helped someone else! Yes, the display 
> > will be lighted but no text visible unless you get the view angle 
> > just right and then it is only a "hint" of text. You will need to 
> > have the display replaced. I do not know your technical 
background 
> > but it is not that difficult - two connectors if I remember 
> correctly 
> > and a bunch of screws to get at it. If you are not confident in 
> this 
> > type of work I would seek professional assistance. If you are in 
> the 
> > Chicago area, I could help you with this but otherwise you will 
> need 
> > some assistance locally. You can order the part as described in 
my 
> > original post from Yamaha Disklavier technical support. Freddie 
at 
> > Yamaha technical support can help you with this.
> > > 
> > > Best Regards,
> > > 
> > > Mike
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: yadidisklavier@
> > > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:03 AM
> > > Subject: [disklavier] Re: MX100 II Main LCD Display Problem and 
> > Solution
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mike, 
> > > 
> > > I realize this is a very old message you put into Yahoo Groups. 
> > > Nonetheless, I'm hoping you are still here...
> > > 
> > > I have rec'd an MX100 II recently. While the control unit 
> (player) 
> > > operates fine (plays disks and midi in), the LCD screen is 
> totally 
> > > blank (like you described). However, my LCD screen is all lit 
up 
> > > (green) but without any text. Is this similar to what you 
> > > experienced?
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately, I cannot use any menus, record, etc. on the 
> player 
> > > itself until I resolve this issue. Any advice or information 
> would 
> > > be appreciated.
> > > 
> > > Thanks!
> > > 
> > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <n9544c@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > With great anticipation, I have received my "new" MX100 II 
and 
> it 
> > > > looks and plays beautifully! Thanks to the info here for 
> getting 
> > > me 
> > > > started on converting the midi files of old reproducing piano 
> > rolls 
> > > > to Disklavier format. The procedure is painless and the music 
> is 
> > > > wonderful.
> > > > 
> > > > I did have a problem in that the contrast on the LCD display 
> was 
> > so 
> > > > low that I could not see ANYTHING on the screen. Upon really 
> > close 
> > > > inspection with the room lights very low and looking at just 
> the 
> > > > right angle, I could just make out "Insert Disk."
> > > > 
> > > > Do any of you have a similar problem?
> > > > 
> > > > I have a technical background in electronics and armed with 
> the 
> > > > technical service manual from Yamaha and my test equipment, I 
> > > > diagnosed the problem to the display itself. This, I thought, 
> was 
> > > > odd in that I have never run into a display which faded to 
> > nothing 
> > > > over time.
> > > > 
> > > > In checking with the Yamaha technical staff, I found out that 
> > this 
> > > is 
> > > > not too uncommon for a display over 10 years old. I ordered a 
> new 
> > > > display module, installed the unit myself (about 1 hour of 
> very 
> > > > careful work)and...problem solved! Works like new! Well, it 
is 
> > > new, 
> > > > the display that is.
> > > > 
> > > > If you are suffering with a very light display, you may wish 
> to 
> > > > consider having your display replaced. The part is about $230 
> > > plus 
> > > > the installation time for your technician.
> > > > 
> > > > I have nothing but good things to say about Yamaha technical 
> > > > support. Every contact with them has been first class.
> > > > 
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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