The point is that I believe Yamaha uses one kind of wood for every destination. They cannot assume that the pianos (especially grand and disklavier) will be used by poor people in Asia who do not have airconditioner at their home. If they use this assumption, they will use less expensive drying process. As a result those pianos made with this assumption will crack once they face a dry airconditionered house. You have to know that people who purchase grand or disklavier are rich people who have their house airconditionered for 24/7. I just do not believe the notion that Yamaha made various pianos for different destination because of the aforementioned logic and also I had a month of practical training in Yamaha factory. I asked the workers about this. RS --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Jimmy Lewis <JimmyM@...> wrote: > > I don't know why this debate has been going so strong about different > piano. > > Let me just say dear Sir, that I live in Canada, where the winter are > cold and dry. My house will vary from 30% to 80 % humidity > during a year period. I also have central air, in summer the average > humidity factor is between 40-50%. > > So you can imagine that this kind of variation will really affect a > piano. Has to know if there is a marketing effect from Yamaha > regarding this, > I have to say that I have received a certificate indicating that my > piano was manufacturer from North America climate. As I have > travelled accros the continent many times, one thing I am aware is, > if you buy any type of wood furniture from a very humid place and > bring it back here, it will crack during its first winter, so if > Yamaha is using different type of wood, or at least use wood that is > dry slow enough to respond to our climate. > > That is why I believe Yamaha has made piano for respective country > climate. There might be a lot of similarities between some countries > but here I would not like to own a piano that was made in India. As > for the rest for the electronic parts, this is another story. > > Hope this input will help and stop the big debate about cheaper > piano, you get what you pay for. > > Jimmy > Le 07-08-28 à 17:45, rondisklavier a écrit : > > > George, > > > > You are correct about home in the US, Canada etc. > > However, you assumption is that people in Asia do not use > > airconditioning.Human beings are the same, nobody likes humid > > environment. Therefore, the people who bought piano (especilly > > Disklavier), they are NOT poor people. They also have central air > > conditioner and they do turn on their air conditioner 24/7. As a > > result, the environment where those pianos experience is exactly the > > same as in US...As dry as in US. Are those pianos cracking? No, they > > are not. I had my C5 in Indonesia for years and it did not crack (my > > house is 100% air conditionered for 24 hours. How about the pianos > > in Yamaha Music Foundation that are in 100% airconditioner > > environment for years, do Yamaha Music Foundation in Indonesia needs > > to import special pianos for their music schools? > > > > Sorry not to be argumentative, but we do need to know the condition > > is Asia, before we assume that those people do not live in an > > airconditioner environment. Once again, what you said is correct, > > out side wheather has nothing to do. The inside climate is the more > > important one. > > > > RS > > > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst" > > <PianoBench@> wrote: > > > > > > Good afternoon, everyone. > > > > > > Regarding the comment below from rondisklavier: > > > > > > It is true that in a large country like the US, the average > > humidity > > > various from location to location. The key point, however, is > > this: > > > No matter where you go in the US and Canada, in all likelihood, > > the > > > indoor environment has central heating and/or air conditioning > > that > > > is active for a significant portion of the year. Both central > > heating > > > and air conditioning dry out the interior air. In order to stand > > up > > > to this kind of stress, the wood needs to be dried to a low > > moisture > > > content. > > > > > > The outdoor humidity is irrelevant. > > > > > > Regards, > > > PianoBench > > > > > > > > > On Aug 28, 2007, at 3:25 PM, rondisklavier wrote: > > > > > > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > For instance, it is cheaper to manufacture a piano for the > > Asian > > > > market > > > > > because the wood does not need to to kiln dried to 5% moisture > > > > content to > > > > > > > > Carol, > > > > > > > > Asia is much bigger than America. There is not only one climate > > in > > > > Asia. How about people in Hawaii? Does Yamaha make a special > > piano for > > > > people in Hawaii or people in Texas? Your argument just does not > > make > > > > sense and without base. And about the connectors, Yamaha hires > > cheap > > > > labor in many places, do you think that they expect these low > > paid > > > > laborers to do soldering? I did work for a month in Yamaha > > factory, > > > > everything is well planned, everything just needs to be > > connected... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jimmy L. >
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Re: gray market disklaviers (was owners manual)
2007-08-28 by rondisklavier
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