Disklavier

No it doesn't, it's a lot of crap. :)

With the air on here full time in Fl it's 60% humidity, if I move to  
Phoenix it will routinely get below 10%, stay within the US all would  
be ok by Y. If I move to Europe all bets are off...

The BS meter is pegged on this one.  ;)

JI





On Aug 28, 2007, at 5:56 PM, rondisklavier wrote:

> I guess it will crack into small pieces....:))
> It just does not make sense, does it!!!
>
>
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, John Isella <jjisella@...> wrote:
>>
>> So what do I do with my Disklavier that I have here in Florida
> when I
>> move to Phoenix?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Carol Beigel wrote:
>>
>>> Would be nice maybe, but that is not how it works.  It is
> extremely
>>> difficult to get Disklavier parts in the US for graymarket
> units.
>>> The piano
>>> parts are often different as their dimensions are not always
> the
>>> same.  The
>>> pianos will not hold up very well in dryness caused by central
> heating
>>> systems.
>>>
>>> The electronic parts are not UL approved and therefore can
> create a
>>> liability for the supplier.  On a gray market Disklavier, many
>>> connections
>>> are soldered and not easy to repair; but their made-for-the US
>>> counterparts
>>> have nice little connectors on both the circuit boards and the
> wires.
>>>
>>> Mostly people who import gray market pianos are smaller
> operators and
>>> wholesalers.  They are not bound by Yamaha's service bonds with
> their
>>> dealers.
>>>
>>> And lastly, Yamaha is not just one big corporation.  The U.S.
>>> Division, the
>>> Canadian, the Japanese, etc. divisions are completely
> independent
>>> from one
>>> another.  They do not have a central supplier.  Pianos are made
>>> differently
>>> for these different markets because it costs a lot more money
> to
>>> make a
>>> piano for a country that has homes whose moisture contents is
> very low
>>> during winter.
>>>
>>> In my opinion as a piano and Disklavier technician, I would
> never
>>> recommend
>>> purchasing a graymarket piano or Disklavier.  Those up front
> supposed
>>> savings can be a huge headache if the piano ever needs
> servicing.
>>> One good
>>> thunderstorm can wipe out your investment.
>>>
>>> Carol Beigel
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "rondisklavier" <setiawansr@...>
>>> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:46 AM
>>> Subject: [disklavier] Re: gray market disklaviers (was owners
> manual)
>>>
>>>
>>>> I really believe people also can get gray Yamaha parts easily
> from
>>>> abroad. If they can import such a humagous piano, importing
> small
>>>> parts should not be a problem. Therefore, I really do not think
> that
>>>> people need to worry about buying gray pianos, especially if the
>>>> price is very reasonable. I myself just bought MX100II made for
> US.
>>>> I personally do not want to have unnecessary hazels if my piano
> is
>>>> broken and need to get parts from outside of the US. But for
> those
>>>> who have bought gray pianos, I do not think that it is the end
> of
>>>> the world if their pianos are broken. The chance of Yamaha
> pianos go
>>>> bad is very small.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst"
>>>> <PianoBench@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good evening, everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know the details about how parts are controlled.
> However,
>>>> my
>>>>> local piano technician tells me that he is required to produce
> a
>>>>> serial number when he orders a part from Yamaha.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> PianoBench
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 27, 2007, at 11:51 PM, rondisklavier wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst"
>>>>>> <PianoBench@> wrote:
>>>>>> I have another question "How does Yamaha know whether they are
>>>>>> selling parts to fix a gray market piano?". Does Yamaha only
> sell
>>>>>> parts through their dealers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you purchase a piano that was not made for North America,
>>>> you
>>>>>>> cannot get parts and service from Yamaha Corporation of
>>>> America.
>>>>>> And,
>>>>>>> it is advisable to keep up the relative humidity in your home
>>>>>> year
>>>>>>> round.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> PianoBench
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2007, at 11:57 PM, rondisklavier wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I always have question regarding the statement below. How
>>>> Yamaha
>>>>>>>> manufactured for special market, for example US. US climate
>>>> is
>>>>>> not one
>>>>>>>> climate. There are as many climate as those of in Asia (from
>>>>>> South
>>>>>>>> East Asia to Japan). In addition, when I was in my senior
>>>> year in
>>>>>>>> college, I had a practical training in Yamaha factory in
>>>> Jakarta,
>>>>>>>> Indonesia, and I was not aware that they make different
>>>> pianos
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> different climates.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel"
> <carolrpt@>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Their
>>>>>>>>> products are manufactured specifically for different
>>>> markets.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> pianos in
>>>>>>>>> particular are not interchangeable!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Carol Beigel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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