Ed, I have to agree with you. We should have a free flow of information and let people make their own decisions, nobody’s opinion should be shouted down.
I understand the reasoning of different countries having different climates, but there is always going to be exceptions, somebody will have air conditioning where it’s not expected, I don’t believe that Yamaha thinks it’s okay for their pianos to fall apart in these situations.
Also, to use Carol’s example of a Mercedes designed for the U.S. market, Mercedes doesn’t design special engines for the U.S. This is far too costly, instead they may throw on an extra pair of catalytic converters, slightly tweak the programming or something minor, but certainly not a unique engine.
Gray market units are common among many products. In every case that I’m familiar with, the only difference in the products is in the length of the warranty and where it will be honored, if they provide a longer warranty honored in the U.S. then this costs more so they want to sell it for more. We have one car dealership who specializes in gray market Toyotas. They’re able to sell the cars for less and they do all of the warranty work. The warranty is not available at any other dealership. For many people this restriction is worth the cost savings.
paul
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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
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Of rondisklavier
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 7:06
AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Re: gray
market disklaviers (was owners manual)
Richard,
There is no doubt that Carol is very knowledgable in disklavier.
However, this is a discussion group. None of the postings from the
opposing view from that of Carol's are disrespect or codecending.
Your posting is the one that sounded arrogant and hostile, just see
your opening statement "Whom do you believe"
Athomik or me and others, just to try to find out the truth base on
the size of the pianos and other means (my own experience working at
Yamaha factory) to find out whether Yamaha really makes different
pianos for American market. We are not advocating gray market
pianos. Once again we just want find the truth of Yamaha statement.
Based on the observations, it just seems very unlikely Yamaha
changes their production processes. You can imagine how costly to
customize every single components just for US market. On the other
had, it will be a costly process to build non US market because they
have to hire skillful technicians to assemble non US market pianos,
(they have to solder things instead of using connectors). These are
the logic that I use. If you do not agree with the logic, give us
the reasoning. Not only saying "Whom do you believe". It is not
conductive in a newsgroup discussion forum. It is the same like
saying "I am the king, you listen what I say".
I personally own a disklavier so called made for American market (I
have checked the serial number in YCA website). I am just curious
whether there is any different between the American market's pianos
and the non American pianos.
RS
--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com,
"Richard Kerr" ...>
wrote:
>
> Whom do you believe--a highly, skilled technician, who has devoted
a near lifetime to the art of servicing Disklaviers every day,--or
opinionated, arrogant "experts" whose logic relies solely on
assumption, presumption, and downright guessing for their claimed
knowledge and expertise?
>
> I will go with the former, whom we have all learned to trust
implicitly for accurate, unequivocal, and above all, practical
information and advice. It is the height of arrogance to argue and
speculate about "in the field" experience of such significent depth
and dimension. We are well aware of the credentials of the former.
Where and what are the credentails of those with all the opinions?
>
> Based upon what I have read here, this is my sim
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