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Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV

2007-11-12 by Cheetham

Kevin,
This is great being able to control the piano from my office via the 
computer. 
Is the ability to change song titles already built in or are you 
working on that? Using the PDA to do this is painfully slow.
Alos wonder if you plan to add drag and drop from a computer folder 
to the piano?
Great job and thanks to the Christopoher and Matthew at UCI for 
starting this.
Howard

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, hugofon@... wrote:
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> Kevin,
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> I think it would be a good idea if the playlists?on the PDA can be 
copied to DKVBrowser.??And you are right about the PDA being 
clunky.....?So if DKVBrowser can support drag and drop playlists 
similar to most of the media players out there, it would be a great 
time saving tool to create new playlists suitable for the mood of the 
evening.? Would it be possible for the DKVBrowser playlists to be 
copied to the PDA/piano?? I am not really sure?if that information is 
stored on the PDA or the piano.
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> Editing the song info in the Browser would indeed be a nice feature 
to have too.? I remember reading many previous posts with questions 
about editing the metadata of the songs.? It sounds like the 
possibilities are endless here.? 
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> I did not have an issue with the IP address.? My laptop?was 
configured to accept DHCP assignment, and the Disklavier access point 
assigned the same dummy IP of 192.168.88.14 to my wireless card every 
time a connection was made.??I also noticed that?a connection could 
be made even when the paino was?in standby mode. Perhaps the access 
point was simply waiting for the PDA to be turned on.? Also, by 
launching the DKVBrowser and searching for softwares, the piano came 
out of the standby mode and could start playing.
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> Please keep up the good work.? Thanks again.
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> Hugo
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 8:08 am
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV
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> Wow, Hugo, thank you!
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> I was really concerned that it wouldn't work at all, so this is 
really encouraging!
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> How would you envision the playlists working?? Just mimic the 
playlists that are already on the piano?? That might be simplest.? 
Since I'm so new to the piano itself, I haven't played with playlists 
at all.? The PDA/table interface feels clunky, so I'd really like 
DKVBrowser to evolve into something that supports drag and drop to 
create playlists.? Also, editing of song titles, etc. right in the 
browser would be nice as well.
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> -Kevin
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "hugofon@..." <hugofon@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:40:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV
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> Kevin,
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> I just tried your alpha release.? Wow, it works great on my DC2 
Mark IV. I don't have any problem at all.? I have a database of 
approximately 500 songs on the hard drive, and the browser produces a 
very accurate list of my softwares.? 
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> I have been following this discussion closely, but I have not 
participated in the discussion as I am really not a computer guy and 
have nothing techical to contribute.? Thank you so much for taking 
your time to work on this project.? Your work is greatly 
appreciated.? I can't wait for your future releases with more 
functionalities. ..... Perhaps a playlist or my favorites would be 
wonderful.? Thanks again.
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> Hugo
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 4:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV
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> Well, I uploaded the alpha release.
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> Please try it out and let me know how it goes.? This is my first 
ever java app, and getting these things into a working jar file was 
an experience!? The uploaded rar file includes the swt.jar for 
windows, with instructions for where to find it for other operating 
systems.
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> It's pretty crude at the moment, and doesn't yet support exporting 
the data.? There's probably lots of other things it doesn't support 
as well, since I have limited experience with the piano itself.? It 
also has only been tested against my piano which has very little 
data, so I don't know how well it behaves with HUGE databases.? Okay, 
enough disclaimers. ..Have fun!
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> -Kevin
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matthew Teeter <mrmuk7@gmail. com>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 6:00:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV
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> I believe <remake_db/> is sent when a usb drive is inserted or 
removed.? There may be some attributes on there that tell you which 
db, or it might be something like "Update your local cache of the db 
now".? 
> If you make a query while the software is building the table, you 
will see the songs that have been added at that point in time.? This 
shouldn't be of much concern; it usually only takes 30 sec to add 
everything to the songs table, even for large amounts of files on a 
drive. 
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> I don't think there was a column for artist.? If there was, I think 
it contained the same info as the title.? But yes, Yamaha seems to 
put the artist within the title.? I believe you can set the comment 
on the song and album using the PRC's keyboard.? Hardly anyone would 
want to though - quite a laborious task poking tiny buttons.? I also 
seem to remember being able to set the songs rating from 1 to 5 stars 
using the PRC/TRC.? Never investigated that much personally though. 
> Matthew
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> On 11/9/07, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com> wrote: 
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> Matthew,
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> I'm at work, so I can't check now, but does the piano send any 
notification of when it has finished building the table? 
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> I've seen <remake_db /> come out for both the CD and the FD even 
though there was nothing mounted.
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> Any way to query for what is already mounted? 
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> Otherwise...
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> There had been a request for the ability to search by artist, but I 
don't see anything explicit in the schema for artist.? It looks like 
it is normally stored as part of the song title (judging from the 
demos).? This will work fine with my current search. 
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> The fields which might be interesting to search by are as follows:
> song filename (already done)
> song rating (is there any current way to give a song a rating?? If 
not, I wouldn't want to assume one and break a future release.)
> song "your_record" (No idea what is here, maybe nothing, and no way 
to set it? 
> song comment (is there any way to enter this currently?)
> song title (already done)
> song subtitle (already done)
> song genre (is there any way to enter this currently?)
> album rating (see song rating)
> album comment (is there any way to enter this currently?) 
> album title (already done)
> album subtitle (are these used?)
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> Anyway, adding others is trivial at this point.? So, I'll have to 
investigate what is in the database when I get home.
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> -Kevin
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matthew Teeter <mrmuk7@gmail. com>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 10:27:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV
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> The tables for each media (ex. usb_album and usb_song) are only 
created when that media is inserted.? It takes a few seconds for the 
software to create the table, so if you insert and immediately query, 
you will miss results.? The tables are recreated each insertion.? 
This is discussed more in our paper. 
> Matthew
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> I made a bunch of progress last night.? Search is fully 
implemented, and works great (and FAST).? Of course, my database is 
tiny compared to some of yours, so I'll have to get some feedback 
from those of you who try it. 
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> I did expect the USB and FLOPPY tables to exist in the database 
even when they weren't mounted...but that turned out not to be the 
case.? So, tonight I have to work on some code to understand when 
those are mounted and when they aren't. 
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> I have no plans to support the copying of files between the 
sources, especially the protected ones.? 
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> Release this weekend (as an alpha version) is looking quite likely.
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> -Kevin
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@nc. rr.com >
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> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
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> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2007 6:29:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for 
MKIV 
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> Kevin,
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> It is scenario no. 3 below that describes how my Mark IV is 
connected.
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> Again, thanks for working on this and I look forward to ultimately 
trying out your work when you are ready to release it. ? 
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> On Nov 8, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Kevin Goroway wrote:
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> Well, one of things everyone will need to understand is the 
requirements for using it...so no harm in leaving it in this thread 
for now.
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> I still think we have some confusion over what you are seeing on 
wireless.? So, let me try again. 
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> Scenario #1) You have a wireless card on your computer, you have 
nothing connected to your DKV's ethernet port.
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> In this scenario, your wireless card might tell you that there is a 
wireless access point out there, and you can hop on it, but there is 
nothing to be found.? And, you have no access whatsoever to the 
To/From PC folder. 
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> Scenario #2) Like #1, but you have a hard wire connection to your 
router/switch from the DKV's ethernet port.
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> Like the first scenario, but now you have access to the To/From PC 
folder.
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> Scenario #3) Like #1, but you have attacted wireless hardware to 
the DKV's ethernet port, turning it into a wireless device. 
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> In this situation, your wireless card has 2 choices.? One is the 
access point connected to the DKV's ethernet port, the other is the 
access point that the PDA/Tablet use.? If your wireless card attached 
to one, you'll see the To/From PC folder, if it attaches to the 
other...there' s nothing to be found. 
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> Just to be clear, in all 3 of those cases you can use the software, 
just as long as you can convince your wireless card to hop onto the 
access point that is there for the PDA.
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> Your wife can certainly contact me directly.? I plan to put the 
searching in this weekend, and have the source code ready for release 
before Monday.? (although you threw in the new feature of being able 
to search by artist which I hadn't considered. :-)? ) 
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