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Re: [disklavier] Re: MIDI compatibility with Clavinova?

2007-11-23 by George F. Litterst

Good afternoon, everyone.

To explain further:

When you make a voice selection on a Clavinova, Disklavier, or other  
MIDI device, you are not really choosing "bass," "draw organ," or any  
particular sound. What you are selecting is a particular voice NUMBER  
in a particular voice set.

So, if you choose voice 22 in a voice set called DOC, you will not get  
the same sound that you will get when you choose voice 22 in a GM set  
or an XG set.

These days, if you want maximum compatibility with keyboards and tone  
generators that most people have, you should stick with the General  
MIDI (GM) voice set. If you want a broader range of voice options and  
are willing to forego compatibility with many playback devices, you  
can use XG instead. Relatively modern Clavinova CVPs and Disklaviers  
support the basic 480 voice XG set, as do many other contemporary  
Yamaha keyboards and a few from other manufacturers.

When an XG file is played back on a GM instrument that does not have  
the XG voices, most of the voice mapping will work out reasonably well.

Regards,
PianoBench


On Nov 23, 2007, at 12:22 PM, david962548 wrote:

> Hi
>
> Midi IS Midi. But I would think you have a "Disk Orchestra
> Collection" disk. If this is so, then the Clavinova uses a DOC map
> which is NOT GM nor is it XG. If it is DOC then it has a SysEX
> command in it to tell the clavinova to use the DOC map and NOT a
> Midi map.
>
> Midi Magic
>
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "kgoroway" <kgoroway@...> wrote:
> >
> > I always thought MIDI was MIDI, but I'm encountering some strange
> > behavior.
> >
> > Given a Yamaha clavinova, producing a simple jazz Trio, piano on
> track
> > 1, drumkit on track 10, and a bass line on track 11. Plays and
> sounds
> > great on the Clavinova.
> >
> > Spit out a MIDI file, and put it on the Disklavier and the bass
> line
> > is gone. Look at the tracks, and it thinks that track 11 is
> a "Draw
> > Organ".
> >
> > Open the MIDI file on a PC, and it also is confused about track 11,
> > but has yet another idea about what instrument is there.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > -Kevin
> >
>
>
>

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