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Re: Mark IV Disklavier DKVBrowser with Macintosh works ... Thanks Nancy

2007-12-31 by jheitzeb1

Kevin,

I did not try using the EXIT function from the menu.  But I did try quiting from the menu.  
If you use the red button on the Mac DKVBrowser application window to quit the program, 
the message or option to put the piano in standby mode is given.  If you use, this means 
to quit DKVBrowser then there is barely a problem with having to reconnect twice and 
seems to run flawlessly.

If you use the "Quit" from menubar, you will find that the program does not really quit and 
you end up having to "force quit" from the application icon that is in the Macintosh dock.  

I have also found out that if you (Step 1) either put your mail program into a "manual 
mode to get mail" or put it in "offline mode" and also leave your internet browser 
application open and (Step 2) then use the airport icon along the right side of the Mac 
menubar to choose between your home network (which runs your internet and mail 
servicees) and the disklavier network (usually DKV ##### where ##### or numbers) that 
the DKV Browser application seems to run just fine.  In other words, it is not necessary to 
quit the Mail app or Internet Browser applications when using airport extreme network.  

We are able to have our piano in standby mode, switch to the DKV ##### network after 
adjusting our mail app and then search or select a piano song, playlist and play that song, 
then immediately switch back to our internet or mail.  Of course at this point the network 
connection with the disklavier is broken, but the piano continues to play the list of songs 
or songs in an album or single song.  We can  then switch back as we wish to control the 
piano as long as we disable the get mail mode.   This just requires that we close the 
current DKV Browser window using the red button to quit and selecting "no" to put piano 
in standby and relaunch the DKV  Browser program again for control or selection of more 
songs.

It works fine for us and we can use any of 3 or 4 computers on the network in our home to 
control the piano.  It has been great!  It does what I want, search and play and control 
volume and extra nice to actually put in and out of standby from another part of the 
house.

The other features for editing and such would be nice, but love what you have so far and 
addresses what my foremost wish which was for searching and cataloging capability.

I will be glad to test any new versions as they come around.  

I have not gotten the "Clear" button to actually work or the "Find" button at the bottom of 
the screen.  I assumed the "Clear" button was to clear the text in search text box, but it 
appears to not do anything.    I assume the "Find" button was to find the current song 
playing and this function does not seem to work as well.  

I saw that when under the "pianosoft" or "user tabs" that a comment edit field did appear 
when I double clicked in those areas of screen (column 2).  But I did not try to type 
anything in to those text fields yet.  When I went to the third column (for rating I  believe) 
the rating pop-down menu with stars appeared on the screen and I was able to select a 
star, but a strange thing happened and this pop-down menu field then appeared in the 
second column and even when I scrolled down to refresh the screen it remained.  So I 
believe I left that tab and came back, not sure if it disappeared at that point or not.  
Figuring that these features not working fully, I opted not to write to my hard drive yet.  

The F1 and F2 keys on my laptop are assigned to screen brightness currently and have not 
tested on my Mac Pro to see if I can edit titles.   I did attempt to move or copy a file in my 
user library and it came up with a menu option with two choices:  make an album and 
delete a file.  I choose make an album and I created to blank albums in my user library.  
No files were moved or copied as far as I  could tell and opted to stop at this point.

I will play with some more and get more details of the steps to better document what 
occurs.  

Joan




--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...> wrote:
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> Joan,
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> I'm glad you are having fun with DKVBrowser.  I primarily wrote it because of the lack of 
a search feature, and it grew from there.  The volume control, and lots of other things 
came from user requests...so keep 'em coming!
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> The two starts issue is most likely a weak network signal.  I have that problem 
occasionally as well.  Someone on the list said there is a way to boost the signal that 
comes from the piano, but I haven't heard anything more on that topic.  It's worse when 
DKVBrowser looses the signal while it is working (I haven't written the code to detect that 
yet).
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> There are lots of great uses for the comments section, I think.  I like to put the original 
artist in there...so, that way I can search for say "Billy Joel" and find all of his songs that I 
have stored.  It was always there, but there was no way to search, so they were pretty 
useless...forget about how hard it is to enter them from the PDA!
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> You question about it being available on the Mac deserves special attention.  There is no 
such thing as a Mac version, per se.  Since it's written in java, there is only one version.  All 
features are available everywhere (including Linux, but I don't think anyone is using it on 
Linux yet).  There are a few points though along these lines.
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> 1) I've been told that the menu "Exit" doesn't ask the question about putting the piano 
in standby on the Mac.  Since I don't have a Mac, I can't do much about this.  I also 
understand that the menu system is different on the Mac, so that is probably the cause.  
It's very likely that I could do something different in the code to support this, but I haven't 
stumbled across anything (nor have I searched!).
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> 2) Nancy has been packaging a special Mac version that makes it much easier to get up 
and running the first time.  There were times when that packaged version was a release or 
so behind the latest.  However, once I stop adding external libraries (it doesn't happen 
often), you will always be able to take the latest primary release, and replace a single file 
in your working installation from it and you will be current.
> 
> Enjoy!
> -Kevin
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> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: jheitzeb1 <jheitzeb1@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 11:22:53 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: Mark IV Disklavier DKVBrowser with Macintosh works ... Thanks 
Nancy
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> Thanks for all the time and effort in developing this software for the Mark IV and 
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> Macintosh.  I know that we will truly enjoy controlling the piano and volume from our 
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> It is still taking us two starts of application to get connection to work and also have to 
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> force quit from the Mac doc, but otherwise working well.  My husband is using it now 
and 
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> is in seventh heaven now that he can find a song so easily.  I originally set up all the 
midis 
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> on albums on the Mark IV and he had no idea where the files were located and now he 
can 
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> find them with your great search routine.  Thanks .... Thanks ... Thanks ..... 
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> I have not tried editing song names or making playlists, is this available on the Mac 
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> Joan
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> --- In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@ .> wrote:
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> > This is great news!  Thanks for the update.
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> > I'm currently working on supporting cut/copy/paste of songs, and entire albums 
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> > During this coding effort I discovered a bug that I wanted to bring to everyone's 
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> attention, because it could actually be harmful.
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> > The default operation on a drag is a "MOVE" instead of a "COPY".  Normally this is fine, 
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> but since the piano software itself doesn't have a concept of "MOVE", I am simulating it 
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> doing a copy followed by a delete.  Again, normally this is fine...unless the copy 
operation 
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> actually fails...in which case, it still goes ahead and DELETES the source.  This is really 
bad, 
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> since I noticed that the only way I've been able to make it happen is when I tried to 
move a 
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> painosoft (protected! from copying) song to my From/To PC folder.  Of course, the 
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> operation failed (the song was protected), but then DKVBrowser went ahead and deleted 
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> the file!  This is exactly what you wouldn't want to happen...
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> > Unfortunately, this isn't an easy thing to solve, so one of the solutions on my list is to 
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> remove the concept of "moving" anything...and allow the user to manually delete to 
source 
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> > Anyway, please be careful until this is solved.  As I've always said, "Use at your own 
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> risk." but I certainly want it to be completely safe.
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> > -Kevin
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> > ----- Original Message ----
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> > From: jheitzeb1 <jheitzeb1@ ..>
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> > To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
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> > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:35:36 PM
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> > Subject: [disklavier] Mark IV Disklavier DKVBrowser with Macintosh works ... Thanks 
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> > I now have an exported list of all the midis and professional albums on my Mark IV.  
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