Al,
Goto the link
http://dkvbrowser.sourceforge.net/
Click on SourceForge Forum
Select the Forums Tab
Select Forums Summary under the above tab.
Click on the folder Open Discussions and you will see messages concerning the DKV
Browser testing and comments.
Hope this helps you find our discussion.
Joan
--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Albert Edwards <acejazz@...> wrote:
>
> How do I get to the analysis of the DKVBrowser?
> Al Edwards
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: jheitzeb1 <jheitzeb1@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2008 12:54:01 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: Mark IV Disklavier DKVBrowser with Macintosh works ... Thanks
Nancy
>
> Kevin,
>
> I posted this analysis of the DKVBrowser on the site.
>
> Joan
>
> --- In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Joan,
> >
> > Thanks for the very clear descriptions! Some seem to be real, while others just require
> some explaining.
> >
> > I'd like to move the entire conversation and bug reporting over to the sourceforge
forum
> though, since many people on this list have no interest in DKVBrowser.
> >
> > One point I did want to make here, since some users may not follow the conversation
> after we move it, is that operations that require you to stop playing will normally either
tell
> you that, or not be available in the first place. It turns out that adding a comment to a
> song, or setting its rating can be done while the piano is playing, so there's no reason to
> stop when doing that.
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: jheitzeb1 <jheitzeb1@ ..>
> > To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 7:41:37 PM
> > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Mark IV Disklavier DKVBrowser with Macintosh works ...
Thanks
> Nancy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kevin,
> >
> >
> >
> > The "CLEAR" button seems to be working fine and does clear out the Search for Text
Box
> >
> > as I suspected. I believe when I was running this testing on my laptop G4 (which runs
> >
> > considerably slower) than my Mac Pro (that I am now using) ... it may have worked I
just
> >
> > became inpatient for the results and aborted the program as it seemed to hang when
it
> >
> > fact it was just probably my impatience.
> >
> >
> >
> > I tried the "FIND" button again as well on the Mac Pro and see that it works ... it
actually
> >
> > highlights the file in the Song/Album Title list in the scrolling window. I guess I just
> >
> > expected it would put the name below in the Now playing text box when that title
was
> >
> > missing. Again, may have been my misunderstanding of what was suppose to occur
> and
> >
> > also the slower machine's response.
> >
> >
> >
> > So I would say these two buttons do indeed work on a Mac as well.
> >
> >
> >
> > As far as EDITING THE SONG TITLES. I have selected a song and tried pressing the F1
> key
> >
> > on the Mac keyboard .... it appears that I am not able to edit that title. I thought it
was
> >
> > because I was playing the song and also tried after pressing "STOP" and it still did not
> >
> > allow me to edit the title field. In fact the DKV Browser closed and quit.
> >
> >
> >
> > First Attempt: EDITING A COMMENT. I first tried double clicking on the second column
> >
> > (comment field) and a text box came up. The song was playing at the time. I started
> >
> > typing "this is a comment" and it seemed to be putting the text into the text box,
> >
> > however, the text was invisible or white. Then the dkvbrowser unexpectedly quit
again.
> I
> >
> > then realized that I probably should have stopped the song from playing before
editing
> >
> > (just as you do on the pda which has a warning to that effect as I recall). Anyway, now
> >
> > when I restarted the dkvbrowser, and searched for that song .... the comment was in
> the
> >
> > field.
> >
> >
> >
> > Second attempt: EDITING A COMMENT. I selected another tune in the list. I turned the
> >
> > piano to stop. I double clicked the comment field and the same thing occured as
above.
> I
> >
> > was able to type. It seems the field appears to be invisible, but in actually maybe the
> text
> >
> > box is so narrow that I am not actually able to see the fonts. The program again
> >
> > unexpectedly quit. When I restarted the dkvbrowser again, and located that song that
I
> >
> > commented ... the comment was in the field.
> >
> >
> >
> > Third attempt: EDITING THE COMMENT FIELD. This time was able to type the comment
> >
> > .... still because the text box is so narrow the text I type seems or appears to be
> invisible,
> >
> > but at least this time the program did not quit and after hitting return the text did
> appear
> >
> > as typed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Testing the RATING FIELD. Looks like it is working fine. I am not playing a song. So
> >
> > possibly this is why I was getting the weird rating field problem before. I just need to
> >
> > realize that when in EDIT mode, stop all playing first.
> >
> >
> >
> > So looks like I can add in comments and ratings, but CAN NOT edit titles or filenames.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have made it a point in past that if it is popular song and known author I sometimes
> >
> > include this in the song titles at the end of title in parenthesis. So I do have some
> singers
> >
> > in titles which helps bring up some of the songs in a search. The comment field idea
is
> a
> >
> > good one for storing such info.
> >
> >
> >
> > My husband has made a note to me that when "QUIET MODE" has been selected the
> >
> > volume control has no effect on the speaker volume. We hardly ever use "Quiet Mode"
so
> >
> > this is of little consequence for us. It is my guess that the volume control that you
have
> is
> >
> > basically for the piano midi mode only.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the documentation, there is a reference to "REFRESH". I do not seem to have a menu
> >
> > option or button in dkvbrowser that indicates REFRESH.
> >
> >
> >
> > I find that the LOAD & PLAY button does work, but on a Macintosh if you double click
> the
> >
> > song title it automatically loads and starts to play the song, which is what a normal
Mac
> >
> > user would probably do and was glad that it worked as I hoped it would.
> >
> >
> >
> > On the Mac version we do not have a + to EXPAND THE PLAYLIST. We have RIGHT
> ARROWS
> >
> > (next to the album names) and if we click on them they become down arrows and the
> >
> > songs in the playlist are displayed below the playlist folder name.
> >
> >
> >
> > The Macintosh mouse doesn't normally have a RIGHT or left button like the PC mouse,
> >
> > therefore it is not clear how I would CREATE A NEW ALBUM OR PLAYLIST.
> >
> >
> >
> > So in conclusion, I would say any options for PC that use F1, F2 or RIGHT CLICKING do
> >
> > NOT work on the Macintosh. So deleting, editing and adding are not doable on the
Mac.
> >
> >
> >
> > Testing the COPY MODE: When I tried holding down the Ctrl key while dragging a
song
> >
> > from one album to another, I remembered to stop the playing of song first. As I
> dragged
> >
> > the file from one album to the other album, a small square (no icon picture inside)
> >
> > appeared and the menu where 1st option in menu was greyed and second option "to
> >
> > delete that file " was only option. It did delete the file, but did not copy to the other
> >
> > folder. No problem as it was a in consequential midi file (glad I didn't select
something
> >
> > important, but heeded your earlier warning).
> >
> >
> >
> > Testing the MOVE MODE: Worked great. Key here to make sure things are stopped. It
> >
> > moved the file from one album to another (deleting it from first album and moving it
to
> >
> > second album)
> >
> >
> >
> > Because of the absence of the RIGHT CLICK BUTTON on the Mac mouse, the DELETE
> option
> >
> > is not doable.
> >
> >
> >
> > HOPE THIS HELPS.
> >
> >
> >
> > Joan
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@ .> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Joan,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Thanks for the feedback...I think you have found some real issues with the Mac
> version.
> >
> > Maybe Nancy can confirm them.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I think that a standard Mac application doesn't have an Exit item on the File menu
> >
> > anyway, so I may try to remove that when running on a Mac.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > The "Clear" button works fine, as far as I know, and this is the first report of it not
> >
> > working.
> >
> > > The "Find" button does as you suspect, and this is the first report of it not working
as
> >
> > well.
> >
> > > This is also the first report of the ratings dropdown doing something weird...
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Almost all of the operations that you haven't tried yet are fairly well tested already
(at
> >
> > least on a PC), and the majority of what DKVBrowser does to affect the piano it does
in
> the
> >
> > exact same way as the PDA, so it's relatively safe. The places to tread lightly (and I
only
> >
> > say this to protect myself, really) are where DKVBrowser is doing something that isn't
> >
> > otherwise available via the PDA (The concept of a MOVE for example doesn't exist on
the
> >
> > PDA), but I now think I have a pretty simple solution for testing when the copy fails,
and
> >
> > that will be fixed in the next version.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > -Kevin
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> >
> > > From: jheitzeb1 <jheitzeb1@ ..>
> >
> > > To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> >
> > > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 5:55:14 PM
> >
> > > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Mark IV Disklavier DKVBrowser with Macintosh works ...
> Thanks
> >
> > Nancy
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Kevin,
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I did not try using the EXIT function from the menu. But I did try quiting from the
> >
> > menu.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > If you use the red button on the Mac DKVBrowser application window to quit the
> >
> > program,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > the message or option to put the piano in standby mode is given. If you use, this
> >
> > means
> >
> > >
> >
> > > to quit DKVBrowser then there is barely a problem with having to reconnect twice
and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > seems to run flawlessly.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > If you use the "Quit" from menubar, you will find that the program does not really
quit
> >
> > and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > you end up having to "force quit" from the application icon that is in the Macintosh
> >
> > dock.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I have also found out that if you (Step 1) either put your mail program into a
"manual
> >
> > >
> >
> > > mode to get mail" or put it in "offline mode" and also leave your internet browser
> >
> > >
> >
> > > application open and (Step 2) then use the airport icon along the right side of the
Mac
> >
> > >
> >
> > > menubar to choose between your home network (which runs your internet and mail
> >
> > >
> >
> > > servicees) and the disklavier network (usually DKV ##### where ##### or numbers)
> that
> >
> > >
> >
> > > the DKV Browser application seems to run just fine. In other words, it is not
necessary
> >
> > to
> >
> > >
> >
> > > quit the Mail app or Internet Browser applications when using airport extreme
> network.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > We are able to have our piano in standby mode, switch to the DKV ##### network
> after
> >
> > >
> >
> > > adjusting our mail app and then search or select a piano song, playlist and play that
> >
> > song,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > then immediately switch back to our internet or mail. Of course at this point the
> >
> > network
> >
> > >
> >
> > > connection with the disklavier is broken, but the piano continues to play the list of
> >
> > songs
> >
> > >
> >
> > > or songs in an album or single song. We can then switch back as we wish to control
> the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > piano as long as we disable the get mail mode. This just requires that we close the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > current DKV Browser window using the red button to quit and selecting "no" to put
> piano
> >
> > >
> >
> > > in standby and relaunch the DKV Browser program again for control or selection of
> >
> > more
> >
> > >
> >
> > > songs.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > It works fine for us and we can use any of 3 or 4 computers on the network in our
> home
> >
> > to
> >
> > >
> >
> > > control the piano. It has been great! It does what I want, search and play and
control
> >
> > >
> >
> > > volume and extra nice to actually put in and out of standby from another part of the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > house.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > The other features for editing and such would be nice, but love what you have so
far
> and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > addresses what my foremost wish which was for searching and cataloging
capability.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I will be glad to test any new versions as they come around.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I have not gotten the "Clear" button to actually work or the "Find" button at the
> bottom
> >
> > of
> >
> > >
> >
> > > the screen. I assumed the "Clear" button was to clear the text in search text box,
but
> it
> >
> > >
> >
> > > appears to not do anything. I assume the "Find" button was to find the current song
> >
> > >
> >
> > > playing and this function does not seem to work as well.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I saw that when under the "pianosoft" or "user tabs" that a comment edit field did
> >
> > appear
> >
> > >
> >
> > > when I double clicked in those areas of screen (column 2). But I did not try to type
> >
> > >
> >
> > > anything in to those text fields yet. When I went to the third column (for rating I
> >
> > believe)
> >
> > >
> >
> > > the rating pop-down menu with stars appeared on the screen and I was able to
select
> a
> >
> > >
> >
> > > star, but a strange thing happened and this pop-down menu field then appeared in
> the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > second column and even when I scrolled down to refresh the screen it remained. So
I
> >
> > >
> >
> > > believe I left that tab and came back, not sure if it disappeared at that point or not.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Figuring that these features not working fully, I opted not to write to my hard drive
> yet.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > The F1 and F2 keys on my laptop are assigned to screen brightness currently and
have
> >
> > not
> >
> > >
> >
> > > tested on my Mac Pro to see if I can edit titles. I did attempt to move or copy a file
in
> >
> > my
> >
> > >
> >
> > > user library and it came up with a menu option with two choices: make an album
and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > delete a file. I choose make an album and I created to blank albums in my user
> library.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > No files were moved or copied as far as I could tell and opted to stop at this point.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I will play with some more and get more details of the steps to better document
what
> >
> > >
> >
> > > occurs.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Joan
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > --- In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@ .> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Joan,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > I'm glad you are having fun with DKVBrowser. I primarily wrote it because of the
> lack
> >
> > of
> >
> > >
> >
> > > a search feature, and it grew from there. The volume control, and lots of other
things
> >
> > >
> >
> > > came from user requests...so keep 'em coming!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > The two starts issue is most likely a weak network signal. I have that problem
> >
> > >
> >
> > > occasionally as well. Someone on the list said there is a way to boost the signal that
> >
> > >
> >
> > > comes from the piano, but I haven't heard anything more on that topic. It's worse
> when
> >
> > >
> >
> > > DKVBrowser looses the signal while it is working (I haven't written the code to
detect
> >
> > that
> >
> > >
> >
> > > yet).
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > There are lots of great uses for the comments section, I think. I like to put the
> >
> > original
> >
> > >
> >
> > > artist in there...so, that way I can search for say "Billy Joel" and find all of his songs
> that I
> >
> > >
> >
> > > have stored. It was always there, but there was no way to search, so they were
pretty
> >
> > >
> >
> > > useless...forget about how hard it is to enter them from the PDA!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > You question about it being available on the Mac deserves special attention.
There
> is
> >
> > no
> >
> > >
> >
> > > such thing as a Mac version, per se. Since it's written in java, there is only one
> version.
> >
> > All
> >
> > >
> >
> > > features are available everywhere (including Linux, but I don't think anyone is using
it
> >
> > on
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Linux yet). There are a few points though along these lines.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > 1) I've been told that the menu "Exit" doesn't ask the question about putting the
> piano
> >
> > >
> >
> > > in standby on the Mac. Since I don't have a Mac, I can't do much about this. I also
> >
> > >
> >
> > > understand that the menu system is different on the Mac, so that is probably the
> cause.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > It's very likely that I could do something different in the code to support this, but I
> >
> > haven't
> >
> > >
> >
> > > stumbled across anything (nor have I searched!).
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > 2) Nancy has been packaging a special Mac version that makes it much easier to
get
> >
> > up
> >
> > >
> >
> > > and running the first time. There were times when that packaged version was a
> release
> >
> > or
> >
> > >
> >
> > > so behind the latest. However, once I stop adding external libraries (it doesn't
happen
> >
> > >
> >
> > > often), you will always be able to take the latest primary release, and replace a
single
> >
> > file
> >
> > >
> >
> > > in your working installation from it and you will be current.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Enjoy!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > -Kevin
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > From: jheitzeb1 <jheitzeb1@ ..>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 11:22:53 PM
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Mark IV Disklavier DKVBrowser with Macintosh works ...
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Nancy
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
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> >
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> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Kevin,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Thanks for all the time and effort in developing this software for the Mark IV and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Macintosh. I know that we will truly enjoy controlling the piano and volume from
> our
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > laptop and office computers.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > It is still taking us two starts of application to get connection to work and also
have
> to
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > force quit from the Mac doc, but otherwise working well. My husband is using it
> now
> >
> > >
> >
> > > and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > is in seventh heaven now that he can find a song so easily. I originally set up all
the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > midis
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > on albums on the Mark IV and he had no idea where the files were located and
now
> he
> >
> > >
> >
> > > can
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > find them with your great search routine. Thanks .... Thanks ... Thanks .....
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
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> > > > --- In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@ .> wrote:
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> > > > > During this coding effort I discovered a bug that I wanted to bring to
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> > > > > The default operation on a drag is a "MOVE" instead of a "COPY". Normally this
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> > > > painosoft (protected! from copying) song to my From/To PC folder. Of course,
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> > > > > Unfortunately, this isn't an easy thing to solve, so one of the solutions on my
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> > > > > ----- Original Message ----
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> > > > > From: jheitzeb1 <jheitzeb1@ ..>
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> > > > > To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
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> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:35:36 PM
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> > > > > Subject: [disklavier] Mark IV Disklavier DKVBrowser with Macintosh works ...
> Thanks
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> DKV
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> > > > > After connecting to the DKV #### network under the Airport Icon in the right
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> > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?
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> >
> > > #ygrp-vital{
> >
> > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px;}
> >
> > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{
> >
> > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text-
> >
> > transform:uppercase ;}
> >
> > > #ygrp-vital ul{
> >
> > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;}
> >
> > > #ygrp-vital ul li{
> >
> > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee;
> >
> > > }
> >
> > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{
> >
> > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- align:right; padding-
> >
> > right:.5em;}
> >
> > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{
> >
> > > font-weight: bold;}
> >
> > > #ygrp-vital a{
> >
> > > text-decoration: none;}
> >
> > >
> >
> > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{
> >
> > > text-decoration: underline; }
> >
> > >
> >
> > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{
> >
> > > color:#999;font- size:77%; }
> >
> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{
> >
> > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;}
> >
> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{
> >
> > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; }
> >
> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{
> >
> > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;}
> >
> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{
> >
> > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;}
> >
> > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc{
> >
> > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;}
> >
> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{
> >
> > > padding:8px 0;}
> >
> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{
> >
> > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size: 100%;line-
> height:122% ;}
> >
> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
> >
> > > text-decoration: none;}
> >
> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{
> >
> > > text-decoration: underline; }
> >
> > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{
> >
> > > margin:0;}
> >
> > > o{font-size: 0;}
> >
> > > .MsoNormal{
> >
> > > margin:0 0 0 0;}
> >
> > > #ygrp-text tt{
> >
> > > font-size:120% ;}
> >
> > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}
> >
> > > .replbq{margin: 4;}
> >
> > > -->
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> >
> > > Be a better friend, newshound, and
> >
> > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
> >
> > http://mobile. yahoo.com/ ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <!--
> >
> > #ygrp-mkp{
> > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font- family:Arial; margin:14px 0px;padding: 0px 14px;}
> > #ygrp-mkp hr{
> > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}
> > #ygrp-mkp #hd{
> > color:#628c2a; font-size: 85%;font- weight:bold; line-height: 122%;margin: 10px
0px;}
> > #ygrp-mkp #ads{
> > margin-bottom: 10px;}
> > #ygrp-mkp .ad{
> > padding:0 0;}
> > #ygrp-mkp .ad a{
> > color:#0000ff; text-decoration: none;}
> > -->
> >
> >
> >
> > <!--
> >
> > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{
> > font-family: Arial;}
> > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{
> > margin:10px 0px;font-weight: bold;font- size:78%; line-height: 122%;}
> > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{
> > margin-bottom: 10px;padding: 0 0;}
> > -->
> >
> >
> >
> > <!--
> >
> > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}
> > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;}
> > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}
> > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}
> > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;}
> > #ygrp-text{
> > font-family: Georgia;
> > }
> > #ygrp-text p{
> > margin:0 0 1em 0;}
> > #ygrp-tpmsgs{
> > font-family: Arial;
> > clear:both;}
> > #ygrp-vitnav{
> > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;}
> > #ygrp-vitnav a{
> > padding:0 1px;}
> > #ygrp-actbar{
> > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- align:right; }
> > #ygrp-actbar .left{
> > float:left;white- space:nowrap; }
> > .bld{font-weight: bold;}
> > #ygrp-grft{
> > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;}
> > #ygrp-ft{
> > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666;
> > padding:5px 0;
> > }
> > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{
> > padding-bottom: 10px;}
> >
> > #ygrp-vital{
> > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px;}
> > #ygrp-vital #vithd{
> > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text-
> transform:uppercase ;}
> > #ygrp-vital ul{
> > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;}
> > #ygrp-vital ul li{
> > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee;
> > }
> > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{
> > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- align:right; padding-
> right:.5em;}
> > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{
> > font-weight: bold;}
> > #ygrp-vital a{
> > text-decoration: none;}
> >
> > #ygrp-vital a:hover{
> > text-decoration: underline; }
> >
> > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{
> > color:#999;font- size:77%; }
> > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{
> > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;}
> > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{
> > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; }
> > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{
> > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;}
> > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{
> > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;}
> > #ygrp-sponsor #nc{
> > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;}
> > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{
> > padding:8px 0;}
> > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{
> > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size: 100%;line-
height:122% ;}Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
> > text-decoration: none;}
> > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{
> > text-decoration: underline; }
> > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{
> > margin:0;}
> > o{font-size: 0;}
> > .MsoNormal{
> > margin:0 0 0 0;}
> > #ygrp-text tt{
> > font-size:120% ;}
> > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}
> > .replbq{margin: 4;}
> > -->
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > Looking for last minute shopping deals?
> > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
> http://tools. search.yahoo. com/newsearch/ category. php?category= shopping
> >
>