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Re: Mark IV Disklavier DKVBrowser with Macintosh works ... Thanks Nancy

2008-01-02 by jheitzeb1

Albert,

I think this link will get you there.

http://dkvbrowser.sourceforge.net/

Joan

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Albert Edwards <acejazz@...> wrote:
>
> Can I get a DKV Browser for my PC which is hoooked to my Mark IV?
> Al Edwards
> Hawthorne, CA
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: jheitzeb1 <jheitzeb1@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:55:14 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: Mark IV Disklavier DKVBrowser with Macintosh works ... Thanks 
Nancy
> 
> Kevin,
> 
> I did not try using the EXIT function from the menu. But I did try quiting from the menu. 
> If you use the red button on the Mac DKVBrowser application window to quit the 
program, 
> the message or option to put the piano in standby mode is given. If you use, this means 
> to quit DKVBrowser then there is barely a problem with having to reconnect twice and 
> seems to run flawlessly.
> 
> If you use the "Quit" from menubar, you will find that the program does not really quit 
and 
> you end up having to "force quit" from the application icon that is in the Macintosh 
dock. 
> 
> I have also found out that if you (Step 1) either put your mail program into a "manual 
> mode to get mail" or put it in "offline mode" and also leave your internet browser 
> application open and (Step 2) then use the airport icon along the right side of the Mac 
> menubar to choose between your home network (which runs your internet and mail 
> servicees) and the disklavier network (usually DKV ##### where ##### or numbers) that 
> the DKV Browser application seems to run just fine. In other words, it is not necessary to 
> quit the Mail app or Internet Browser applications when using airport extreme network. 
> 
> We are able to have our piano in standby mode, switch to the DKV ##### network after 
> adjusting our mail app and then search or select a piano song, playlist and play that 
song, 
> then immediately switch back to our internet or mail. Of course at this point the 
network 
> connection with the disklavier is broken, but the piano continues to play the list of 
songs 
> or songs in an album or single song. We can then switch back as we wish to control the 
> piano as long as we disable the get mail mode. This just requires that we close the 
> current DKV Browser window using the red button to quit and selecting "no" to put piano 
> in standby and relaunch the DKV Browser program again for control or selection of more 
> songs.
> 
> It works fine for us and we can use any of 3 or 4 computers on the network in our home 
to 
> control the piano. It has been great! It does what I want, search and play and control 
> volume and extra nice to actually put in and out of standby from another part of the 
> house.
> 
> The other features for editing and such would be nice, but love what you have so far and 
> addresses what my foremost wish which was for searching and cataloging capability.
> 
> I will be glad to test any new versions as they come around. 
> 
> I have not gotten the "Clear" button to actually work or the "Find" button at the bottom 
of 
> the screen. I assumed the "Clear" button was to clear the text in search text box, but it 
> appears to not do anything. I assume the "Find" button was to find the current song 
> playing and this function does not seem to work as well. 
> 
> I saw that when under the "pianosoft" or "user tabs" that a comment edit field did 
appear 
> when I double clicked in those areas of screen (column 2). But I did not try to type 
> anything in to those text fields yet. When I went to the third column (for rating I believe) 
> the rating pop-down menu with stars appeared on the screen and I was able to select a 
> star, but a strange thing happened and this pop-down menu field then appeared in the 
> second column and even when I scrolled down to refresh the screen it remained. So I 
> believe I left that tab and came back, not sure if it disappeared at that point or not. 
> Figuring that these features not working fully, I opted not to write to my hard drive yet. 
> 
> The F1 and F2 keys on my laptop are assigned to screen brightness currently and have 
not 
> tested on my Mac Pro to see if I can edit titles. I did attempt to move or copy a file in 
my 
> user library and it came up with a menu option with two choices: make an album and 
> delete a file. I choose make an album and I created to blank albums in my user library. 
> No files were moved or copied as far as I could tell and opted to stop at this point.
> 
> I will play with some more and get more details of the steps to better document what 
> occurs. 
> 
> Joan
> 
> --- In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Joan,
> > 
> > I'm glad you are having fun with DKVBrowser. I primarily wrote it because of the lack 
of 
> a search feature, and it grew from there. The volume control, and lots of other things 
> came from user requests...so keep 'em coming!
> > 
> > The two starts issue is most likely a weak network signal. I have that problem 
> occasionally as well. Someone on the list said there is a way to boost the signal that 
> comes from the piano, but I haven't heard anything more on that topic. It's worse when 
> DKVBrowser looses the signal while it is working (I haven't written the code to detect 
that 
> yet).
> > 
> > There are lots of great uses for the comments section, I think. I like to put the original 
> artist in there...so, that way I can search for say "Billy Joel" and find all of his songs that I 
> have stored. It was always there, but there was no way to search, so they were pretty 
> useless...forget about how hard it is to enter them from the PDA!
> > 
> > You question about it being available on the Mac deserves special attention. There is 
no 
> such thing as a Mac version, per se. Since it's written in java, there is only one version. 
All 
> features are available everywhere (including Linux, but I don't think anyone is using it 
on 
> Linux yet). There are a few points though along these lines.
> > 
> > 1) I've been told that the menu "Exit" doesn't ask the question about putting the piano 
> in standby on the Mac. Since I don't have a Mac, I can't do much about this. I also 
> understand that the menu system is different on the Mac, so that is probably the cause. 
> It's very likely that I could do something different in the code to support this, but I 
haven't 
> stumbled across anything (nor have I searched!).
> > 
> > 2) Nancy has been packaging a special Mac version that makes it much easier to get 
up 
> and running the first time. There were times when that packaged version was a release 
or 
> so behind the latest. However, once I stop adding external libraries (it doesn't happen 
> often), you will always be able to take the latest primary release, and replace a single 
file 
> in your working installation from it and you will be current.
> > 
> > Enjoy!
> > -Kevin
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: jheitzeb1 <jheitzeb1@ ..>
> > To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 11:22:53 PM
> > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Mark IV Disklavier DKVBrowser with Macintosh works ... 
Thanks 
> Nancy
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> > Kevin, 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for all the time and effort in developing this software for the Mark IV and 
> > 
> > Macintosh. I know that we will truly enjoy controlling the piano and volume from our 
> > 
> > laptop and office computers. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It is still taking us two starts of application to get connection to work and also have to 
> > 
> > force quit from the Mac doc, but otherwise working well. My husband is using it now 
> and 
> > 
> > is in seventh heaven now that he can find a song so easily. I originally set up all the 
> midis 
> > 
> > on albums on the Mark IV and he had no idea where the files were located and now he 
> can 
> > 
> > find them with your great search routine. Thanks .... Thanks ... Thanks ..... 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I have not tried editing song names or making playlists, is this available on the Mac 
> > 
> > version?
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> > 
> > Joan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@ .> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > This is great news! Thanks for the update.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > I'm currently working on supporting cut/copy/paste of songs, and entire albums 
> > 
> > (including playlist support). This is mostly because drag and drop is somewhat painful 
> to 
> > 
> > do a song at a time, especially if the destination is far away from the source.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > During this coding effort I discovered a bug that I wanted to bring to everyone's 
> > 
> > attention, because it could actually be harmful.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > The default operation on a drag is a "MOVE" instead of a "COPY". Normally this is 
fine, 
> > 
> > but since the piano software itself doesn't have a concept of "MOVE", I am simulating 
it 
> by 
> > 
> > doing a copy followed by a delete. Again, normally this is fine...unless the copy 
> operation 
> > 
> > actually fails...in which case, it still goes ahead and DELETES the source. This is really 
> bad, 
> > 
> > since I noticed that the only way I've been able to make it happen is when I tried to 
> move a 
> > 
> > painosoft (protected! from copying) song to my From/To PC folder. Of course, the 
> > 
> > operation failed (the song was protected), but then DKVBrowser went ahead and 
deleted 
> > 
> > the file! This is exactly what you wouldn't want to happen...
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > Unfortunately, this isn't an easy thing to solve, so one of the solutions on my list is 
to 
> > 
> > remove the concept of "moving" anything...and allow the user to manually delete to 
> source 
> > 
> > if the copy is successful.. . 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > Anyway, please be careful until this is solved. As I've always said, "Use at your own 
> > 
> > risk." but I certainly want it to be completely safe.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > -Kevin
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > 
> > > From: jheitzeb1 <jheitzeb1@ ..>
> > 
> > > To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> > 
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:35:36 PM
> > 
> > > Subject: [disklavier] Mark IV Disklavier DKVBrowser with Macintosh works ... Thanks 
> > 
> > Nancy
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> > > Just to let everyone know that I got my Mac Pro running Leopard to run DKV 
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> > > After connecting to the DKV #### network under the Airport Icon in the right hand 
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> > > menu bar, I ran DKV Browser (Mac Version). (First, I quit Mail and Internet Browser, 
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> > > why this is key, but solved my problem with error in getting connected to the 
> Disklavier 
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> > > I now have an exported list of all the midis and professional albums on my Mark IV. 
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> > > husband is in seventh heaven as he is now able to search for a song and play it 
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> > > office. He can also control the volume and nice touch.
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> > > Thanks to Nancy and Kevin for providing this great software for the users on the 
> forum.
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Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.