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Re: How loud is the player mechanism?

2008-03-03 by uhhmmmmmmmmmm

Maybe I should have this done.  I have a key or two that seem to be a 
little louder than all the others.  My local disklavier tech wasn't 
familiar with the procedure but would charge $130 an hour to have 
this done.  Can you tell me how many hours it would take to do?  I 
don't know if I want to spend $1000 to have this done. ;)

Thanks,

--Ron

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "sjhart110110" <sjhart110@...> 
wrote:
>
> OK.  The tech came out and did a procedure which was recommended by 
> Yamaha for these types of problems.  He said that they "used" to 
> swap solenoids and/or magnets, etc. to try and fix the problem, but 
> that this new procedure always worked.  Now I will try and explain 
> what the tech did!  Groups of solenoids and magnets (the magnet is 
> the device that moves up to strike the hammers) have a brass cover 
> over them.  I think there were about 6 of these long brass covers.  
> Each one had several (10-15) white or black solenoid (magnets) in 
> them.  He had to remove each of these covers and line the inside 
> with a very small strip of black tape.  The tape was VERY small 
> (1/16" or 1/32" wide).  The tape was run from one end of the brass 
> cover to the other and was positioned right next to the hole were 
> the magnet is put into.  The noise is caused by the magnet and/or 
> solenoid hitting these brass covers.  Likely from the inside, 
> because the magnet has felt on it which would seem to protect it 
> from hitting the outside/top of the cover.   The results were VERY 
> impressive.  The entire mechanism (not just my problem keys) it 
MUCH 
> quieter.  Amazing!  Thanks.  SJ  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Jimmy <JimmyM@V...> wrote:
> > Sj:  Make sure you ask the tech to replaced the plunger (piston, 
> shaft)  whatever name they gave it into the solenoid instead of 
just 
> moving them around to stop the noise, because I believe he will be 
> back if he only rotates them around.
> > As far as why certain notes are doing it, it's a mystery to my 
> tech.  He ask Yamaha, but no answer came regarding the reason.  
> Certainly not on a new piano.
> > 
> > f you be kind enough to let me know how everything turns out and 
> what your tech has to say about the problem, may be I'll be able to 
> pass that around to mine.
> > 
> > Take care and enjoy.
> > 
> > Jimmy
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: sjhart110110 
> >   To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
> >   Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 4:17 PM
> >   Subject: [disklavier] Re: How loud is the player mechanism?
> > 
> > 
> >   Thanks Jimmy for the info.  The tech is coming over this week 
to 
> >   take a look.  I hooked my PC up to the piano to drive the 
> mechanism 
> >   so I could isolate the notes that are making the "clicking" 
> noise.  
> >   There is a only a couple which are really loud and a few which 
> are 
> >   less.  However, these 8 notes are significantly louder than the 
> >   other 80!  Also, the loudest one is the F below middle C which 
> is 
> >   played a lot!  SJ
> > 
> >   --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Jimmy <JimmyM@V...> wrote:
> >   > To answer all under my small wisdom.  I just had a Disklavier 
> >   technician over.  It is the second time that he come over for 
> what 
> >   you haverefer as the "clicking" or claping" noise that you hear 
> when 
> >   the key is played by the mechanism.  The first time, since my 
> >   disklavier was new (DCG1) he did a major over all to the 
> keyboard 
> >   assembly.  Kind of lubrication of the wooden attachment, (sorry 
> for 
> >   my incorrect terms) they he realized that over all the noise 
was 
> >   still produce on some notes.  He went back inside and 
> interchanged 
> >   the pistons shaft from the the solenoid to other note.
> >   > That did rectified the problems for a few months, then the 
> noise 
> >   came back on some note, just a few, but still very annoying. So 
> >   today he came back and changed all together the piston or shaft 
> from 
> >   the noisy solenoid.  Simply job and it appears to be efficency 
> this 
> >   time hope it will last longer than a few months.
> >   > 
> >   > By the way this piano was bought last in november 2002, so 
> >   naturaly still under warranty.
> >   > 
> >   > Hope my small insight will help some of you.  Don't tolerate 
> that 
> >   irrating noise, call your technician and get it fixed.  It is 
> worth 
> >   it.  Sound so smooth now.
> >   > 
> >   > Enjoy the music.
> >   > 
> >   > Jimmy
> >   > Montreal Canada
> >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   >   From: sjhart110110 
> >   >   To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
> >   >   Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:50 PM
> >   >   Subject: [disklavier] Re: How loud is the player mechanism?
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   >   Thanks for the info.  I think I'll do that.  I noticed that 
> it 
> >   is 
> >   >   mostly a couple of keys that make about 10 times the 
noise.  
> SJ
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   >   --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" 
> <crbrpt@b...> 
> >   >   wrote:
> >   >   > Better have the DKV tech out.  Could be the height of the 
> rail 
> >   >   needs
> >   >   > adjusting.
> >   >   > 
> >   >   > Carol Beigel
> >   >   > 
> >   >   > ----- Original Message -----
> >   >   > From: "sjhart110110" <sjmu@m...>
> >   >   > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> >   >   > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:16 PM
> >   >   > Subject: [disklavier] How loud is the player mechanism?
> >   >   > 
> >   >   > 
> >   >   > > I have a new DC3A.  Just wondered what others are 
> hearing 
> >   from 
> >   >   their
> >   >   > > player mechanism.  Certainly not quiet.  Mine makes a 
> bunch 
> >   of
> >   >   > > clicking sounds.  Is this the solenoids working?  Just 
> barely
> >   >   > > noticable.  SJ
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