Yahoo Groups archive

Disklavier

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 23:20 UTC

Message

Re: Threaded Discussions? (was: RE: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?)

2008-06-27 by James Fry

No. No. No.

We've had this over and over again. My biggest complaint is that web  
forums do NOT give proper threading at all so they are far worse than  
email lists / newsgroups.

A good email client will give you complete threading control over the  
emails, with proper tree structures so you can see which sub-threads  
you want to completely ignore and which ones are interesting. It also  
preserves the thread order because of the tree - something that I've  
yet to see in any of the decent / popular forum tools.

The only thing that a forum tools gives is multiple sub-forums that  
can be individually read - eg MkIV vs MkIII - but that then makes it  
harder to read the whole forum (something I like to do - I enjoy  
reading MkIV comments even though I have a MkIIXG). It also relies on  
someone to correctly choose a top level structure for the forum topics  
- something that rarely happens (everyone disagrees) and as a result  
stuff gets cross posted, linked, or just posted in completely the  
wrong forum.

Please keep it on email. For one thing I can read email lists from  
anywhere, but I can't easily use forums from work - and again, I know  
I'm not the only one with that constraint.

Regards

James



On 27 Jun 2008, at 08:19, Josh Goldman wrote:

> I'm new to the group (brand new DC2M4) so I may be way out of line  
> suggesting this, but I'll dive in anyway...
> Maybe it's time to think about this group moving to a real forum  
> system rather than the antiquated Yahoo Groups system.
>
> A real threaded discussion board would let those who wanted to read  
> a topic read it, reply to their heart's content, and let others who  
> don't wish to participate skip to another thread.
>
> I can see both sides in this little dispute... and think the  
> technology here is partly to blame.  The fact that Yahoo Groups  
> sends everything to everybody (yes, I'm aware you don't have to take  
> the emails) is a big issue.
>
> --josh
>
>
>
>
> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com]  
> On Behalf Of Mark
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:49 PM
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>
> Kevin,
>
> Would you really think a knocked down computer cabinet would look good
> next to the high quality furniture and finish of a Yamaha piano. Do  
> you
> have a do it yourself brain kit too.
>
> Take it private.
>
> Kevin Goroway wrote:
> > Thinking about this instead of a file cabinet:
> >
> > http://www.homedecorators.com/detail.php?parentid=5117010&aid=froogle&CAWELAID=130285947
> >
> > It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it in
> > white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against the  
> wife...
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...>
> > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
> >
> > A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...
> >
> > Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group
> > what YOUR email filters are set up for? This way the rest of us can
> > be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects. I'm sure
> > that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about  
> YOUR
> > email filters. Does it support wildcards? You might look into
> > that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters
> > in, oh, about...now.
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
> > To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <http://ups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
> >
> > Kevin,
> >
> > Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete  
> button,
> > how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can
> > filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV
> > MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there  
> have
> > been 15 post to that thread.
> > I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a  
> giant
> > 30 inch flat panel like was suggested.
> >
> > My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the  
> screen
> > and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.
> >
> > Mark in Idaho
> >
> > Kevin Goroway wrote:
> > > I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I  
> posted it
> > > here in the first place.
> > >
> > > The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own
> > > disklaviers. I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of  
> people
> > > to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to  
> add a
> > > computer to their piano. I don't think posting this question on,  
> say,
> > > the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos
> > > can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...
> > >
> > > There's also the possibility that someone else on this group,  
> now, or
> > > in the future might be interested in the same question.
> > >
> > > Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly  
> from
> > > the yahoo groups page):
> > >
> > >
> > > "Description
> > >
> > > For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical  
> musical
> > > performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."
> > >
> > > Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this  
> group?
> > > Me neither. So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?
> > >
> > > Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply  
> privately, how
> > > can you figure out how to
> > > operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond  
> to
> > > the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't
> > > interest you...
> > >
> > > -Kevin
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net <mailto:MarkGMID 
> %40cableone.net>>
> > > To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com 
> >
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
> > >
> > > Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant  
> to the
> > > rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room  
> and all
> > > the problems it presents.
> > >
> > > Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail  
> address.
> > > If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure  
> out how to
> > > operate or play a Disklavier?
> > >
> > > Enough already!!!
> > >
> > > Spencer_Lists wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Greetings Kevin,
> > > >
> > > > Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the  
> piano
> > > > and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever  
> makes
> > > > sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the  
> room or
> > > > closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not  
> actually
> > > > using it.
> > > >
> > > > Spencer
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.