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Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-26 by Kevin Goroway

I thought this group might be the right place to ask this question.

We've got our DC3M4 in a dedicated room (which also serves as my wife's "doll room", as she is an avid doll collector) and it looks very elegant (and sounds amazing, but that's besides the point).  Now, however, I'm faced with the reality that I really want a full fledged computer in that room as well (it arrives on Monday).  The problem is finding furniture that is both functional and not too unattractive.  I'm trying hard not to turn it into something that looks like a studio, or an office.

I was thinking of a nice black file cabinet with the monitor and keyboard on top.  I could place this on a slight angle next to the piano.  This would also give some storage for sheet music.  Not so sure how well this will look though.

Thoughts?  Experience?  Anyone have the same dilemma?

Thanks in advance.
-Kevin

RE: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-26 by Glenn Smutny

Kevin,

 

As an architect/builder, owner of a DC3M4 and a self proclaimed neat nick, I
would not want to see the CPU. Remote it or bury it somewhere and then use a
wireless keyboard and mouse.  The monitor of course is a flat screen -
minimum 20"+.  30" might get a bit overpowering in the room. With the PC out
of the way, wire the monitor so no cables show. Run it through the wall into
a low volt box right next to the duplex outlet that is going to support the
monitor.  

 

You didn't mention the size of the room, but the file cabinet is a good idea
however kind of uncomfortable to sit at. How about a small antique desk with
an appropriate wooden chair? You could make it just big enough for a nice
lamp on one side and the monitor on the other. The Keyboard goes in the draw
when not in use or is left out because it looks ok without any wire snaking
all over. The problem with this concept - and I have tried it myself, is
that small desks are not meant for marathon WWW excursions. To check you
email and be off in 10 minutes fine, but 2 hours at a desk like that will
not be a pleasurable experience.  And then you get into what about the
printer, webcam, camera dock, slide copier, external drives - 2 or 3, ipod
dock etc. etc. etc. On second thought, I would just forget the whole the
whole idea and build a new house. ;-) Give me a call. 

 

Best wishes.     

 

One other thought, how about built-in cabinetry that you could make look
furniture like to bury all that stuff that you need but don't want to see in
a "show" room? Although, that could cost you $10K to $20K by the time your
done - if properly tricked out!  

  _____  
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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Goroway
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:35 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

 

I thought this group might be the right place to ask this question.

We've got our DC3M4 in a dedicated room (which also serves as my wife's
"doll room", as she is an avid doll collector) and it looks very elegant
(and sounds amazing, but that's besides the point).  Now, however, I'm faced
with the reality that I really want a full fledged computer in that room as
well (it arrives on Monday).  The problem is finding furniture that is both
functional and not too unattractive.  I'm trying hard not to turn it into
something that looks like a studio, or an office.

I was thinking of a nice black file cabinet with the monitor and keyboard on
top.  I could place this on a slight angle next to the piano.  This would
also give some storage for sheet music.  Not so sure how well this will look
though.

Thoughts?  Experience?  Anyone have the same dilemma?

Thanks in advance.
-Kevin

Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-26 by Kevin Goroway

Glenn,

Thanks for your insight!

Because of the shape of the room, the placement of the piano, and the only entrance into the room, the cpu will be well hidden behind whatever furniture I use...no issue there. Agreed on wireless keyboard/mouse. (Actually, the mouse brings up another though I had...maybe I should go with a trackball instead of a mouse, or a keyboard that has a touchpad.)

As far as the comfort of sitting at a file cabinet, I'm not concerned. The only use for this computer will be with the piano. And the only "chair" will be the piano bench. Ergonomics of seeing the screen, reaching the keyboard, and using whatever pointing device is there are important though.

I'll see if I can put a photo of the room somewhere. Someone with your skills/experience might be able to make a great suggestion after seeing it.

----- Original Message ----
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From: Glenn Smutny
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:40:54 AM
Subject: RE: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

Kevin,

As an architect/builder, owner of a DC3M4 and a self proclaimed neat nick, I would not want to see the CPU. Remote it or bury it somewhere and then use a wireless keyboard and mouse. The monitor of course is a flat screen – minimum 20”+. 30” might get a bit overpowering in the room. With the PC out of the way, wire the monitor so no cables show. Run it through the wall into a low volt box right next to the duplex outlet that is going to support the monitor.

;

You didn’t mention the size of the room, but the file cabinet is a good idea however kind of uncomfortable to sit at. How about a small antique desk with an appropriate wooden chair? You could make it just big enough for a nice lamp on one side and the monitor on the other. The Keyboard goes in the draw when not in use or is left out because it looks ok without any wire snaking all over. The problem with this concept – and I have tried it myself, is that small desks are not meant for marathon WWW excursions. To check you email and be off in 10 minutes fine, but 2 hours at a desk like that will not be a pleasurable experience. And then you get into what about the printer, webcam, camera dock, slide copier, external drives – 2 or 3, ipod dock etc. etc. etc. On second thought, I would just forget the whole the whole idea and build a new house. ;-) Give me a call.

;

Best wishes.

One other thought, how about built-in cabinetry that you could make look furniture like to bury all that stuff that you need but don’t want to see in a “show” room? Although, that could cost you $10K to $20K by the time your done – if properly tricked out!

From: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:disklavier@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Kevin Goroway
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:35 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

I thought this group might be the right place to ask this question.

We've got our DC3M4 in a dedicated room (which also serves as my wife's "doll room", as she is an avid doll collector) and it looks very elegant (and sounds amazing, but that's besides the point). Now, however, I'm faced with the reality that I really want a full fledged computer in that room as well (it arrives on Monday). The problem is finding furniture that is both functional and not too unattractive. I'm trying hard not to turn it into something that looks like a studio, or an office.

I was thinking of a nice black file cabinet with the monitor and keyboard on top. I could place this on a slight angle next to the piano. This would also give some storage for sheet music. Not so sure how well this will look though.

Thoughts? ; Experience? Anyone have the same dilemma?

Thanks in advance.
-Kevin


Re[2]: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-26 by Spencer_Lists

Greetings Kevin,

Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the piano and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the room or closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually using it.


Spencer

Re: Re[2]: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-26 by Kevin Goroway

I considered a laptop, but discounted it as a possibility because they are more expensive and I don't need the portability.  I really want a dedicated computer (with a large screen) to be able to use software like OMB, and various soft-synths to greatly improve upon the build-in sounds that the Diskalvier has.

Of course...there wouldn't have been any furniture issues with a laptop... <sigh>

I have made the decision to remove the tablet remote from the piano for good.  It takes up space, and isn't good for anything as far as I can tell.  That should reduce the clutter somewhat.  Having a dedicated computer next to the piano can have DKVBrowser running all the time anyway.  Maybe yamaha will release an update for the tablet remote that will make me change my mind, but I don't see that happening.  Maybe I can sell it to someone who really really wants it?

-Kevin
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----- Original Message ----
From: Spencer_Lists <lists@...>
To: Kevin Goroway <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:40:13 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


Greetings Kevin,

Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the piano and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the room or closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually using it.

Spencer

Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-26 by Mark

Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to the 
rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room and all 
the problems it presents.

Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail address. 
If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out how to 
operate or play a Disklavier?

Enough already!!!

Spencer_Lists wrote:
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>
> Greetings Kevin,
>
> Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the piano 
> and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes 
> sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the room or 
> closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually 
> using it.
>
> Spencer
>
>

Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-26 by Kevin Goroway

I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I posted it here in the first place.

The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own disklaviers.  I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of people to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to add a computer to their piano.  I don't think posting this question on, say, the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...

There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now, or in the future might be interested in the same question.

Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly from the yahoo groups page): 

"Description
For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical musical performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."

Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this group?  Me neither.  So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?

Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out how to 
operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond to the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't interest you...

-Kevin



----- Original Message ----
From: Mark <MarkGMID@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to the 
rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room and all 
the problems it presents.

Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail address. 
If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out how to 
operate or play a Disklavier?

Enough already!!!

Spencer_Lists wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Greetings Kevin,
>
> Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the piano 
> and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes 
> sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the room or 
> closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually 
> using it.
>
> Spencer
>
>

Re[2]: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-26 by Spencer_Lists

Greetings Mark,

I could make this private but I won't. I made a simple suggestion regarding an issue that many consider important (aesthetics and ease of operation). I have suffered through many submissions that should have been private as they deal with communication only between two individuals and consider this to be just part of the process. I do not feel that my suggestion was an example of this. I think you are being unfair and actually completely rude offensive, and several other things that I will not say on this list. Read my mind re. the rest.

I believe it was you who submitted a string of letters about a locking plastic cover to keep your kids out of the piano. Is this of interest to every list reader or just those who have out of control kids? 

Everyone has different needs and interests and unless it gets out of control, I think we need to be considerate of the interests of others.

Thursday, June 26, 2008, 10:18:51 AM, you wrote:
> Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to the 
> rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room and all
> the problems it presents.

> Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail address.
> If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out how to
> operate or play a Disklavier?

> Enough already!!!

> Spencer_Lists wrote:

>> Greetings Kevin,

>> Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the piano 
>> and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes 
>> sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the room or 
>> closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually 
>> using it.

>> Spencer



>  

-- 
Best regards,
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Garberville,  CA 95542    Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454    UPS only.
Lists@spencerserolls(dot)com
http://www(dot)spencerserolls.com 
replace (dot) with a .
(707) 984-8356

Re: Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-26 by ipermedia

I'm interested in this topic.
If you decide to continue by mail, please put my address in cc.
I use a PC in another room via network, but with 3.0 version and OMB
I'm interested to put a PC nearby the DKV.
Where to put a PC in an ergonomic way aside a DKV seems not easy.

Roberto Fasciani

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Spencer_Lists <lists@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings Mark,
> 
> I could make this private but I won't. I made a simple suggestion
regarding an issue that many consider important (aesthetics and ease
of operation). I have suffered through many submissions that should
have been private as they deal with communication only between two
individuals and consider this to be just part of the process. I do not
feel that my suggestion was an example of this. I think you are being
unfair and actually completely rude offensive, and several other
things that I will not say on this list. Read my mind re. the rest.
> 
> I believe it was you who submitted a string of letters about a
locking plastic cover to keep your kids out of the piano. Is this of
interest to every list reader or just those who have out of control kids? 
> 
> Everyone has different needs and interests and unless it gets out of
control, I think we need to be considerate of the interests of others.
> 
> Thursday, June 26, 2008, 10:18:51 AM, you wrote:
> > Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to the 
> > rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room
and all
> > the problems it presents.
> 
> > Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail address.
> > If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out
how to
> > operate or play a Disklavier?
> 
> > Enough already!!!
> 
> > Spencer_Lists wrote:
> 
> >> Greetings Kevin,
> 
> >> Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the piano 
> >> and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes 
> >> sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the
room or 
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> >> closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually 
> >> using it.
> 
> >> Spencer
> 
> 
> 
> >  
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Spencer_Lists Chase        mailto:lists@...
> 67550 Bell Springs Rd.
> Garberville,  CA 95542    Postal service only.
> Laytonville, CA 95454    UPS only.
> Lists@spencerserolls(dot)com
> http://www(dot)spencerserolls.com 
> replace (dot) with a .
> (707) 984-8356
>

Re: Re[2]: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-26 by JORGE FERNANDEZ

As usual, this tread is going to change in direction. Anyway, even that the topic is no pure DVK related, the easiest thing to do is read the messages and

Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-26 by Mark

Kevin,

Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete button, 
how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can 
filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV 
MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there have 
been 15 post to that thread.
I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a giant 
30 inch flat panel like was suggested.

My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the screen 
and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.

Mark in Idaho

Kevin Goroway wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I posted it 
> here in the first place.
>
> The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own 
> disklaviers.  I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of people 
> to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to add a 
> computer to their piano.  I don't think posting this question on, say, 
> the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos 
> can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...
>
> There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now, or 
> in the future might be interested in the same question.
>
> Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly from 
> the yahoo groups page):
>
>
>         "Description
>
> For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical musical 
> performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."
>
> Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this group?  
> Me neither.  So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?
>
> Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply privately, how 
> can you figure out how to
> operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond to 
> the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't 
> interest you...
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark <MarkGMID@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>
> Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to the
> rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room and all
> the problems it presents.
>
> Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail address.
> If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out how to
> operate or play a Disklavier?
>
> Enough already!!!
>
> Spencer_Lists wrote:
> >
> > Greetings Kevin,
> >
> > Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the piano
> > and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes
> > sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the room or
> > closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually
> > using it.
> >
> > Spencer
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-26 by Kevin Goroway

A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...

Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group what YOUR email filters are set up for?  This way the rest of us can be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects.  I'm sure that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about YOUR email filters.  Does it support wildcards?  You might look into that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters in, oh, about...now.

-Kevin



----- Original Message ----
From: Mark <MarkGMID@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


Kevin,

Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete button, 
how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can 
filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV 
MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there have 
been 15 post to that thread.
I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a giant 
30 inch flat panel like was suggested.

My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the screen 
and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.

Mark in Idaho

Kevin Goroway wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I posted it 
> here in the first place.
>
> The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own 
> disklaviers.  I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of people 
> to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to add a 
> computer to their piano.  I don't think posting this question on, say, 
> the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos 
> can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...
>
> There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now, or 
> in the future might be interested in the same question.
>
> Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly from 
> the yahoo groups page):
>
>
>         "Description
>
> For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical musical 
> performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."
>
> Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this group? 
> Me neither.  So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?
>
> Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply privately, how 
> can you figure out how to
> operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond to 
> the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't 
> interest you...
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>
> Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to the
> rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room and all
> the problems it presents.
>
> Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail address.
> If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out how to
> operate or play a Disklavier?
>
> Enough already!!!
>
> Spencer_Lists wrote:
> >
> > Greetings Kevin,
> >
> > Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the piano
> > and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes
> > sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the room or
> > closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually
> > using it.
> >
> > Spencer
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-26 by Kevin Goroway

Thinking about this instead of a file cabinet:

http://www.homedecorators.com/detail.php?parentid=5117010&aid=froogle&CAWELAID=130285947

It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it in white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against the wife...



----- Original Message ----
From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...

Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group what YOUR email filters are set up for?  This way the rest of us can be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects.  I'm sure that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about YOUR email filters.  Does it support wildcards?  You might look into that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters in, oh, about...now.

-Kevin



----- Original Message ----
From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


Kevin,

Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete button, 
how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can 
filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV 
MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there have 
been 15 post to that thread.
I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a giant 
30 inch flat panel like was suggested.

My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the screen 
and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.

Mark in Idaho

Kevin Goroway wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I posted it 
> here in the first place.
>
> The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own 
> disklaviers.  I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of people 
> to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to add a 
> computer to their piano.  I don't think posting this question on, say, 
> the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos 
> can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...
>
> There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now, or 
> in the future might be interested in the same question.
>
> Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly from 
> the yahoo groups page):
>
>
>         "Description
>
> For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical musical 
> performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."
>
> Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this group? 
> Me neither.  So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?
>
> Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply privately, how 
> can you figure out how to
> operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond to 
> the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't 
> interest you...
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>
> Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to the
> rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room and all
> the problems it presents.
>
> Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail address.
> If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out how to
> operate or play a Disklavier?
>
> Enough already!!!
>
> Spencer_Lists wrote:
> >
> > Greetings Kevin,
> >
> > Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the piano
> > and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes
> > sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the room or
> > closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually
> > using it.
> >
> > Spencer
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-26 by Kevin Goroway

Wow, yahoo made a mess of that URL.

google for this: "Chesterfield Computer Cabinet" or remove the spaces from the URL.



----- Original Message ----
From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:41:18 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


Thinking about this instead of a file cabinet:

http://www.homedeco rators.com/ detail.php? parentid= 5117010&aid=froogle&CAWELAID=130285947

It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it in white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against the wife...



----- Original Message ----
From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...

Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group what YOUR email filters are set up for?  This way the rest of us can be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects.  I'm sure that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about YOUR email filters.  Does it support wildcards?  You might look into that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters in, oh, about...now.

-Kevin



----- Original Message ----
From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


Kevin,

Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete button, 
how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can 
filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV 
MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there have 
been 15 post to that thread.
I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a giant 
30 inch flat panel like was suggested.

My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the screen 
and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.

Mark in Idaho

Kevin Goroway wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I posted it 
> here in the first place.
>
> The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own 
> disklaviers.  I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of people 
> to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to add a 
> computer to their piano.  I don't think posting this question on, say, 
> the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos 
> can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...
>
> There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now, or 
> in the future might be interested in the same question.
>
> Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly from 
> the yahoo groups page):
>
>
>         "Description
>
> For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical musical 
> performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."
>
> Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this group? 
> Me neither.  So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?
>
> Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply privately, how 
> can you figure out how to
> operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond to 
> the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't 
> interest you...
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>
> Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to the
> rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room and all
> the problems it presents.
>
> Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail address.
> If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out how to
> operate or play a Disklavier?
>
> Enough already!!!
>
> Spencer_Lists wrote:
> >
> > Greetings Kevin,
> >
> > Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the piano
> > and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes
> > sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the room or
> > closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually
> > using it.
> >
> > Spencer
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-27 by Mark

Kevin,

Would you really think a knocked down computer cabinet would look good 
next to the high quality furniture and finish of a Yamaha piano. Do you 
have a do it yourself brain kit too.

Take it private.


Kevin Goroway wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Thinking about this instead of a file cabinet:
>
> http://www.homedecorators.com/detail.php?parentid=5117010&aid=froogle&CAWELAID=130285947
>
> It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it in 
> white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against the wife...
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>
> A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...
>
> Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group 
> what YOUR email filters are set up for?  This way the rest of us can 
> be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects.  I'm sure 
> that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about YOUR 
> email filters.  Does it support wildcards?  You might look into 
> that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters 
> in, oh, about...now.
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <http://ups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>
> Kevin,
>
> Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete button,
> how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can
> filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV
> MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there have
> been 15 post to that thread.
> I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a giant
> 30 inch flat panel like was suggested.
>
> My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the screen
> and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.
>
> Mark in Idaho
>
> Kevin Goroway wrote:
> > I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I posted it
> > here in the first place.
> >
> > The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own
> > disklaviers. I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of people
> > to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to add a
> > computer to their piano. I don't think posting this question on, say,
> > the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos
> > can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...
> >
> > There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now, or
> > in the future might be interested in the same question.
> >
> > Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly from
> > the yahoo groups page):
> >
> >
> > "Description
> >
> > For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical musical
> > performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."
> >
> > Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this group?
> > Me neither. So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?
> >
> > Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply privately, how
> > can you figure out how to
> > operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond to
> > the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't
> > interest you...
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net <mailto:MarkGMID%40cableone.net>>
> > To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
> >
> > Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to the
> > rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room and all
> > the problems it presents.
> >
> > Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail address.
> > If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out how to
> > operate or play a Disklavier?
> >
> > Enough already!!!
> >
> > Spencer_Lists wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings Kevin,
> > >
> > > Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the piano
> > > and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes
> > > sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the room or
> > > closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually
> > > using it.
> > >
> > > Spencer
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Threaded Discussions? (was: RE: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?)

2008-06-27 by Josh Goldman

I'm new to the group (brand new DC2M4) so I may be way out of line
suggesting this, but I'll dive in anyway...

Maybe it's time to think about this group moving to a real forum system
rather than the antiquated Yahoo Groups system.

 

A real threaded discussion board would let those who wanted to read a topic
read it, reply to their heart's content, and let others who don't wish to
participate skip to another thread.

 

I can see both sides in this little dispute... and think the technology here
is partly to blame.  The fact that Yahoo Groups sends everything to
everybody (yes, I'm aware you don't have to take the emails) is a big issue.


 

--josh

 

 

 

 

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:49 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

 

Kevin,

Would you really think a knocked down computer cabinet would look good 
next to the high quality furniture and finish of a Yamaha piano. Do you 
have a do it yourself brain kit too.

Take it private.

Kevin Goroway wrote:
> Thinking about this instead of a file cabinet:
>
> http://www.homedecorators.com/detail.php?parentid=5117010
<http://www.homedecorators.com/detail.php?parentid=5117010&aid=froogle&CAWEL
AID=130285947> &aid=froogle&CAWELAID=130285947
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it in 
> white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against the wife...
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@... <mailto:kgoroway%40yahoo.com> >
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>
> A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...
>
> Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group 
> what YOUR email filters are set up for? This way the rest of us can 
> be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects. I'm sure 
> that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about YOUR 
> email filters. Does it support wildcards? You might look into 
> that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters 
> in, oh, about...now.
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <http://ups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>
> Kevin,
>
> Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete button,
> how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can
> filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV
> MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there have
> been 15 post to that thread.
> I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a giant
> 30 inch flat panel like was suggested.
>
> My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the screen
> and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.
>
> Mark in Idaho
>
> Kevin Goroway wrote:
> > I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I posted it
> > here in the first place.
> >
> > The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own
> > disklaviers. I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of people
> > to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to add a
> > computer to their piano. I don't think posting this question on, say,
> > the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos
> > can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...
> >
> > There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now, or
> > in the future might be interested in the same question.
> >
> > Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly from
> > the yahoo groups page):
> >
> >
> > "Description
> >
> > For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical musical
> > performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."
> >
> > Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this group?
> > Me neither. So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?
> >
> > Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply privately, how
> > can you figure out how to
> > operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond to
> > the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't
> > interest you...
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net <mailto:MarkGMID%40cableone.net>>
> > To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
> >
> > Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to the
> > rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room and all
> > the problems it presents.
> >
> > Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail address.
> > If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out how to
> > operate or play a Disklavier?
> >
> > Enough already!!!
> >
> > Spencer_Lists wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings Kevin,
> > >
> > > Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the piano
> > > and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes
> > > sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the room or
> > > closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually
> > > using it.
> > >
> > > Spencer
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Re: Threaded Discussions? (was: RE: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?)

2008-06-27 by Kevin Goroway

Josh,

This is a good suggestion, and one that has been brought up before.  I'm not sure why it never took hold.  I actually enjoy browsing through the subjects that don't directly impact me.  The recent thread on software for the Mac for example...I don't have a Mac, never plan on having a Mac, but found the discussion interesting.

Messages that are completely off topic (like this one, for example) are easily deleted.  I even don't mind the fact that I don't have the concept of a "kill" file like a usenet reader to ignore specific users who have clearly demonstrated that they think this forum is theirs and that everyone should abide by their rules.  The delete button works there also.

That being said, if we had a real forum, I could choose to read all of the messages while others could read only their private inbox if they so choose.  Having the choice would be nice.

-Kevin



----- Original Message ----
From: Josh Goldman <josh@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:19:28 AM
Subject: Threaded Discussions? (was: RE: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?)


I'm new to the group (brand new DC2M4) so I may be way out of
line suggesting this, but I'll dive in anyway...
Maybe it's time to think about this group moving to a real forum
system rather than the antiquated Yahoo Groups system.
 
A real threaded discussion board would let those who wanted to
read a topic read it, reply to their heart's content, and let others who don't
wish to participate skip to another thread.
 
I can see both sides in this little dispute... and think the
technology here is partly to blame.  The fact that Yahoo Groups sends
everything to everybody (yes, I'm aware you don't have to take the emails) is a
big issue.  
 
--josh
 
 
 
 
From:disklavier@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:disklavier@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:49 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
 
Kevin,

Would you really think a knocked down computer cabinet would look good 
next to the high quality furniture and finish of a Yamaha piano. Do you 
have a do it yourself brain kit too.

Take it private.

Kevin Goroway wrote:
> Thinking about this instead of a file cabinet:
>
> http://www.homedeco rators.com/ detail.php? parentid= 5117010&aid=froogle&CAWELAID=130285947
>
> It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it in 
> white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against the wife...
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>
> A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...
>
> Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group 
> what YOUR email filters are set up for? This way the rest of us can 
> be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects. I'm sure 
> that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about YOUR 
> email filters. Does it support wildcards? You might look into 
> that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters 
> in, oh, about...now.
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <http://ups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>
> Kevin,
>
> Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete button,
> how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can
> filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV
> MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there have
> been 15 post to that thread.
> I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a giant
> 30 inch flat panel like was suggested.
>
> My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the screen
> and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.
>
> Mark in Idaho
>
> Kevin Goroway wrote:
> > I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I posted
it
> > here in the first place.
> >
> > The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own
> > disklaviers. I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of people
> > to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to add a
> > computer to their piano. I don't think posting this question on, say,
> > the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most
pianos
> > can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...
> >
> > There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now, or
> > in the future might be interested in the same question.
> >
> > Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly from
> > the yahoo groups page):
> >
> >
> > "Description
> >
> > For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical musical
> > performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."
> >
> > Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this group?
> > Me neither. So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?
> >
> > Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply
privately, how
> > can you figure out how to
> > operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond
to
> > the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't
> > interest you...
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net <mailto:MarkGMID% 40cableone. net>>
> > To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
> >
> > Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to the
> > rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room and
all
> > the problems it presents.
> >
> > Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail
address.
> > If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out how
to
> > operate or play a Disklavier?
> >
> > Enough already!!!
> >
> > Spencer_Lists wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings Kevin,
> > >
> > > Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the
piano
> > > and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever
makes
> > > sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the
room or
> > > closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not
actually
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > > using it.
> > >
> > > Spencer
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-27 by James Fry

No, do NOT take it private. Please keep the discussion ON the list -  
that's what they are for. It is trivial to mark things as read /  
uninteresting / whatever in most mail clients, and even easier to  
remember which threads annoy you and manually avoid them.

I'm interested by these solutions - elegant or not, and I know I am  
not the only one. Having the discussion archived is useful for new and  
old members alike to search in the archives. Not everyone has oodles  
of money to spend on furniture, and their piano may well be the  
biggest purchase they ever make in their lives, so derogatory comments  
about the quality of furniture people have in their houses are  
completely out of place.

Perhaps you need the do it yourself brain kit before someone does it  
for you?
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On 27 Jun 2008, at 05:49, Mark wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> Would you really think a knocked down computer cabinet would look good
> next to the high quality furniture and finish of a Yamaha piano. Do  
> you
> have a do it yourself brain kit too.
>
> Take it private.
>
>
> Kevin Goroway wrote:
>> Thinking about this instead of a file cabinet:
>>
>> http://www.homedecorators.com/detail.php?parentid=5117010&aid=froogle&CAWELAID=130285947
>>
>> It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it in
>> white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against the  
>> wife...
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...>
>> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>>
>> A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...
>>
>> Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group
>> what YOUR email filters are set up for?  This way the rest of us can
>> be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects.  I'm sure
>> that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about  
>> YOUR
>> email filters.  Does it support wildcards?  You might look into
>> that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters
>> in, oh, about...now.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <http://ups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete button,
>> how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can
>> filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV
>> MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there  
>> have
>> been 15 post to that thread.
>> I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a  
>> giant
>> 30 inch flat panel like was suggested.
>>
>> My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the  
>> screen
>> and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.
>>
>> Mark in Idaho
>>
>> Kevin Goroway wrote:
>>> I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I  
>>> posted it
>>> here in the first place.
>>>
>>> The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own
>>> disklaviers. I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of people
>>> to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to  
>>> add a
>>> computer to their piano. I don't think posting this question on,  
>>> say,
>>> the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos
>>> can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...
>>>
>>> There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now,  
>>> or
>>> in the future might be interested in the same question.
>>>
>>> Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly  
>>> from
>>> the yahoo groups page):
>>>
>>>
>>> "Description
>>>
>>> For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical musical
>>> performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."
>>>
>>> Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this  
>>> group?
>>> Me neither. So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?
>>>
>>> Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply privately,  
>>> how
>>> can you figure out how to
>>> operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond to
>>> the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't
>>> interest you...
>>>
>>> -Kevin
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net <mailto:MarkGMID%40cableone.net>>
>>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier 
>>> %40yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>>>
>>> Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to  
>>> the
>>> rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room  
>>> and all
>>> the problems it presents.
>>>
>>> Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail  
>>> address.
>>> If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out  
>>> how to
>>> operate or play a Disklavier?
>>>
>>> Enough already!!!
>>>
>>> Spencer_Lists wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Kevin,
>>>>
>>>> Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the  
>>>> piano
>>>> and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes
>>>> sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the  
>>>> room or
>>>> closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually
>>>> using it.
>>>>
>>>> Spencer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Threaded Discussions? (was: RE: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?)

2008-06-27 by James Fry

No. No. No.

We've had this over and over again. My biggest complaint is that web  
forums do NOT give proper threading at all so they are far worse than  
email lists / newsgroups.

A good email client will give you complete threading control over the  
emails, with proper tree structures so you can see which sub-threads  
you want to completely ignore and which ones are interesting. It also  
preserves the thread order because of the tree - something that I've  
yet to see in any of the decent / popular forum tools.

The only thing that a forum tools gives is multiple sub-forums that  
can be individually read - eg MkIV vs MkIII - but that then makes it  
harder to read the whole forum (something I like to do - I enjoy  
reading MkIV comments even though I have a MkIIXG). It also relies on  
someone to correctly choose a top level structure for the forum topics  
- something that rarely happens (everyone disagrees) and as a result  
stuff gets cross posted, linked, or just posted in completely the  
wrong forum.

Please keep it on email. For one thing I can read email lists from  
anywhere, but I can't easily use forums from work - and again, I know  
I'm not the only one with that constraint.

Regards

James
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On 27 Jun 2008, at 08:19, Josh Goldman wrote:

> I'm new to the group (brand new DC2M4) so I may be way out of line  
> suggesting this, but I'll dive in anyway...
> Maybe it's time to think about this group moving to a real forum  
> system rather than the antiquated Yahoo Groups system.
>
> A real threaded discussion board would let those who wanted to read  
> a topic read it, reply to their heart's content, and let others who  
> don't wish to participate skip to another thread.
>
> I can see both sides in this little dispute... and think the  
> technology here is partly to blame.  The fact that Yahoo Groups  
> sends everything to everybody (yes, I'm aware you don't have to take  
> the emails) is a big issue.
>
> --josh
>
>
>
>
> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com]  
> On Behalf Of Mark
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:49 PM
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>
> Kevin,
>
> Would you really think a knocked down computer cabinet would look good
> next to the high quality furniture and finish of a Yamaha piano. Do  
> you
> have a do it yourself brain kit too.
>
> Take it private.
>
> Kevin Goroway wrote:
> > Thinking about this instead of a file cabinet:
> >
> > http://www.homedecorators.com/detail.php?parentid=5117010&aid=froogle&CAWELAID=130285947
> >
> > It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it in
> > white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against the  
> wife...
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...>
> > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
> >
> > A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...
> >
> > Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group
> > what YOUR email filters are set up for? This way the rest of us can
> > be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects. I'm sure
> > that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about  
> YOUR
> > email filters. Does it support wildcards? You might look into
> > that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters
> > in, oh, about...now.
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
> > To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <http://ups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
> >
> > Kevin,
> >
> > Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete  
> button,
> > how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can
> > filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV
> > MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there  
> have
> > been 15 post to that thread.
> > I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a  
> giant
> > 30 inch flat panel like was suggested.
> >
> > My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the  
> screen
> > and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.
> >
> > Mark in Idaho
> >
> > Kevin Goroway wrote:
> > > I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I  
> posted it
> > > here in the first place.
> > >
> > > The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own
> > > disklaviers. I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of  
> people
> > > to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to  
> add a
> > > computer to their piano. I don't think posting this question on,  
> say,
> > > the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos
> > > can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...
> > >
> > > There's also the possibility that someone else on this group,  
> now, or
> > > in the future might be interested in the same question.
> > >
> > > Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly  
> from
> > > the yahoo groups page):
> > >
> > >
> > > "Description
> > >
> > > For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical  
> musical
> > > performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."
> > >
> > > Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this  
> group?
> > > Me neither. So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?
> > >
> > > Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply  
> privately, how
> > > can you figure out how to
> > > operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond  
> to
> > > the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't
> > > interest you...
> > >
> > > -Kevin
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net <mailto:MarkGMID 
> %40cableone.net>>
> > > To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com 
> >
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
> > >
> > > Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant  
> to the
> > > rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room  
> and all
> > > the problems it presents.
> > >
> > > Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail  
> address.
> > > If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure  
> out how to
> > > operate or play a Disklavier?
> > >
> > > Enough already!!!
> > >
> > > Spencer_Lists wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Greetings Kevin,
> > > >
> > > > Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the  
> piano
> > > > and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever  
> makes
> > > > sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the  
> room or
> > > > closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not  
> actually
> > > > using it.
> > > >
> > > > Spencer
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Threaded Discussions? (was: RE: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?)

2008-06-27 by Matthew Walworth

Hear, Hear!

...matthew...
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On Jun 27, 2008, at 10:27 AM, James Fry wrote:

> Please keep it on email. For one thing I can read email lists from
> anywhere, but I can't easily use forums from work - and again, I know
> I'm not the only one with that constraint.

Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-27 by Kevin Goroway

Not intending to take it private.  More than one person has already expressed interest in the conversation.

My wife wasn't terribly impressed with the whole idea, but we re-arranged some of her dolls and created the required space for that "computer cabinet" that I linked to.  I ordered it last night.  I'll take pictures and give a review when it arrives.

In the meantime, I'm looking around for flat panel LCDs that has a high gloss black bevel to try to match the piano (even though the tablet and pocket remote don't).  It would be great to find a computer monitor that also supports composite video in (since that's the video connection that the Disklavier wants), short of that, I may put a video card in the computer that supports video "in" so I can display the Diskalvier's video output in a window on the desktop.  I'm planning on removing the tablet AND the pocket remote from permanent placement on top of the piano.  We'll see how it looks soon enough.

-Kevin



----- Original Message ----
From: James Fry <groups@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:21:50 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


No, do NOT take it private. Please keep the discussion ON the list - 
that's what they are for. It is trivial to mark things as read / 
uninteresting / whatever in most mail clients, and even easier to 
remember which threads annoy you and manually avoid them.

I'm interested by these solutions - elegant or not, and I know I am 
not the only one. Having the discussion archived is useful for new and 
old members alike to search in the archives. Not everyone has oodles 
of money to spend on furniture, and their piano may well be the 
biggest purchase they ever make in their lives, so derogatory comments 
about the quality of furniture people have in their houses are 
completely out of place.

Perhaps you need the do it yourself brain kit before someone does it 
for you?
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On 27 Jun 2008, at 05:49, Mark wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> Would you really think a knocked down computer cabinet would look good
> next to the high quality furniture and finish of a Yamaha piano. Do 
> you
> have a do it yourself brain kit too.
>
> Take it private.
>
>
> Kevin Goroway wrote:
>> Thinking about this instead of a file cabinet:
>>
>> http://www.homedeco rators.com/ detail.php? parentid= 5117010&aid= froogle&CAWELAID =130285947
>>
>> It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it in
>> white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against the 
>> wife...
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>>
>> A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...
>>
>> Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group
>> what YOUR email filters are set up for?  This way the rest of us can
>> be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects.  I'm sure
>> that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about 
>> YOUR
>> email filters.  Does it support wildcards?  You might look into
>> that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters
>> in, oh, about...now.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <http://ups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete button,
>> how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can
>> filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV
>> MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there 
>> have
>> been 15 post to that thread.
>> I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a 
>> giant
>> 30 inch flat panel like was suggested.
>>
>> My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the 
>> screen
>> and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.
>>
>> Mark in Idaho
>>
>> Kevin Goroway wrote:
>>> I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I 
>>> posted it
>>> here in the first place.
>>>
>>> The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own
>>> disklaviers. I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of people
>>> to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to 
>>> add a
>>> computer to their piano. I don't think posting this question on, 
>>> say,
>>> the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos
>>> can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...
>>>
>>> There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now, 
>>> or
>>> in the future might be interested in the same question.
>>>
>>> Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly 
>>> from
>>> the yahoo groups page):
>>>
>>>
>>> "Description
>>>
>>> For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical musical
>>> performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."
>>>
>>> Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this 
>>> group?
>>> Me neither. So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?
>>>
>>> Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply privately, 
>>> how
>>> can you figure out how to
>>> operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond to
>>> the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't
>>> interest you...
>>>
>>> -Kevin
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net <mailto:MarkGMID% 40cableone. net>>
>>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier 
>>> %40yahoogroups. com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>>>
>>> Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to 
>>> the
>>> rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room 
>>> and all
>>> the problems it presents.
>>>
>>> Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail 
>>> address.
>>> If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out 
>>> how to
>>> operate or play a Disklavier?
>>>
>>> Enough already!!!
>>>
>>> Spencer_Lists wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Kevin,
>>>>
>>>> Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the 
>>>> piano
>>>> and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes
>>>> sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the 
>>>> room or
>>>> closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually
>>>> using it.
>>>>
>>>> Spencer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re[2]: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-27 by Spencer_Lists

Greetings Kevin,

to find just the right monitor aesthetically speaking you may hove to look at some old stuff or accept something that is not entirely right but is the right color. something that can extend the range of possibilities is a device that converts various video formats to VGA. don't know if they still make them but i have an old thing by viewsonic, i think, that does this. i also have a nice black monitor that goes with it. it is stain black, not glossy. krylon makes spray paint specifically to stick to plastic. you can take the housing apart spray it and put it back if black gloss is really important to you.

Friday, June 27, 2008, 9:48:29 AM, you wrote:
> Not intending to take it private.  More than one person has already
> expressed interest in the conversation.

> My wife wasn't terribly impressed with the whole idea, but we
> re-arranged some of her dolls and created the required space for
> that "computer cabinet" that I linked to.  I ordered it last night. 
> I'll take pictures and give a review when it arrives.

> In the meantime, I'm looking around for flat panel LCDs that has a
> high gloss black bevel to try to match the piano (even though the
> tablet and pocket remote don't).  It would be great to find a
> computer monitor that also supports composite video in (since that's
> the video connection that the Disklavier wants), short of that, I
> may put a video card in the computer that supports video "in" so I
> can display the Diskalvier's video output in a window on the
> desktop.  I'm planning on removing the tablet AND the pocket remote
> from permanent placement on top of the piano.  We'll see how it looks soon enough.

> -Kevin

> ----- Original Message ----
> From: James Fry <groups@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:21:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

> No, do NOT take it private. Please keep the discussion ON the list - 
> that's what they are for. It is trivial to mark things as read / 
> uninteresting / whatever in most mail clients, and even easier to 
> remember which threads annoy you and manually avoid them.

> I'm interested by these solutions - elegant or not, and I know I am 
> not the only one. Having the discussion archived is useful for new and
> old members alike to search in the archives. Not everyone has oodles 
> of money to spend on furniture, and their piano may well be the 
> biggest purchase they ever make in their lives, so derogatory comments
> about the quality of furniture people have in their houses are 
> completely out of place.

> Perhaps you need the do it yourself brain kit before someone does it 
> for you?

> On 27 Jun 2008, at 05:49, Mark wrote:

>> Kevin,

>> Would you really think a knocked down computer cabinet would look good
>> next to the high quality furniture and finish of a Yamaha piano. Do 
>> you
>> have a do it yourself brain kit too.

>> Take it private.


>> Kevin Goroway wrote:
>>> Thinking about this instead of a file cabinet:

>>> http://www.homedeco rators.com/ detail.php? parentid= 5117010&aid= froogle&CAWELAID =130285947

>>> It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it in
>>> white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against the 
>>> wife...

>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
>>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

>>> A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...

>>> Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group
>>> what YOUR email filters are set up for? This way the rest of us can
>>> be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects. I'm sure
>>> that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about 
>>> YOUR
>>> email filters. Does it support wildcards? You might look into
>>> that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters
>>> in, oh, about...now.

>>> -Kevin

>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
>>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <http://ups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

>>> Kevin,

>>> Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete button,
>>> how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can
>>> filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV
>>> MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there 
>>> have
>>> been 15 post to that thread.
>>> I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a 
>>> giant
>>> 30 inch flat panel like was suggested.

>>> My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the 
>>> screen
>>> and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.

>>> Mark in Idaho

>>> Kevin Goroway wrote:
>>>> I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I 
>>>> posted it
>>>> here in the first place.

>>>> The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own
>>>> disklaviers. I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of people
>>>> to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to 
>>>> add a
>>>> computer to their piano. I don't think posting this question on, 
>>>> say,
>>>> the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos
>>>> can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...

>>>> There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now, 
>>>> or
>>>> in the future might be interested in the same question.

>>>> Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly 
>>>> from
>>>> the yahoo groups page):


>>>> "Description

>>>> For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical musical
>>>> performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."

>>>> Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this 
>>>> group?
>>>> Me neither. So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?

>>>> Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply privately, 
>>>> how
>>>> can you figure out how to
>>>> operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond to
>>>> the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't
>>>> interest you...

>>>> -Kevin

>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net <mailto:MarkGMID% 40cableone. net>>
>>>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier 
>>>> %40yahoogroups. com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

>>>> Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to 
>>>> the
>>>> rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room 
>>>> and all
>>>> the problems it presents.

>>>> Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail 
>>>> address.
>>>> If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out 
>>>> how to
>>>> operate or play a Disklavier?

>>>> Enough already!!!

>>>> Spencer_Lists wrote:

>>>>> Greetings Kevin,

>>>>> Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the 
>>>>> piano
>>>>> and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes
>>>>> sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the 
>>>>> room or
>>>>> closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually
>>>>> using it.

>>>>> Spencer











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Re: Re[2]: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-27 by Frank Evans

Hi kevin,
Getting in on this late, but a thought is to not buy a computer monitor, rather an HD TV monitor that has computer inputs, composit video, HDMI, etc...etc....
I have a 32" 720d in the living room which has 2 composit, 2 rgb component, 2 "S"video, as well as HDMI. All selectable with the remote.
Just my $0.02 worth.
BTW.... just to keep it on topic... It's located in the room next to the room with the Yamaha :-)
Kindest regards
Frank Evans
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:59 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

Greetings Kevin,

to find just the right monitor aesthetically speaking you may hove to look at some old stuff or accept something that is not entirely right but is the right color. something that can extend the range of possibilities is a device that converts various video formats to VGA. don't know if they still make them but i have an old thing by viewsonic, i think, that does this. i also have a nice black monitor that goes with it. it is stain black, not glossy. krylon makes spray paint specifically to stick to plastic. you can take the housing apart spray it and put it back if black gloss is really important to you.

Friday, June 27, 2008, 9:48:29 AM, you wrote:
> Not intending to take it private. More than one person has already
> expressed interest in the conversation.

> My wife wasn't terribly impressed with the whole idea, but we
> re-arranged some of her dolls and created the required space for
> that "computer cabinet" that I linked to. I ordered it last night.
> I'll take pictures and give a review when it arrives.

> In the meantime, I'm looking around for flat panel LCDs that has a
> high gloss black bevel to try to match the piano (even though the
> tablet and pocket remote don't). It would be great to find a
> computer monitor that also supports composite video in (since that's
> the video connection that the Disklavier wants), short of that, I
> may put a video card in the computer that supports video "in" so I
> can display the Diskalvier's video output in a window on the
> desktop. I'm planning on removing the tablet AND the pocket remote
> from permanent placement on top of the piano. We'll see how it looks soon enough.

> -Kevin

> ----- Original Message ----
> From: James Fry <groups@jamesfry.com>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:21:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

> No, do NOT take it private. Please keep the discussion ON the list -
> that's what they are for. It is trivial to mark things as read /
> uninteresting / whatever in most mail clients, and even easier to
> remember which threads annoy you and manually avoid them.

> I'm interested by these solutions - elegant or not, and I know I am
> not the only one. Having the discussion archived is useful for new and
> old members alike to search in the archives. Not everyone has oodles
> of money to spend on furniture, and their piano may well be the
> biggest purchase they ever make in their lives, so derogatory comments
> about the quality of furniture people have in their houses are
> completely out of place.

> Perhaps you need the do it yourself brain kit before someone does it
> for you?

> On 27 Jun 2008, at 05:49, Mark wrote:

>> Kevin,

>> Would you really think a knocked down computer cabinet would look good
>> next to the high quality furniture and finish of a Yamaha piano. Do
>> you
>> have a do it yourself brain kit too.

>> Take it private.

>> Kevin Goroway wrote:
>>> Thinking about this instead of a file cabinet:

>>> http://www.homedeco rators.com/ detail.php? parentid= 5117010&aid= froogle&CAWELAID =130285947

>>> It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it in
>>> white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against the
>>> wife...

>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Kevin Goroway
>>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>>;> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

>>> A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...

>>> Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group
>>>; what YOUR email filters are set up for? This way the rest of us can
>>> be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects. I'm sure
>>> that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about
>>> YOUR
>>> email filters. Does it support wildcards? You might look into
>>> that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters
>>> in, oh, about...now.

>>> -Kevin

>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Mark
>>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <http://ups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

>>> Kevin,

>>> Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete button,
>;>> how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can
>>> filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV
>>> MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there
>>> have
>>> been 15 post to that thread.
>>> I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a
>>> giant
>>>; 30 inch flat panel like was suggested.

>>> My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the
>>> screen
>>> and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.

>>> Mark in Idaho

>>> Kevin Goroway wrote:
>>>> I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I
>>>> posted it
>>>> here in the first place.

>>>> The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own
>>>> disklaviers. I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of people
>>>> to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to
>>>> add a
>>>> computer to their piano. I don't think posting this question on,
>>>> say,
>>>;> the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos
>>>> can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...

>>>> There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now,
>>>> or
>>>> in the future might be interested in the same question.

>>>> Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly
>>>> from
>>>> the yahoo groups page):

>>>> "Description

>>>> For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical musical
>>>;> performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."

>>>;> Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this
>>>> group?
>>>> Me neither. So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?

>>>> Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply privately,
>>>> how
>>>> can you figure out how to
>>>>; operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond to
>>>> the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't
>>>> interest you...

>>>> -Kevin

>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Mark >
>>>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier
>>>> %40yahoogroups. com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
>>>>; Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

>>>> Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to
>>>> the
>>>> rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room
>>>> and all
>>>> the problems it presents.

>>>> Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail
>>>> address.
>>>> If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out
>>>> how to
>>>> operate or play a Disklavier?

>>>> Enough already!!!

>>>> Spencer_Lists wrote:

>>>>> Greetings Kevin,

>>>>> Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the
>>>>> piano
>>>>> and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes
>>>>> sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the
>>>>> room or
>>;>>> closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually
>>>>> using it.

>>>>> Spencer

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Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-27 by Mark Fontana

Here's one option for a piano-friendly LCD monitor that I stumbled upon
a while back:

   http://www.syncavision.com/

(The content they provide looks pretty cheese-o-rama to say the least,
and their control system is based on a Mac Mini, but maybe you could
contact them and buy just the monitor?)

Mark


Kevin wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > In the meantime, I'm looking around for flat panel LCDs that has a
> > high gloss black bevel to try to match the piano (even though the
> > tablet and pocket remote don't).  It would be great to find a
> > computer monitor that also supports composite video in (since that's
> > the video connection that the Disklavier wants), short of that, I
> > may put a video card in the computer that supports video "in" so I
> > can display the Diskalvier's video output in a window on the
> > desktop.

Re: Re[2]: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-27 by Kevin Goroway

Frank,  That's a really good idea...but do they come as small as 20" or so?  I'll have to look around.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
----- Original Message ----
From: Frank Evans <evans@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:16:59 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


Hi kevin, 
Getting in on this late, but a thought is to not 
buy a computer monitor, rather an HD TV monitor that has computer inputs, 
composit video, HDMI, etc...etc... .
I have a 32" 720d in the living room which has 2 
composit, 2 rgb component, 2 "S"video, as well as HDMI. All selectable with the 
remote.
Just my $0.02 worth.
BTW.... just to keep it on topic... It's located in 
the room next to the room with the Yamaha :-)
Kindest regards
Frank Evans
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Spencer_Lists 
To: Kevin Goroway 
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:59 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [disklavier] Furniture  suggestions?

Greetings Kevin,

to find just the right monitor aesthetically  speaking you may hove to look at some old stuff or accept something that is  not entirely right but is the right color. something that can extend the range  of possibilities is a device that converts various video formats to VGA. don't  know if they still make them but i have an old thing by viewsonic, i think,  that does this. i also have a nice black monitor that goes with it. it is  stain black, not glossy. krylon makes spray paint specifically to stick to  plastic. you can take the housing apart spray it and put it back if black  gloss is really important to you.

Friday, June 27, 2008, 9:48:29 AM,  you wrote:
> Not intending to take it private. More than one person has  already
> expressed interest in the conversation.

> My wife  wasn't terribly impressed with the whole idea, but we
> re-arranged some  of her dolls and created the required space for
> that "computer  cabinet" that I linked to. I ordered it last night. 
> I'll take  pictures and give a review when it arrives.

> In the meantime, I'm  looking around for flat panel LCDs that has a
> high gloss black bevel  to try to match the piano (even though the
> tablet and pocket remote  don't). It would be great to find a
> computer monitor that also  supports composite video in (since that's
> the video connection that  the Disklavier wants), short of that, I
> may put a video card in the  computer that supports video "in" so I
> can display the Diskalvier's  video output in a window on the
> desktop. I'm planning on removing the  tablet AND the pocket remote
> from permanent placement on top of the  piano. We'll see how it looks soon enough.

> -Kevin

>  ----- Original Message ----
> From: James Fry <groups@jamesfry. com>
>  To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:21:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier]  Furniture suggestions?

> No, do NOT take it private. Please keep the  discussion ON the list - 
> that's what they are for. It is trivial to  mark things as read / 
> uninteresting / whatever in most mail clients,  and even easier to 
> remember which threads annoy you and manually  avoid them.

> I'm interested by these solutions - elegant or not,  and I know I am 
> not the only one. Having the discussion archived is  useful for new and
> old members alike to search in the archives. Not  everyone has oodles 
> of money to spend on furniture, and their piano  may well be the 
> biggest purchase they ever make in their lives, so  derogatory comments
> about the quality of furniture people have in  their houses are 
> completely out of place.

> Perhaps you  need the do it yourself brain kit before someone does it 
> for  you?

> On 27 Jun 2008, at 05:49, Mark wrote:

>>  Kevin,

>> Would you really think a knocked down computer cabinet  would look good
>> next to the high quality furniture and finish of a  Yamaha piano. Do 
>> you
>> have a do it yourself brain kit  too.

>> Take it private.

>> Kevin Goroway  wrote:
>>> Thinking about this instead of a file  cabinet:

>>> http://www.homedeco rators.com/ detail.php?  parentid= 5117010&aid= froogle&CAWELAID =130285947

>>>  It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it  in
>>> white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against  the 
>>> wife...

>>> ----- Original Message  ----
>>> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo.  com>
>>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>>> Sent:  Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier]  Furniture suggestions?

>>> A 30" screen isn't going in there,  that's for sure...

>>> Mark, can you please take the time to  spell out to the entire group
>>> what YOUR email filters are set  up for? This way the rest of us can
>>> be certain that we abide  by YOUR rules of email subjects. I'm sure
>>> that the rest of us  have nothing better to do then to worry about 
>>>  YOUR
>>> email filters. Does it support wildcards? You might look  into
>>> that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR  email filters
>>> in, oh, about...now.

>>>  -Kevin

>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From:  Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
>>> To: disklavier@yahoogro  ups.com <http://ups.com>
>>>  Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re:  [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

>>>  Kevin,

>>> Before you deride me with your comment about using  the delete button,
>>> how about you learn to use a space bar  between Mark and IV so we can
>>> filter out the Mark IV posts.  You are the one who started the MarkIV
>>> MIDI vs USB thread that  got past my filter settings. So far, there 
>>>  have
>>> been 15 post to that thread.
>>> I can't  imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a 
>>>  giant
>>> 30 inch flat panel like was  suggested.

>>> My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop  so you can flip the 
>>> screen
>>> and set the laptop  on the piano just about anywhere.

>>> Mark in  Idaho

>>> Kevin Goroway wrote:
>>>> I suppose  it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I 
>>>> posted  it
>>>> here in the first place.

>>>> The  audience of this group consists primarily of people who  own
>>>> disklaviers. I couldn't think of a more appropriate  group of people
>>>> to ask for suggestions on furnishing a  room when one chooses to 
>>>> add a
>>>>  computer to their piano. I don't think posting this question on, 
>>>> say,
>>>> the piano forums "piano" group  would make sense since most pianos
>>>> can't have a computer  connected to them in the first place...

>>>> There's also  the possibility that someone else on this group, now, 
>>>>  or
>>>> in the future might be interested in the same  question.

>>>> Another point...The description of this  group is (taken directly 
>>>> from
>>>> the  yahoo groups page):

>>>>  "Description

>>>> For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to  swap non-classical musical
>>>> performance files in Midi &  E-Seq formats."

>>>> Do you think that accurately describes  the discussions of this 
>>>> group?
>>>> Me  neither. So who are you to decide what is appropriate  here?

>>>> Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how  to reply privately, 
>>>> how
>>>> can you  figure out how to
>>>> operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if  you know how to respond to
>>>> the group, you certainly know  how to delete an email that doesn't
>>>> interest  you...

>>>> -Kevin

>>>> ----- Original  Message ----
>>>> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net  <mailto:MarkGMID% 40cableone. net>>
>>>> To:  disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier 
>>>>  %40yahoogroups. com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008  1:18:51 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture  suggestions?

>>>> Why have you not taken this thread  private? It is not relevant to 
>>>> the
>>>>  rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room 
>>>> and all
>>>> the problems it  presents.

>>>> Remember, all of the e-mails have the  original senders e-mail 
>>>> address.
>>>> If  you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out 
>>>> how to
>>>> operate or play a  Disklavier?

>>>> Enough already!!!

>>>>  Spencer_Lists wrote:

>>>>> Greetings  Kevin,

>>>>> Another possibility is using a wireless  MIDI connection at the 
>>>>> piano
>>>>>  and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever  makes
>>>>> sense. The notebook is best because it can be  anywhere in the 
>>>>> room or
>>>>>  closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not  actually
>>>>> using it.

>>>>>  Spencer

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>> To Post a private message to Todd  Muncy, the group's founder and 
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Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-06-27 by Kevin Goroway

Mark,

That would be PERFECT!  Thanks for the link...now to try to track down a dealer to see if they will see just the music desk/monitor...

-Kevin



----- Original Message ----
From: Mark Fontana <mfontana@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 4:40:21 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?




Here's one option for a piano-friendly LCD monitor that I stumbled upon
a while back:

http://www.syncavis ion.com/

(The content they provide looks pretty cheese-o-rama to say the least,
and their control system is based on a Mac Mini, but maybe you could
contact them and buy just the monitor?)

Mark

Kevin wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > In the meantime, I'm looking around for flat panel LCDs that has a
> > high gloss black bevel to try to match the piano (even though the
> > tablet and pocket remote don't).  It would be great to find a
> > computer monitor that also supports composite video in (since that's
> > the video connection that the Disklavier wants), short of that, I
> > may put a video card in the computer that supports video "in" so I
> > can display the Diskalvier's video output in a window on the
> > desktop.

Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-07-04 by Kevin Goroway

I said I would follow-up, so here it is.

The cabinet arrived.  It's lower quality than I was hoping for (especially for the price after shipping, etc.)  But it is perfectly suited for housing a computer in a very small space.  That being said, the wife and I are considering this attempt a complete failure.  We're not satisfied with the end result.  Here are some photos.  I couldn't get the whole room in one shot, so I took two so that you can get an overall feel for the size/"audience".

http://home.comcast.net/~kgoroway/piano/RoomRight.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~kgoroway/piano/RoomLeft.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~kgoroway/piano/Cabinet.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~kgoroway/piano/CabinetOpen.jpg

The last shot shows the tablet remote placed in the cabinet, a movable shelf above that holds the headphones.  On the right is a nice roll out file drawer for sheet music.  The shelf above that is also on rollers, and pulls out smoothly.  Of course, the keyboard is on a sliding shelf as well.  Since this is considered a failed attempt, I didn't take the time to really make it right.  The flat panel is a spare 24" I have.  I think a gloss black 22" or so would be nicer.  Even 19" would probably be sufficient.  The keyboard and mouse are wired cheap versions thrown in with the computer, and the pocket remote is still on the piano since I didn't have an outlet strip to plug it into behind the cabinet.  There are also two cables between the computer and the piano that I would end up routing more cleanly...but...we aren't happy enough with it to pursue.

I'm still open to suggestions.  In the meantime, I went out and bought a Yamaha NP-30 at the local Sam Ash:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-NP30-Digital-Keyboard?sku=702663&src=3SOSWXXA

The idea was that if I can't have a dedicated computer in the piano room, I could have a dedicated keyboard in the computer room.  Not a bad solution, but the NP-30 is going back.  The keyboard just isn't high enough quality (non-weighted) for it to be a C3 replacement.  There are VERY few fully weighted non-88 key keyboards out there...I don't want the full 88 keys in the computer room due to the size...so I'm shopping around in that area as well...

-Kevin




----- Original Message ----
From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:48:29 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


Not intending to take it private.  More than one person has already expressed interest in the conversation.

My wife wasn't terribly impressed with the whole idea, but we re-arranged some of her dolls and created the required space for that "computer cabinet" that I linked to.  I ordered it last night.  I'll take pictures and give a review when it arrives.

In the meantime, I'm looking around for flat panel LCDs that has a high gloss black bevel to try to match the piano (even though the tablet and pocket remote don't).  It would be great to find a computer monitor that also supports composite video in (since that's the video connection that the Disklavier wants), short of that, I may put a video card in the computer that supports video "in" so I can display the Diskalvier's video output in a window on the desktop.  I'm planning on removing the tablet AND the pocket remote from permanent placement on top of the piano.  We'll see how it looks soon enough.

-Kevin



----- Original Message ----
From: James Fry <groups@jamesfry. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:21:50 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


No, do NOT take it private. Please keep the discussion ON the list - 
that's what they are for. It is trivial to mark things as read / 
uninteresting / whatever in most mail clients, and even easier to 
remember which threads annoy you and manually avoid them.

I'm interested by these solutions - elegant or not, and I know I am 
not the only one. Having the discussion archived is useful for new and 
old members alike to search in the archives. Not everyone has oodles 
of money to spend on furniture, and their piano may well be the 
biggest purchase they ever make in their lives, so derogatory comments 
about the quality of furniture people have in their houses are 
completely out of place.

Perhaps you need the do it yourself brain kit before someone does it 
for you?
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On 27 Jun 2008, at 05:49, Mark wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> Would you really think a knocked down computer cabinet would look good
> next to the high quality furniture and finish of a Yamaha piano. Do 
> you
> have a do it yourself brain kit too.
>
> Take it private.
>
>
> Kevin Goroway wrote:
>> Thinking about this instead of a file cabinet:
>>
>> http://www.homedeco rators.com/ detail.php? parentid= 5117010&aid= froogle&CAWELAID =130285947
>>
>> It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it in
>> white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against the 
>> wife...
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>>
>> A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...
>>
>> Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group
>> what YOUR email filters are set up for?  This way the rest of us can
>> be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects.  I'm sure
>> that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about 
>> YOUR
>> email filters.  Does it support wildcards?  You might look into
>> that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters
>> in, oh, about...now.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <http://ups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete button,
>> how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can
>> filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV
>> MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there 
>> have
>> been 15 post to that thread.
>> I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a 
>> giant
>> 30 inch flat panel like was suggested.
>>
>> My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the 
>> screen
>> and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.
>>
>> Mark in Idaho
>>
>> Kevin Goroway wrote:
>>> I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I 
>>> posted it
>>> here in the first place.
>>>
>>> The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own
>>> disklaviers. I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of people
>>> to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to 
>>> add a
>>> computer to their piano. I don't think posting this question on, 
>>> say,
>>> the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos
>>> can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...
>>>
>>> There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now, 
>>> or
>>> in the future might be interested in the same question.
>>>
>>> Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly 
>>> from
>>> the yahoo groups page):
>>>
>>>
>>> "Description
>>>
>>> For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical musical
>>> performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."
>>>
>>> Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this 
>>> group?
>>> Me neither. So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?
>>>
>>> Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply privately, 
>>> how
>>> can you figure out how to
>>> operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond to
>>> the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't
>>> interest you...
>>>
>>> -Kevin
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net <mailto:MarkGMID% 40cableone. net>>
>>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier 
>>> %40yahoogroups. com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>>>
>>> Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to 
>>> the
>>> rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room 
>>> and all
>>> the problems it presents.
>>>
>>> Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail 
>>> address.
>>> If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out 
>>> how to
>>> operate or play a Disklavier?
>>>
>>> Enough already!!!
>>>
>>> Spencer_Lists wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Kevin,
>>>>
>>>> Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the 
>>>> piano
>>>> and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes
>>>> sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the 
>>>> room or
>>>> closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually
>>>> using it.
>>>>
>>>> Spencer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-07-05 by James Fry

Hello Kevin,

If you want a very high quality non-88 key digital piano, try the Nord  
Stage 76. It is expensive and uses a customised Fatar action, but it  
is the closest thing that I've come across to a real piano in terms of  
response and feel (even if it is a bit light it makes you work at the  
keys!). The latest OS update and samples make it even better.

If you want to see how it is size wise, here are a couple of photos of  
my smaller gig rig:

http://www.jamesfry.com/rig1.jpg
http://www.jamesfry.com/rig2.jpg

As you can see, it is barely longer than the Triton 61 key workstation!

Regarding a cabinet - why don't you speak to a furniture maker? It  
should be possible to get something that is highly polished similar to  
the piano for not too much money I would have thought - and it can  
meet your specifications.

Regards

James
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On 4 Jul 2008, at 20:23, Kevin Goroway wrote:

> I said I would follow-up, so here it is.
>
> The cabinet arrived.  It's lower quality than I was hoping for  
> (especially for the price after shipping, etc.)  But it is perfectly  
> suited for housing a computer in a very small space.  That being  
> said, the wife and I are considering this attempt a complete  
> failure.  We're not satisfied with the end result.  Here are some  
> photos.  I couldn't get the whole room in one shot, so I took two so  
> that you can get an overall feel for the size/"audience".
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~kgoroway/piano/RoomRight.jpg
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~kgoroway/piano/RoomLeft.jpg
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~kgoroway/piano/Cabinet.jpg
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~kgoroway/piano/CabinetOpen.jpg
>
> The last shot shows the tablet remote placed in the cabinet, a  
> movable shelf above that holds the headphones.  On the right is a  
> nice roll out file drawer for sheet music.  The shelf above that is  
> also on rollers, and pulls out smoothly.  Of course, the keyboard is  
> on a sliding shelf as well.  Since this is considered a failed  
> attempt, I didn't take the time to really make it right.  The flat  
> panel is a spare 24" I have.  I think a gloss black 22" or so would  
> be nicer.  Even 19" would probably be sufficient.  The keyboard and  
> mouse are wired cheap versions thrown in with the computer, and the  
> pocket remote is still on the piano since I didn't have an outlet  
> strip to plug it into behind the cabinet.  There are also two cables  
> between the computer and the piano that I would end up routing more  
> cleanly...but...we aren't happy enough with it to pursue.
>
> I'm still open to suggestions.  In the meantime, I went out and  
> bought a Yamaha NP-30 at the local Sam Ash:
>
> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-NP30-Digital-Keyboard?sku=702663&src=3SOSWXXA
>
> The idea was that if I can't have a dedicated computer in the piano  
> room, I could have a dedicated keyboard in the computer room.  Not a  
> bad solution, but the NP-30 is going back.  The keyboard just isn't  
> high enough quality (non-weighted) for it to be a C3 replacement.   
> There are VERY few fully weighted non-88 key keyboards out there...I  
> don't want the full 88 keys in the computer room due to the  
> size...so I'm shopping around in that area as well...
>
> -Kevin
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:48:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>
>
> Not intending to take it private.  More than one person has already  
> expressed interest in the conversation.
>
> My wife wasn't terribly impressed with the whole idea, but we re- 
> arranged some of her dolls and created the required space for that  
> "computer cabinet" that I linked to.  I ordered it last night.  I'll  
> take pictures and give a review when it arrives.
>
> In the meantime, I'm looking around for flat panel LCDs that has a  
> high gloss black bevel to try to match the piano (even though the  
> tablet and pocket remote don't).  It would be great to find a  
> computer monitor that also supports composite video in (since that's  
> the video connection that the Disklavier wants), short of that, I  
> may put a video card in the computer that supports video "in" so I  
> can display the Diskalvier's video output in a window on the  
> desktop.  I'm planning on removing the tablet AND the pocket remote  
> from permanent placement on top of the piano.  We'll see how it  
> looks soon enough.
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: James Fry <groups@jamesfry. com>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:21:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>
> No, do NOT take it private. Please keep the discussion ON the list -
> that's what they are for. It is trivial to mark things as read /
> uninteresting / whatever in most mail clients, and even easier to
> remember which threads annoy you and manually avoid them.
>
> I'm interested by these solutions - elegant or not, and I know I am
> not the only one. Having the discussion archived is useful for new and
> old members alike to search in the archives. Not everyone has oodles
> of money to spend on furniture, and their piano may well be the
> biggest purchase they ever make in their lives, so derogatory comments
> about the quality of furniture people have in their houses are
> completely out of place.
>
> Perhaps you need the do it yourself brain kit before someone does it
> for you?
>
> On 27 Jun 2008, at 05:49, Mark wrote:
>
> > Kevin,
> >
> > Would you really think a knocked down computer cabinet would look  
> good
> > next to the high quality furniture and finish of a Yamaha piano. Do
> > you
> > have a do it yourself brain kit too.
> >
> > Take it private.
> >
> >
> > Kevin Goroway wrote:
> >> Thinking about this instead of a file cabinet:
> >>
> >> http://www.homedeco rators.com/ detail.php? parentid=  
> 5117010&aid= froogle&CAWELAID =130285947
> >>
> >> It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it in
> >> white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against the
> >> wife...
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
> >> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
> >>
> >> A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...
> >>
> >> Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group
> >> what YOUR email filters are set up for? This way the rest of us can
> >> be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects. I'm sure
> >> that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about
> >> YOUR
> >> email filters. Does it support wildcards? You might look into
> >> that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters
> >> in, oh, about...now.
> >>
> >> -Kevin
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
> >> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <http://ups.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
> >>
> >> Kevin,
> >>
> >> Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete  
> button,
> >> how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we  
> can
> >> filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the  
> MarkIV
> >> MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there
> >> have
> >> been 15 post to that thread.
> >> I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a
> >> giant
> >> 30 inch flat panel like was suggested.
> >>
> >> My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the
> >> screen
> >> and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.
> >>
> >> Mark in Idaho
> >>
> >> Kevin Goroway wrote:
> >>> I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I
> >>> posted it
> >>> here in the first place.
> >>>
> >>> The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own
> >>> disklaviers. I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of  
> people
> >>> to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to
> >>> add a
> >>> computer to their piano. I don't think posting this question on,
> >>> say,
> >>> the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos
> >>> can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...
> >>>
> >>> There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now,
> >>> or
> >>> in the future might be interested in the same question.
> >>>
> >>> Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly
> >>> from
> >>> the yahoo groups page):
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Description
> >>>
> >>> For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical  
> musical
> >>> performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."
> >>>
> >>> Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this
> >>> group?
> >>> Me neither. So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?
> >>>
> >>> Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply privately,
> >>> how
> >>> can you figure out how to
> >>> operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond  
> to
> >>> the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't
> >>> interest you...
> >>>
> >>> -Kevin
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net <mailto:MarkGMID% 40cableone.  
> net>>
> >>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier
> >>> %40yahoogroups. com>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
> >>>
> >>> Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to
> >>> the
> >>> rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room
> >>> and all
> >>> the problems it presents.
> >>>
> >>> Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail
> >>> address.
> >>> If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out
> >>> how to
> >>> operate or play a Disklavier?
> >>>
> >>> Enough already!!!
> >>>
> >>> Spencer_Lists wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Greetings Kevin,
> >>>>
> >>>> Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the
> >>>> piano
> >>>> and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever  
> makes
> >>>> sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the
> >>>> room or
> >>>> closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not  
> actually
> >>>> using it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Spencer
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-07-14 by Kevin Goroway

Well,  an interior decorator, and a heap of money later....here's the room now.  

http://home.comcast.net/~kgoroway/piano/AFTER_right.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~kgoroway/piano/AFTER_center.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~kgoroway/piano/AFTER_left.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~kgoroway/piano/AFTER_cabinet.jpg

It's funny how the monitor completely disappears in the room now.  Sigh...

Thanks for all of the advice.  Especially the ones that were along the lines of "add more furniture."  The room now feels finished, and the dolls are an accent, not the entire room.

-Kevin



----- Original Message ----
From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 4, 2008 3:23:29 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


I said I would follow-up, so here it is.

The cabinet arrived.  It's lower quality than I was hoping for (especially for the price after shipping, etc.)  But it is perfectly suited for housing a computer in a very small space.  That being said, the wife and I are considering this attempt a complete failure.  We're not satisfied with the end result.  Here are some photos.  I couldn't get the whole room in one shot, so I took two so that you can get an overall feel for the size/"audience" .

http://home. comcast.net/ ~kgoroway/ piano/RoomRight. jpg

http://home. comcast.net/ ~kgoroway/ piano/RoomLeft. jpg

http://home. comcast.net/ ~kgoroway/ piano/Cabinet. jpg

http://home. comcast.net/ ~kgoroway/ piano/CabinetOpe n.jpg

The last shot shows the tablet remote placed in the cabinet, a movable shelf above that holds the headphones.  On the right is a nice roll out file drawer for sheet music.  The shelf above that is also on rollers, and pulls out smoothly.  Of course, the keyboard is on a sliding shelf as well.  Since this is considered a failed attempt, I didn't take the time to really make it right.  The flat panel is a spare 24" I have.  I think a gloss black 22" or so would be nicer.  Even 19" would probably be sufficient.  The keyboard and mouse are wired cheap versions thrown in with the computer, and the pocket remote is still on the piano since I didn't have an outlet strip to plug it into behind the cabinet.  There are also two cables between the computer and the piano that I would end up routing more cleanly...but. ..we aren't happy enough with it to pursue.

I'm still open to suggestions.  In the meantime, I went out and bought a Yamaha NP-30 at the local Sam Ash:

http://www.musician sfriend.com/ product/Yamaha- NP30-Digital- Keyboard? sku=702663&src=3SOSWXXA

The idea was that if I can't have a dedicated computer in the piano room, I could have a dedicated keyboard in the computer room.  Not a bad solution, but the NP-30 is going back.  The keyboard just isn't high enough quality (non-weighted) for it to be a C3 replacement.  There are VERY few fully weighted non-88 key keyboards out there...I don't want the full 88 keys in the computer room due to the size...so I'm shopping around in that area as well...

-Kevin




----- Original Message ----
From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:48:29 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


Not intending to take it private.  More than one person has already expressed interest in the conversation.

My wife wasn't terribly impressed with the whole idea, but we re-arranged some of her dolls and created the required space for that "computer cabinet" that I linked to.  I ordered it last night.  I'll take pictures and give a review when it arrives.

In the meantime, I'm looking around for flat panel LCDs that has a high gloss black bevel to try to match the piano (even though the tablet and pocket remote don't).  It would be great to find a computer monitor that also supports composite video in (since that's the video connection that the Disklavier wants), short of that, I may put a video card in the computer that supports video "in" so I can display the Diskalvier's video output in a window on the desktop.  I'm planning on removing the tablet AND the pocket remote from permanent placement on top of the piano.  We'll see how it looks soon enough.

-Kevin



----- Original Message ----
From: James Fry <groups@jamesfry. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:21:50 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


No, do NOT take it private. Please keep the discussion ON the list - 
that's what they are for. It is trivial to mark things as read / 
uninteresting / whatever in most mail clients, and even easier to 
remember which threads annoy you and manually avoid them.

I'm interested by these solutions - elegant or not, and I know I am 
not the only one. Having the discussion archived is useful for new and 
old members alike to search in the archives. Not everyone has oodles 
of money to spend on furniture, and their piano may well be the 
biggest purchase they ever make in their lives, so derogatory comments 
about the quality of furniture people have in their houses are 
completely out of place.

Perhaps you need the do it yourself brain kit before someone does it 
for you?
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On 27 Jun 2008, at 05:49, Mark wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> Would you really think a knocked down computer cabinet would look good
> next to the high quality furniture and finish of a Yamaha piano. Do 
> you
> have a do it yourself brain kit too.
>
> Take it private.
>
>
> Kevin Goroway wrote:
>> Thinking about this instead of a file cabinet:
>>
>> http://www.homedeco rators.com/ detail.php? parentid= 5117010&aid= froogle&CAWELAID =130285947
>>
>> It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it in
>> white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against the 
>> wife...
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>>
>> A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...
>>
>> Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group
>> what YOUR email filters are set up for?  This way the rest of us can
>> be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects.  I'm sure
>> that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about 
>> YOUR
>> email filters.  Does it support wildcards?  You might look into
>> that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters
>> in, oh, about...now.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <http://ups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete button,
>> how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can
>> filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV
>> MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there 
>> have
>> been 15 post to that thread.
>> I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a 
>> giant
>> 30 inch flat panel like was suggested.
>>
>> My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the 
>> screen
>> and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.
>>
>> Mark in Idaho
>>
>> Kevin Goroway wrote:
>>> I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I 
>>> posted it
>>> here in the first place.
>>>
>>> The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own
>>> disklaviers. I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of people
>>> to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to 
>>> add a
>>> computer to their piano. I don't think posting this question on, 
>>> say,
>>> the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos
>>> can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...
>>>
>>> There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now, 
>>> or
>>> in the future might be interested in the same question.
>>>
>>> Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly 
>>> from
>>> the yahoo groups page):
>>>
>>>
>>> "Description
>>>
>>> For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical musical
>>> performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."
>>>
>>> Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this 
>>> group?
>>> Me neither. So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?
>>>
>>> Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply privately, 
>>> how
>>> can you figure out how to
>>> operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond to
>>> the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't
>>> interest you...
>>>
>>> -Kevin
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net <mailto:MarkGMID% 40cableone. net>>
>>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier 
>>> %40yahoogroups. com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>>>
>>> Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to 
>>> the
>>> rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room 
>>> and all
>>> the problems it presents.
>>>
>>> Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail 
>>> address.
>>> If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out 
>>> how to
>>> operate or play a Disklavier?
>>>
>>> Enough already!!!
>>>
>>> Spencer_Lists wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Kevin,
>>>>
>>>> Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the 
>>>> piano
>>>> and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes
>>>> sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the 
>>>> room or
>>>> closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually
>>>> using it.
>>>>
>>>> Spencer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?

2008-07-15 by Phil Blah

That looks great Kevin, I think the most important thing here is while the room is more 'busy' it feels very confortable.. So yourself and guests will just 'hang out' in that room and listen to the piano and I am sure have a few wines.
If you had it very empty you'll also find the sound very echo'y and dull, plus if the room is unconfortable with nothing much too look at.. You'll find friends that are not 'piano people' might get a bit bored too.. So well done.
The mirror looks excellent! the lamps are excellent also...Lamps are possibly one of the best things.
However, the best thing you can do for that computer screen is get a nice desk, a small 'presidents desk' they have the BLACK leather top (not green). That would look very cool. Get a nice wireless key/mouse set you can just chuck in the draws, or you can walk around the room with it... I think the fabrick drape over the desk is nice, but you might need to use that somewhere else.
The final thing, I suggest, is rather than old ladies tea tables and chairs, find a designer lounge, something confortable and bold so people can relax while sitting down.. Try and find something that is even a L shape so it will fit snug in the oppsite corner to the piano..Ensure that it is black leather... try and keep too much colours away. 
Also rather than the plastic plant, (although you could keep it still) I would get a big statue, even just a cheapish concrete full length or a bust. You could even go a bit daring and have a mini replica of David. 
With the carpet if you had the chance (and budget) I would replace it with DARK blood red, nice thickish.. I have done that and it looks unreal with the black piano. (except I have to bloody vacume all the time as it picks up bits of white fluff lol but worth it).
Cheers,
Philip
PS, whats with all the spaces on your links?



----- Original Message ----
From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:28:22 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


Well,  an interior decorator, and a heap of money later....here' s the room now.  

http://home. comcast.net/ ~kgoroway/ piano/AFTER_ right.jpg
http://home. comcast.net/ ~kgoroway/ piano/AFTER_ center.jpg
http://home. comcast.net/ ~kgoroway/ piano/AFTER_ left.jpg
http://home. comcast.net/ ~kgoroway/ piano/AFTER_ cabinet.jpg

It's funny how the monitor completely disappears in the room now.  Sigh...

Thanks for all of the advice..  Especially the ones that were along the lines of "add more furniture."  The room now feels finished, and the dolls are an accent, not the entire room.

-Kevin



----- Original Message ----
From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, July 4, 2008 3:23:29 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


I said I would follow-up, so here it is.

The cabinet arrived.  It's lower quality than I was hoping for (especially for the price after shipping, etc.)  But it is perfectly suited for housing a computer in a very small space.  That being said, the wife and I are considering this attempt a complete failure.  We're not satisfied with the end result.  Here are some photos.  I couldn't get the whole room in one shot, so I took two so that you can get an overall feel for the size/"audience" .

http://home. comcast.net/ ~kgoroway/ piano/RoomRight. jpg

http://home. comcast.net/ ~kgoroway/ piano/RoomLeft. jpg

http://home. comcast.net/ ~kgoroway/ piano/Cabinet. jpg

http://home. comcast.net/ ~kgoroway/ piano/CabinetOpe n.jpg

The last shot shows the tablet remote placed in the cabinet, a movable shelf above that holds the headphones.  On the right is a nice roll out file drawer for sheet music.  The shelf above that is also on rollers, and pulls out smoothly.  Of course, the keyboard is on a sliding shelf as well.  Since this is considered a failed attempt, I didn't take the time to really make it right.  The flat panel is a spare 24" I have.  I think a gloss black 22" or so would be nicer.  Even 19" would probably be sufficient.  The keyboard and mouse are wired cheap versions thrown in with the computer, and the pocket remote is still on the piano since I didn't have an outlet strip to plug it into behind the cabinet.  There are also two cables between the computer and the piano that I would end up routing more cleanly...but. ..we aren't happy enough with it to pursue.

I'm still open to suggestions.  In the meantime, I went out and bought a Yamaha NP-30 at the local Sam Ash:

http://www.musician sfriend.com/ product/Yamaha- NP30-Digital- Keyboard? sku=702663&src=3SOSWXXA

The idea was that if I can't have a dedicated computer in the piano room, I could have a dedicated keyboard in the computer room.  Not a bad solution, but the NP-30 is going back.  The keyboard just isn't high enough quality (non-weighted) for it to be a C3 replacement.  There are VERY few fully weighted non-88 key keyboards out there...I don't want the full 88 keys in the computer room due to the size...so I'm shopping around in that area as well...

-Kevin




----- Original Message ----
From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:48:29 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


Not intending to take it private.  More than one person has already expressed interest in the conversation.

My wife wasn't terribly impressed with the whole idea, but we re-arranged some of her dolls and created the required space for that "computer cabinet" that I linked to.  I ordered it last night.  I'll take pictures and give a review when it arrives.

In the meantime, I'm looking around for flat panel LCDs that has a high gloss black bevel to try to match the piano (even though the tablet and pocket remote don't).  It would be great to find a computer monitor that also supports composite video in (since that's the video connection that the Disklavier wants), short of that, I may put a video card in the computer that supports video "in" so I can display the Diskalvier's video output in a window on the desktop.  I'm planning on removing the tablet AND the pocket remote from permanent placement on top of the piano.  We'll see how it looks soon enough.

-Kevin



----- Original Message ----
From: James Fry <groups@jamesfry. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:21:50 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?


No, do NOT take it private. Please keep the discussion ON the list - 
that's what they are for. It is trivial to mark things as read / 
uninteresting / whatever in most mail clients, and even easier to 
remember which threads annoy you and manually avoid them.

I'm interested by these solutions - elegant or not, and I know I am 
not the only one. Having the discussion archived is useful for new and 
old members alike to search in the archives. Not everyone has oodles 
of money to spend on furniture, and their piano may well be the 
biggest purchase they ever make in their lives, so derogatory comments 
about the quality of furniture people have in their houses are 
completely out of place.

Perhaps you need the do it yourself brain kit before someone does it 
for you?
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On 27 Jun 2008, at 05:49, Mark wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> Would you really think a knocked down computer cabinet would look good
> next to the high quality furniture and finish of a Yamaha piano. Do 
> you
> have a do it yourself brain kit too.
>
> Take it private.
>
>
> Kevin Goroway wrote:
>> Thinking about this instead of a file cabinet:
>>
>> http://www.homedeco rators.com/ detail.php? parentid= 5117010&aid= froogle&CAWELAID =130285947
>>
>> It doesn't look great open, but the "alternate view" shows it in
>> white, but with the doors closed... Have to try it against the 
>> wife...
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:37:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>>
>> A 30" screen isn't going in there, that's for sure...
>>
>> Mark, can you please take the time to spell out to the entire group
>> what YOUR email filters are set up for? This way the rest of us can
>> be certain that we abide by YOUR rules of email subjects. I'm sure
>> that the rest of us have nothing better to do then to worry about 
>> YOUR
>> email filters.. Does it support wildcards? You might look into
>> that... I can guarantee that I will forget about YOUR email filters
>> in, oh, about...now.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net>
>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <http://ups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:31:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> Before you deride me with your comment about using the delete button,
>> how about you learn to use a space bar between Mark and IV so we can
>> filter out the Mark IV posts. You are the one who started the MarkIV
>> MIDI vs USB thread that got past my filter settings. So far, there 
>> have
>> been 15 post to that thread.
>> I can't imagine the aesthetics of a Grand piano in a room with a 
>> giant
>> 30 inch flat panel like was suggested.
>>
>> My suggestion would be to buy a tablet laptop so you can flip the 
>> screen
>> and set the laptop on the piano just about anywhere.
>>
>> Mark in Idaho
>>
>> Kevin Goroway wrote:
>>> I suppose it wasn't taken private for the same reason that I 
>>> posted it
>>> here in the first place.
>>>
>>> The audience of this group consists primarily of people who own
>>> disklaviers. I couldn't think of a more appropriate group of people
>>> to ask for suggestions on furnishing a room when one chooses to 
>>> add a
>>> computer to their piano. I don't think posting this question on, 
>>> say,
>>> the piano forums "piano" group would make sense since most pianos
>>> can't have a computer connected to them in the first place...
>>>
>>> There's also the possibility that someone else on this group, now, 
>>> or
>>> in the future might be interested in the same question.
>>>
>>> Another point...The description of this group is (taken directly 
>>> from
>>> the yahoo groups page):
>>>
>>>
>>> "Description
>>>
>>> For owners of Yamaha Disklavier pianos to swap non-classical musical
>>> performance files in Midi & E-Seq formats."
>>>
>>> Do you think that accurately describes the discussions of this 
>>> group?
>>> Me neither. So who are you to decide what is appropriate here?
>>>
>>> Lastly, in response to "If you do not know how to reply privately, 
>>> how
>>> can you figure out how to
>>> operate or play a Disklavier?" I say, if you know how to respond to
>>> the group, you certainly know how to delete an email that doesn't
>>> interest you...
>>>
>>> -Kevin
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Mark <MarkGMID@cableone. net <mailto:MarkGMID% 40cableone. net>>
>>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier 
>>> %40yahoogroups. com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:18:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Furniture suggestions?
>>>
>>> Why have you not taken this thread private? It is not relevant to 
>>> the
>>> rest of us. I do not care about the problems with one small room 
>>> and all
>>> the problems it presents.
>>>
>>> Remember, all of the e-mails have the original senders e-mail 
>>> address.
>>> If you do not know how to reply privately, how can you figure out 
>>> how to
>>> operate or play a Disklavier?
>>>
>>> Enough already!!!
>>>
>>> Spencer_Lists wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Kevin,
>>>>
>>>> Another possibility is using a wireless MIDI connection at the 
>>>> piano
>>>> and a notebook computer or put the desktop computer wherever makes
>>>> sense. The notebook is best because it can be anywhere in the 
>>>> room or
>>>> closed up and or taken completely out of the room when not actually
>>>> using it.
>>>>
>>>> Spencer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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