Disklavier

No it doesn't



On 7/11/08, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...> wrote:
> Does the pro come with the built-in speakers nowadays?  I think
> once-upon-a-time that they didn't, but that might have changed recently.
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: j109876 <j109876@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:21:35 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: Which one,
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> Thanks for the input everyone !
> Looks like the pro is the way to go .... that is if there isn't too
> much of a gap in the price. The quietness aspect would be quite
> important in that decision, hypothetically what should I expect to
> pay for the pro?  The prices I am hearing seem to vary quite a bit.
>
> James
>
> --- In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, "genohanson" <obsession18f45@ ...>
> wrote:
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>> James,
>>
>> Hopefully someone else can also chime in on this because they may
>> have a different experience.  I have a M4 Pro and never owned just
>> the M4 so my only real experience with the plain M4 is at my local
>> piano store.  First of all, the difference between the units is 128
>> increments of velocity for a regular M4 and 1024 for the Pro.
>>
>> What I would say is under normal listening conditions there's
>> practically no difference.  The ability for our ears to discern the
>> difference between 128 and 1024 steps is probably minimal.  It's
>> there and you might be able to hear it if you're comparing side by
>> side, but it might not make any practical difference.  I think the
>> analogy is with high fidelity music where most people might be able
>> to discern the difference, but it might not matter at all to their
>> listening enjoyment.
>>
>> One of the big issues here is that there isn't a lot of content
>> available for the pro models.  Outside of the E-Competition files,
> I
>> don't think there's any source of material unless you have a pro
>> model and record your own.  Oh, great!  It records the nuisances of
>> my keystroke mistakes with 1024 step accuracy! ;-)
>>
>> But having said that, here's where I've found it to be really
>> valuable: when playing a song softly which I do with regularity.
>> Because of the loudness of the piano, I usually play at 30-39 - no
>> where near 100 which I find so incredibly loud as to not be
> enjoyable
>> if I'm right next to it.  Although perfectly fine if I'm in my
>> neighbor's house! ;-) So the extra degradations make a lot of
>> difference when the 128 steps get mapped into the 1024.
>>
>> Here's what I think is happening and someone please correct this if
> I
>> don't have something right or if this is just plain wrong.  Let's
>> take a song that has the entire dynamic range of the 128 increments
>> of velocity.  (Many if not most pieces will not utilize the entire
>> range.) Playing the song at 100% volume gives you that 128
>> increments.  Playing it at 50% means every note is only hit at half
>> the velocity which means the piano now only has 64 increments for
> the
>> performance.  Play it at 33% and you're down to about 43.  (Again,
>> that's the best case scenario because the piano player probably
>> wasn't hitting the keys at their absolute hardest on the loudest
>> sections so you might be down to very few incremental steps.) That
> is
>> going to be noticeable and I believe they don't recommend playing a
>> song really below 39.  With mine I get acceptable performance down
> to
>> 25%, and I certainly think a good reason is the Pro version still
> has
>> 256 increments to work with when you're at 25%.
>>
>> By the way, if you're going to be playing the music at a lower
>> volume, it is more imperative that the calibration is good.
>>
>> Gene
>>
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>> --- In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, "j109876" <j109876@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > I'm new to the group and looking for some advice as to the
>> difference
>> > between the DC3 M4 and DC3 M4 Pro , in reality is there much
>> difference
>> > in the performance level?
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > James
>> >
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