Disklavier

And once again, I ask that we don't move away. Please show me a  
properly threaded discussion board, which supports a full tree of  
posts like email/newsgroups do (every web forum I've seen has  
"threads" which are just flat lists of posts, and they soon get off  
topic) and I'll happily move - as long as it is still possible to get  
messages by email, and contribute back by email.

You are wrong about email based groups disappearing - they are still  
very much mainstream, and in many areas are the only reliable group  
communication system. Perhaps its my technical background, and the  
fact I'm quite capable of telling at a glance whether messages are of  
interest to me, but I really don't see the problem with mailing lists  
- whether or not the messages contain the "MarkIV" marker or not.

Ho humm...





On 12 Jul 2008, at 18:54, Josh Goldman wrote:

> (sigh) once again I suggest that a GOOD threaded discussion system  
> would alleviate all these problems.  you could still get it all by  
> email if you want, you can read subjects you're interested in  
> (properly threaded James) and you could ignore topics you didn't  
> want.  You could ignore people you didn't like, admins could move  
> topics to the right area when someone makes an honest mistake.   
> There can be software download areas, areas for discussions of  
> different models or activities, cross-posting, general discussion  
> areas.
>
> Email-based groups have long since disappeared from every major  
> subject area for exactly these reasons.  email doesn't work right  
> for these types of discussions.  Y
>
> There's more discussion here around protocol, name calling, policing/ 
> bullying, and the strings of replies than the actual subject at hand.
>
> This is why Yahoo Groups doesn't usually work for active  
> communities... they almost always migrate away.  check any auto- 
> brand forum, A/V equipment forum, pet forums, lifestyles, travel.   
> The Yahoo Groups forums die and are replaced by good vBulletin  
> forums (or something similar) for just about everyone.  These exact  
> issues come up... people trying to enforce their conventions on  
> others, people complaining about the spaminess, name calling (that  
> the whole group gets exposed to)... and once the (somewhat painful)  
> switchover is made, everyone likes the result much better.
>
> I do speak from some experience having helped to migrate a similar  
> audio/video forum 3 years ago from Yahoo Groups over to a vBulletin  
> system. (www.kscapeowners.com)  All our members became MUCH happier  
> afterwards, though there was the same resistance initially... and we  
> DO have members who have set their setting to get ALL new posts by  
> email, so for them it ends up working exactly as the Yahoo Groups  
> system did.
>
> --josh
>
>
> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com]  
> On Behalf Of Ray Reich
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:03 AM
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com; 'Mark'
> Subject: [disklavier] Subject - Mark
>
> Kevin:
> Mark is no doubt a very unhappy person that gets his kicks out of  
> berating others…it is sad.  I am on another listserve where we had a  
> similar personality and after about a year of dealing with his  
> sarcasm we booted him from the list.  I would suggest that Todd give  
> Mark the boot.
>
> By the way, every male I have ever known that took joy in being  
> nasty to others was short…I believe psychologists call it the  
> Napoleon Complex.   Mark, would you care to honestly share your  
> height so I can test my theory???
>
> Ray Reich
>
> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com]  
> On Behalf Of Kevin Goroway
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:08 PM
> To: Mark
> Cc: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [SPAM][disklavier] Re: Subject Mark Four
>
> Is anyone else getting these insulting emails from Mark? It's not  
> the first one I've gotten.
>
> Mark, do you send this same email to every single poster on the  
> group? I haven't started any threads recently...am I supposed to  
> change everyone's subjects when I respond in order to satisfy you?
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark <MarkGMID@...>
> To: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...>
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 7:17:32 PM
> Subject: Subject Mark IV
>
> Label your subject as Mark IV.
>
> Are you a complete idiot or just a jerk?
>
> It only take 7 key strokes. If you can play a piano, I would suspect
> that you can type out Mark IV.
>
> Mark
>
>