Disklavier

Hi,

the update CDs (any version) don't contain the full operating system, only those bits required to implement the changes for the new version. If a drive crashes (or you have a blank HDD for your Disklavier) it needs to be returned to Yamaha Service to have the full operating system re-installed. The Disks used for this are not available for general circulation, probably due the fact that some parts of the software are not open source. Depending on the inclination of Yamaha in Japan, it might be possible to provide a service in the future where a customer can buy a bigger HDD, send it to their local Yamaha Service agent and have the software installed. Not being a LINUX geek, I don't know if it would be necessary to add extra code to accomodate different drives/partitions.

Bill, if you read this, it might be something to suggest to the technical team in Japan ( or I can ask them in December )

--- In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, Phil Blah wrote:
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> Yeup, I wanted the primary storage to be larger, external devices are clunky and seeky when used with the Disklavier.. Having the main HD larger will keep everything neat plus my 500GB HD boots much faster and quieter ;-) (except for the control-d thing at the moment lol).
>
> So just updating everyone, as expected a fresh formatted HD does not install 'just install'.
>
> I have a service manual and as expected they don't 'reveal' much except the obvious hold down the System Install micro switch after pressing the restart button.... but it won't load from the CD... it only loads from the floppy disk...it displays the usual linux startup, all quite happy, then fails to mound the HD...and load the rest of the install scripts....
>
> So I expect 1 or more of these possibilities,
>
> a) Yamaha have a 'special' fresh install CD or FD.
> b) I need to use version 2 to install then upgrade to version 3
> c) have the disk formatted in linux rather than ntfs (that could be the mounting error I get, but I would of thought the boot script would cope and setup the fresh drive)
> c2) if the floppy disk is looking for 'pre set' partitions then thats annoying...aahh
> d) Force it to boot somehow with the CD rather than the FD that might be designed for existing installs only...
> e) Mount the CD once the FD boots and force the install script to move on....
>
> Hopfully Wonderful Bill :) (wink wink) will email us today when he is talking with the "Big Guys" to let me know what the 'correct procedure' is for a fresh install.
>
> Otherwise I won't be giving up anytime soon...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Philip
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tom Wheeler tnwheeler@.. .
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:08:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] HDD Upgrade MARK 4
>
>
> Glenn,
>
> Thanks for adding one more vote for a large internal HD drive for the Mark IV. The problem cannot be solved by adding an external USB drive. In fact, I did that long ago. Yamaha will not allow you to place Yamaha software of any type on anything but the internal drive. Of course, you are free to put your recordings on the external hard drive, but rarely are those audio CD recordings which are what consume a great amount of space on the internal HD. The only time that Yamaha allows you to place their software on the external USB drive is when you back up the Mark IV to the external USB drive, but there is no way to access the software on the external USB drive that is in the backup and certainly no way to play the backed up material from the USB drive..
>
>; Tom
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2008, at 12:51 PM, Glenn Smutny wrote:
>
> First of all, thank you Phillip for taking the lead in this. This is exactly the type of information that I remain a member of the group looking/waiting for.
>
> As much respect as I have for Bill Brandom and as often as we all know he goes to bat for us, I would believe that he too can only do what Yamaha allows him to do. Thus the black hole. Also I may be way off base with this comment, but isn¢t it interesting that until someone else figured out how to run their Disklavier from a PC, did Yamaha immediately come out with the same feature on the very next upgrade to the software. Maybe we all need a little push sometimes. Don¢t stop looking for the solution to your error problem.
>
> Second, and to Tom¢s point, if there is a lack of known interest in being able to upgrade the HD storage, may I voice my request for a larger drive as well. My drive has but 5 GB left on it and my concern is that if I continue to load to capacity, I know that is when the drive will slow or stop. Plus I would think that Yamaha would ultimately be able to sell more software if the systems had more space.
>
> Third, and forgive my naivety, but could this issue be resolved with an external USB drive. Is it completely possible to add an external 500GB drive and have the Disklavier read from that just as though it were an internal drive? Or is the external drive purely for backup.
>
> Glenn
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> From: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:disklavier@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tom Wheeler
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:18 AM
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] HDD Upgrade MARK 4
>
> Philip,
>
> I am not an IT person so I can't really answer your question. I can,
> however, say that for over two years I have been requesting a larger
> HD than the 80 GB HD on my Mark IV. That is a ridiculously small
> capacity HD by today's standards and with the fact that Yamaha choses
> to store audio on the HD only as .wav files which are huge in size, it
> is quite easy to fill up the 80 GB internal HD as I did two years ago.
>
> I have contacted Bill Brandom, U.S. Disklavier Product Manager,
> several times and expressed an interest in purchasing a larger HD.
> Bill has passed my requests alone to Japan , but, of course, that is
> equivalent to sending the request into a black hole. At this point, I
> hold out no hope that Yamaha will offer a larger HD for the Mark IV.
> Instead, they will come out with a Mark V with a larger HD and charge
> to dollar for it!
>
> I have seen little interest on this forum for a larger HD. Apparently
> few Mark IV owners store significant amounts of Pianosoft Plus Audio
> or Yamaha Smart Piano files (midi piano accompanying CD audio) on
> their internal hard drives.
>
> Tom
>
> On Oct 15, 2008, at 1:47 AM, Phil Blah wrote:
>
> > Hey Guys,
> >
> > If you are not a tech person then please ignore this message ;-)
> >
> > I am sick of the slow and small 80gb death star in the mark4, so I
> > decided to upgrade the hard drive to a 500GB... it boots and has an
> > excellent improvement with seek time as expected plus the obvious
> > extra space to store crap. To save myself the time of a fresh
> > install etc I cloned the drive, but it errors on startup and so I
> > have to do a control-d each time to get past the fsck error.. I also
> > tried a file clone (rather than byte per byte). I also tried a few
> > different (smaller) drives and each time doing more to preserve the
> > exact original partition setup etc.... but the linux OS won't get
> > over the error.
> >
> > I imagine if I installed from scratch it would be ok, i'll do that
> > later tonight when I have time... but I don't really want to set
> > everything up again and copy my songs etc. I am an experienced IT
> > professional but, yes a windows man :p *sorry to those linux guru's*.
> >
> > So my question is firstly, anyone know the root password so I can
> > run fsck manually so it can get over the little error or know how to
> > edit the conf to skip and move on at bootup. Otherwise I will have
> > to keep on pressing control-d every time I turn on the bloody piano
> > lol :p
> >
> > Has anyone else bothered to upgrade their HD? What's been their
> > experience?
> >
> > The other question, does anyone know the secret to get into the
>; > bios, I need to check something out.... I tried lots of things, but
> > I imagine it would be something silly like holding down the spacebar
> > and open the cd tray or something on turn on... who knows.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Philip
> >
> >
> >
> >
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