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Re: Getting PianoSoft Midi Files into Audio Format

2009-01-28 by sjhart110110

Thanks.  I will try it in the next few days.  I think this may help, 
because if I start the converted audio past the starting point, it 
plays fine.  If I start it at the beginning, it doesn't play.  SJ

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Spencer_Lists <lists@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings J,
> 
> i posted the program to the following page of my web site. it is 
close
> to the top of the last group of files. it is set to convert any 
MIDI
> volume messages to 100 if found on channels 1-3(0-2). seems to work
> but feedback would be helpful.
> 
> http://www.spencerserolls.com/Files4Download.html
> 
> Saturday, January 24, 2009, 2:27:03 PM, you wrote:
> > sounds like an excellent help, thanks George.
> 
> >> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> >> From: lists@...
> >> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:42:45 -0800
> >> Subject: Re[2]: [disklavier] Re: Getting PianoSoft Midi Files 
into Audio Format
> >> 
> >> Greetings George,
> >> 
> >> 
> >> If anyone has a need for this, I'll write a little program to 
do it on
> >> a batch basis for those who do not have a sequencer program to 
edit
> >> the files.
> >> 
> >> Friday, January 23, 2009, 5:47:56 PM, you wrote:
> >> > Good morning, everyone.
> >> 
> >> > If the problem is limited to PianoSoft Plus files, I suspect 
that
> >> > you have files in which the piano tracks have a message that 
sets controller 7 (volume) = 0.
> >> 
> >> > The earliest Disklaviers paid no attention to the MIDI message
> >> > controller 7 as far as the piano was concerned. And, those 
early
> >> > Disklaviers did not have a tone generator.
> >> 
> >> > When Yamaha started to develop song files with other MIDI 
tracks,
> >> > they found that if you played the files on an early model 
Disklavier
> >> > with a tone generator attached, all of the MIDI tracks would 
be sent
> >> > to the external tone generator. As a result, you would hear 
the
> >> > piano tracks played twice: once played by the tone generator 
and once played by the piano itself.
> >> 
> >> > So, Yamaha put in the controller 7 = 0 message in the piano 
tracks
> >> > to make sure that the piano tracks were muted on the external 
tone generator.
> >> 
> >> > Of course, this fix was unnecessary on newer Disklaviers, but 
they
> >> > wanted the same files to be compatible with all Disklaviers.
> >> 
> >> > At this point, in the history of the Disklavier, Yamaha 
needed to
> >> > come up with a way to make PianoSoft Plus files play 
correctly on
> >> > all Disklaviers. So, they added a behind-the-scenes feature 
to the
> >> > Mark II and later: these later instruments do respond to 
controller
> >> > 7 data for the piano but they uniquely interpret controller 7 
= 0 as controller 7 = 100.
> >> 
> >> > The end result is that you need to edit these files and set
> >> > controller 7 = 100 for the piano tracks.
> >> 
> >> > Regards,
> >> > PianoBench
> >> 
> >> > www.georgelitterst.com
> >> > www.timewarptech.com
> >> 
> >> > On Jan 23, 2009, at 8:32 PM, sjhart110110 wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > Got the pianosoft solo titles to work. Can't figure out the 
multi 
> >> > channel eseq files. I'm getting closer to having a poor man's 
Mark 
> >> > IV! 
> >> 
> >> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "sjhart110110" 
<sjhart110@> 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for your help. With this utility I get the files over 
to my 
> >> >> hard drive, but when I read them with MIDI2PIANOCD (or using 
the 
> >> >> ESEQ2MID routine), all that plays (after converting to audio 
and 
> >> >> moving to my ipod) is the pedals with no piano sound. Like 
part of 
> >> >> the MIDI channels are missing. I also copied some files that 
are 
> >> >> stored in my memory on my control box to diskette. These are 
> >> >> pianosoft+ (with instruments) and all I hear are the 
instruments 
> >> > and 
> >> >> no piano.... Any other thoughts?
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, ISKI1@ wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Use RootARipper instead of DKVCOPY.
> >> >> > http://www.carolrpt.com/musicsoftware.htm
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > RootARipper
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > The nice thing about this copy utility is that it copies 
files on 
> >> >> floppy disks to your hard drive on XP computers. It saves 
the 
> >> > trouble 
> >> >> of duplicating a copy-protected disk first, then moving the 
files 
> >> > to 
> >> >> a hard drive.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > If they are ESEQ files they will have a .fil extension.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > If not play them with Yampalyer and select convert to midi.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > From: sjhart110110 <sjhart110@>
> >> >> > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> >> >> > Sent: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 5:06 pm
> >> >> > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Getting PianoSoft Midi Files 
into Audio 
> >> >> Format
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > I think I'm running into the issue of how to exactly copy 
these 
> >> >> > disks. For example, I have both 720 formatted diskettes 
and the 
> >> >> > pianosoft titles that I "downloaded" from their store 
(2HD). Even 
> >> >> > the one I copied is having problems. I used the DKVCOPY 
utlity to 
> >> >> > copy a downloaded 2HD diskette onto another 2HD diskette. 
> >> > However, 
> >> >> > most of the files are corrupt and/or won't play, etc. 
Probably 
> >> >> wasn't 
> >> >> > designed for this! What is the process to take Pianosoft 
> >> > diskettes 
> >> >> > and copy it correctly so it can be read by the 
MID2PianoCD? 
> >> >> > Obviously the program can't read them directly because an 
> >> > original 
> >> >> > diskette does not work (can't be viewed). Frustrating, but 
I 
> >> >> > recognize that these technologies are old and based upon 
the 
> >> >> various 
> >> >> > disklaviers over the years. Thanks for any help. 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "mfontana@" <mfontana@> 
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > sjhart wrote:
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > > Made some progress. If I use the DKVCOPY, I can make a 
copy 
> >> > of 
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > > > disk which is then viewable. However, these .FIL files 
> >> > (assume 
> >> >> > they
> >> >> > > > are ESEQ files?) don't work when I run the ESEQ2MID. 
I've 
> >> > copied
> >> >> > > > them from the diskette into a folder on my hard drive. 
When I 
> >> >> try
> >> >> > > > and convert the files, it states that they are not 
ESEQ files.
> >> >> > > > However, if I put the new copy in my piano, it plays 
fine. So,
> >> >> > > > probably need a way to convert these files to midi 
(and then 
> >> > I 
> >> >> can
> >> >> > > > convert to audio).
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > MID2PianoCD supports converting .fil files (ESEQ format) 
> >> > directly 
> >> >> > to 
> >> >> > > encoded audio. You shouldn't need to convert them to 
MIDI 
> >> > format 
> >> >> > first.
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > By the way, on the Advanced settings page, make sure you 
have 
> >> > set 
> >> >> > the 
> >> >> > > source velocity profile to "Disklavier" so that the note 
> >> >> > velocities 
> >> >> > > are left as-is.
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > Let me know if you have any trouble...
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > Mark Fontana
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > = 
> >> 
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